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Posted: 9/22/2017 6:29:35 PM EDT
so my hurricane cleanup gift to me from my wife was the cheap (399.99) pa10 nitride complete gen2 upper with lower build kit (i already have a gen 1 stripped upper and lower from like 2 years ago). anyways i have been pricing out the build and at this price it just seemed to make sense to buy this kit. i like pinned front sights. the main purpose of this rife is to wack deer within 200 yards in alabama.
here are my questions; 1.) will i regret buying this? is it junk, or a decent rifle? 2.) what has accuracy been like (i will buy whatever ammo it requires for accuracy for hunting) for those of you with this upper? (i have a mostly full box of .500 nitro express ammo, so ammo cost is not a shocker. this partial box of .500NE ammo will outlast me, i can guarantee that. i also guarantee .500NE will kill wild hogs in florida). 3.) i am content with standard hand guards so with that in mind what upgrade would make this upper the best it could be? will i need the slr adjustable gas block? |
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Don't OVER think it.
(1) It is a good basic rifle. if you consider the money paid, It is a Smoking Great Deal!... I love my pair and if I could scrape up more money, I'd buy a few more while the pricing is so good. (2) See the Thread - shooter was getting from 1" up to 4" depending on the loads. Obviously good ammo = good groups. (3) I haven't seen the need for an adjustable gas block yet. From what I have heard so far, You could always upgrade to a drop in free float later if needed (Uses DPMS pattern)... |
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my only concern has been the less than good reviews of the pa10.
psa knocked it out of the park with their premium fn barreled ar uppers, but the pa10 stuff is all over the forums with "won't run", "bad chambers", "wrong recoil parts", ect, ect. it is a 20 mile drive in the opposite direction for me to get to the ups hub in case i am in need of a return. people still haven't caught on to the fact that positive reviews are just as helpful as negative reviews. |
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I recently got the 399.00 18" SS upper, and a complete lower. My rifle shoots pretty good with factory Remington 150grn Core Lokts. I haven't tried many other rounds yet, just a few. Over all it shoots best with the Remingtons, with 1.5-2 moa. I'm confident with better ammo using 168grn or better loads it will easily do 1 moa. I did have a few groups with the Remingtons that had 4 rounds less than one moa, but would have a flyer. Sometimes it was me, and sometimes I couldn't tell. So, I won't call my gun a 1 moa gun, YET.
Being a gen 2 I think all the issues that folks were having with the gen 1's have pretty much been resolved. My rifle functions great. I do think it's a touch over gassed, with ejection at 1-2:00, and some solid recoil. It's not unmanageable though. I don't think you can beat PSA's prices on their PA10 or PA15 parts, assemblies, or rifles. And, from my experience they're solid buys, well worth the money. |
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Just to give you an idea of what my rifle does with the Remington ammo. I shot the first group at the bottom, made adjustments, shot another, made adjustments, shot another, and so on. The top right group was the last one. I think The barrel got a bit warm, and I was a bit tired. It was the worst of the bunch. I'm happy with that accuracy at 100yrds with the cheap factory ammo I was using. https://scontent.fhou1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21761550_10210102706192756_6339435543281668922_n.jpg?oh=a918ff4c22509942200381acfa38c231&oe=5A48DB02 View Quote |
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my only concern has been the less than good reviews of the pa10. psa knocked it out of the park with their premium fn barreled ar uppers, but the pa10 stuff is all over the forums with "won't run", "bad chambers", "wrong recoil parts", ect, ect. it is a 20 mile drive in the opposite direction for me to get to the ups hub in case i am in need of a return. people still haven't caught on to the fact that positive reviews are just as helpful as negative reviews. View Quote I have more than one, I've had to adjust the bolt catch and extractors on both. Magazines may be picky. May not chamber some 7.62x51. jmho |
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Can you fix the problems you've read about? I have more than one, I've had to adjust the bolt catch and extractors on both. Magazines may be picky. May not chamber some 7.62x51. jmho View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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my only concern has been the less than good reviews of the pa10. psa knocked it out of the park with their premium fn barreled ar uppers, but the pa10 stuff is all over the forums with "won't run", "bad chambers", "wrong recoil parts", ect, ect. it is a 20 mile drive in the opposite direction for me to get to the ups hub in case i am in need of a return. people still haven't caught on to the fact that positive reviews are just as helpful as negative reviews. I have more than one, I've had to adjust the bolt catch and extractors on both. Magazines may be picky. May not chamber some 7.62x51. jmho what 7.62 mag is the "gold standard"? nato ammo is not a concern on this platform for me. |
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i don't have reamers to fix chambers (if needed as has been some complaints), aside from that i am pretty confident i can make it run. i do live about 4 miles from bruce dow's shop if that will help get it running. was just kinda hoping 10 people would jump in and say "man i love mine, trouble free, great piece, ect." what 7.62 mag is the "gold standard"? nato ammo is not a concern on this platform for me. View Quote I haven't had any chamber problems, I'd feel confident to buy another. For me it was/is less than $500 complete PSA with lifetime warranty and nitride barrel or $770 for a xxxx at xxxxxxx with 3 year warranty and a chromemoly barrel?.....no question, PSA no hesitation.... jmho |
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Pmags are #1, the rest are opinions..... I haven't had any chamber problems, I'd feel confident to buy another. For me it was/is less than $500 complete PSA with lifetime warranty and nitride barrel or $770 for a xxxx at xxxxxxx with 3 year warranty and a chromemoly barrel?.....no question, PSA no hesitation.... jmho View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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i don't have reamers to fix chambers (if needed as has been some complaints), aside from that i am pretty confident i can make it run. i do live about 4 miles from bruce dow's shop if that will help get it running. was just kinda hoping 10 people would jump in and say "man i love mine, trouble free, great piece, ect." what 7.62 mag is the "gold standard"? nato ammo is not a concern on this platform for me. I haven't had any chamber problems, I'd feel confident to buy another. For me it was/is less than $500 complete PSA with lifetime warranty and nitride barrel or $770 for a xxxx at xxxxxxx with 3 year warranty and a chromemoly barrel?.....no question, PSA no hesitation.... jmho i will have under $600 in this when you take into consideration i bought stripped upper and lower before they stopped making parts readily available for them. other than this the cheapest .308 rifle i have handled was a s&w that a buddy of mine (gun shop owner) offered to me new for $999 new. i did not like the basic shape of the receivers and passed. psa gen 1 receivers made me fall in love with the idea of the pa10. they look just like the ar15 just bigger. had i not been an early adapter of psa parts i too could have built a sub $500 pa10. i am still happy price wise though. |
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I see a lot of mag comments about not wanting to lock being fully loaded and bolt forward. I changed my opinion when I found an Armalite manual online and it addresses the issue. Basically dont try to beat a fully loaded mag home, and it suggests to load a mag with the bcg locked back.
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I see a lot of mag comments about not wanting to lock being fully loaded and bolt forward. I changed my opinion when I found an Armalite manual online and it addresses the issue. Basically dont try to beat a fully loaded mag home, and it suggests to load a mag with the bcg locked back. View Quote |
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The 18" nitride that came in my upper did very well. This is with 165 Gameking HPBT. I did replace it with a Faxon 16" pencil for weight savings. I have yet to shoot it. https://s26.postimg.org/abhtvn0i1/20170811_140924.jpg 5 shot https://s26.postimg.org/59ydjqvd5/20170802_190343.jpg View Quote i also want the faxon pencil barrel. what is the over / under bet on a bushnell trs25 red dot living on a 308? i bought a bunch of them on sale awhile back. |
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My review on the PSA PA10 GenII, Nitrated FF barrel, SS FF Barrel , and the upgraded Criterion Barrel added SLR adjustable gas block...etc... all sorts of accuracy results etc..
https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/PA10-Nitrated-18-Gen-2-observations-fixes-Criterion-barrel-results-10-Sept-17-/301-284190/ |
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that's reassuring. thanks. i also want the faxon pencil barrel. what is the over / under bet on a bushnell trs25 red dot living on a 308? i bought a bunch of them on sale awhile back. View Quote |
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that's reassuring. thanks. i also want the faxon pencil barrel. what is the over / under bet on a bushnell trs25 red dot living on a 308? i bought a bunch of them on sale awhile back. View Quote I got my last TRS25 for my sons AR15 from Amazon for a touch over 51.00 on sale. I should have bought more. |
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I don't have PSA complete PA10's, but rather receiver sets that I've built out. LOVE my Gen1 so far, and just finished my Gen2. Both wear Faxon 16" 308 pencil barrels, mil spec RE's with Guntec shorty buffer and spring, PSA EPT's, Tom's Tactical nitride BCG's, Strike Industries King comp (G1), VG6 Gamma (G2), Both use Odin Works 15.5" M-lok, and both use SLR Sentry 7 adjustable gas blocks (best $ ever spent on these things). Both come in at less than 7.3 lbs naked. They're basically "twins" (now the G2 is scoped with 3-9x and the G1 is RDS).
No issues with the G1 yet, and about to find out about the G2 this weekend. I will add that I did need to bevel the inner rear/lower edge of the mag well on the G2 to allow it to properly seat Pmags, Lancers, and IMI's (lower edge was way too squared off and would impede easy seating of mag), but once done, she fits mags like a dream. Although my builds came out WAY more $ than an off the shelf PA-10.... I really love these things. Especially for a "base" to work up. You cant beat them! |
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My review on the PSA PA10 GenII, Nitrated FF barrel, SS FF Barrel , and the upgraded Criterion Barrel added SLR adjustable gas block...etc... all sorts of accuracy results etc.. https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/PA10-Nitrated-18-Gen-2-observations-fixes-Criterion-barrel-results-10-Sept-17-/301-284190/ View Quote |
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It will easily survive. A 308 semi is a joke compared to 12ga slugs in a pump gun. TRS easily survives that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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that's reassuring. thanks. i also want the faxon pencil barrel. what is the over / under bet on a bushnell trs25 red dot living on a 308? i bought a bunch of them on sale awhile back. |
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I'd say good. I put two on AR15's, and love them. I would have put one on my PA10, except it's more of a longer range rifle, and not something I'll be using close range. I like the TRS25 for home defense and close range. With both eye's open the red dot just floats in front of you, and where the dot is the bullet goes. I love it. I got my last TRS25 for my sons AR15 from Amazon for a touch over 51.00 on sale. I should have bought more. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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that's reassuring. thanks. i also want the faxon pencil barrel. what is the over / under bet on a bushnell trs25 red dot living on a 308? i bought a bunch of them on sale awhile back. I got my last TRS25 for my sons AR15 from Amazon for a touch over 51.00 on sale. I should have bought more. |
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I don't have PSA complete PA10's, but rather receiver sets that I've built out. LOVE my Gen1 so far, and just finished my Gen2. Both wear Faxon 16" 308 pencil barrels, mil spec RE's with Guntec shorty buffer and spring, PSA EPT's, Tom's Tactical nitride BCG's, Strike Industries King comp (G1), VG6 Gamma (G2), Both use Odin Works 15.5" M-lok, and both use SLR Sentry 7 adjustable gas blocks (best $ ever spent on these things). Both come in at less than 7.3 lbs naked. They're basically "twins" (now the G2 is scoped with 3-9x and the G1 is RDS). No issues with the G1 yet, and about to find out about the G2 this weekend. I will add that I did need to bevel the inner rear/lower edge of the mag well on the G2 to allow it to properly seat Pmags, Lancers, and IMI's (lower edge was way too squared off and would impede easy seating of mag), but once done, she fits mags like a dream. Although my builds came out WAY more $ than an off the shelf PA-10.... I really love these things. Especially for a "base" to work up. You cant beat them! View Quote |
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Waiting for mine to come in(ordered the stainless 18"). At the price I couldn't resist any longer.
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understand that warranty means they might repair it in a year or more....
PA10 stay the F away from it just like their AK and 1911...run from it. |
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PA10 stay the F away from it just like their AK and 1911...run from it. View Quote |
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My PA10 (Gen1 and Gen2) will disagree with you. They (although built up receiver sets, not their complete rifles) have been flawless for me. I like them so much, I actually sold my Aero M5e1 because I felt it was inferior to my PA-10's. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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PA10 stay the F away from it just like their AK and 1911...run from it. thanks psa so far so good. i have about $700 in this rifle that is 1 complete rifle (mix of gen 1 and gen 2 parts), 1 stripped gen 1 upper receiver, a bushnell trs 25, 2 pmags, a magpul buis. recoil is way less than i expected. i let a 5' tall 90 pound woman shoot it yesterday. she only shoots a savage rascal (22lr), a 22lr browning challenger, and a 10.5" 5.56. she liked it for a couple rounds, but was more interested in shooting her 5.56 as it is sighted in and ready to go. she is very recoil sensitive but i think she didn't like shooting because she could only shoot it into the berm and it is heavy. recoil wise she was ok with it. |
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Got my lower yesterday, ordered with a friend of mine(he ordered the same upper). Everything seems to fit well and moving parts move as well as I can tell checking it out in the house(no friction that shouldn't be there). He shot his to make sure it works, but neither of us have had time to put them on paper yet. I added a carry handle to mine, only .308 handle I could find was an Armalite. Minor mods to both handle and upper were needed(ground a small lug off the bottom of the handle and had to cut another notch in the rail for the front cross-bolt on the handle). Just need touch up the finish where I did that.
Pleasant bonus, our lowers were consecutive numbers. Sure, it's probably likely when ordering multiples direct from the source, but it was still cool to get. |
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i have a gen1 PA10. bought the complete upper(16" ss upper rifle kit w/ nickle bcg) and then the complete lower. ive got around 200 rounds through it with no problems.
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I see a lot of mag comments about not wanting to lock being fully loaded and bolt forward. I changed my opinion when I found an Armalite manual online and it addresses the issue. Basically dont try to beat a fully loaded mag home, and it suggests to load a mag with the bcg locked back. View Quote |
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my lower seems to have been "custom fit" for pmags. they slide in like butter and release just as smooth. no other fire arm i own accepts mags this smoothly (i own 30ish ar platform weapons in various calibers). this is my first large frame. View Quote My first thought was PSA built their PA10 using Pmags....all the other mags I have to change a hair... |
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