PSA,

You killed it at SHOT this year. You have so many exciting projects on the horizon it is not only impossible to ignore you, but it actually makes folks nervous that you will screw it up- that's because we are all extremely hopeful that you will succeed in pulling it off.

Bandwidth is limited in any size organization, and resources will need to be divided between alllll these different projects. I want to urge you that when the time comes to allocate scarce resources... and tough decisions need to be made... cut one of the projects designed to compete with an already-available better-weapon from an OEM-source on price, and THROW IN EXTRA BEHIND THE JAKL.

This is something truly unique and exciting from you guys. It has a lot of potential. If you don't screw it up or "Gen"-it-out, it will be a must have like a CZ Scorpion.

That being said I wanted to separate the JAKL from the $300 generic Glock thread (aren't real Glocks about $400 all over the country?) and get some discussion going separately. Very bad ideas are starting to seep into that thread, as with twist rate, and smart decisions need to be made.

So here are my unsolicited good ideas:

TWIST RATE - should be 1:8 in .300 BLK, and should be 1:7 in 5.56.

GAS SETTINGS - should be un-suppressed, suppressed super, suppressed sub, and OFF. Don't miss out on the opportunity to take advantage of your main-thing-here.

HAND GUARD - Just run it as a monolithic extrusion, complete with the receiver. Don't make a separate plastic hand guard. Separate receiver and hand guard would only make sense if you were going for something modular- and it has been said different receivers for different calibers.

LOWER RECEIVER - I see two designs using pistons, not in need of a buffer, and both using AR-15 lug distance for compatibility. Both are using gap-plate spacer doohickeys to blend it in to the rear. These are the BRN-180 and the JAKL. BRN-180M receiver has the built in 1913 rail. Can you use that? Call them up- they'll even put your name on the side.

THE DOOHICKEY - just have it as an add-on in a drop down for folks who buy the upper and want to mount it to an existing SBR'd lower.

THE STOCK - I dig the triangle folder and I know why you did it. It looks like it was the right length for something with a shorter receiver or closer hinge though. I'd call SBT and see if they can take an inch or two off.

Here are my bad ideas that should be ignored:

MODULARITY - Imagine if it had a MRP-ish barrel change? If you could locate the port in the same spot and size it correctly for each caliber, you could use the same everything-else.

ENHANCED CONTROLS - What else can you guys do to further differentiate the JAKL... maybe drop a Norgon-ish ambi catch, Maritime-ish BHO, and ambi selector in with them? With your buying power, you could do this cheap.

Originally Posted By RDTCU:
What's everyone seeing for ship times?
My lower shipped immediately ~4wks ago but my upper is going on 6 days and hasn't shipped.
Could just be Labor Day...

I ordered a .300 BLK upper and blem complete lower on Aug 23.

Upper was delivered to me on Aug 31.

Lower was delivered to FFL on Sept 1.

I imagine if you order a very popular item it might take longer but this seemed very reasonable to me.

Indeed.  I saw those, and that is what prompted my question.  Even the partial tri-railed handguard you posted looks pretty awesome.

That is interesting, but they really need to take less of the extrusion away and have monolithic rails available at 3, 9, and 12.

Been goofing around with my JAKL a lil bit. I had a few kinks to iron out early on but its running reliably now.

I need to paint the new stock to match.  

Are the black Jakl uppers anodized or Cerakoted?

The black JAKL's are just anodized.

Thanks,

Josiah

Dude that looks excellent.  Have you put any rounds through it yet?

SEXY.

Thanks. Yeah, I have about 200 rounds through it. I had an issue with the gas block when I first bought it but Palmetto fixed it quickly and it's running reliably now. Josiah is the man.

It's been a riot to shoot. Especially suppressed. I SBRd it so I'm anxious to get it out to the range Saturday to run some drills with a real stock.

Thanks, Josiah. Are there plans to offer the full length rail 13.7" Jakl uppers separately, either pinned/welded or with no muzzle device at all? The full length rail 14.5" uppers are offered in both configurations, so I'm hoping the 13.7" will be offered in both configurations, or either one, as well.

Got my tracking number today

I need to get the ASR mount on mine so I can break it in. Still sitting unfired.

Next decision is color.....

Now to figure out a slim light setup
Attached File

We will be offering the 13.7 in the future. I do not have an eta right now.

Thank you,

Josiah

Thanks.

Is it true that anodization is stronger, or at least more protective than cerakote?  I think I want a black JAKL, that I paint over.  Rather than the base be cerakote.

Anything in the 11.5 length?

I have not heard of any 11.5 offerings at this time.

Thanks,

Josiah

Any new JAKL options coming up anytime soon @PalmettoStateArmory ?

Like the 7.62x39???

I can't stand the wait!  Weakness may make me buy a CMMG.

308 jakl..?

Greetings @PalmettoStateArmory,

I disassembled my JAKL upper recently to have the top half of the upper cerakoted.  Is there a spec sheet somewhere with the torque requirements for the small bolts that hold the upper together?  Thanks!

Please send me a PM with your order number and I can get with assembly and engineering to get what you need.

Thanks,

Josiah

Any updates on the 7.62x39?

Can 7.62x39 be reliably run through a standard AR-15 lower? I'm not sure I've really seen that before.

If not, that would probably mean developing an entirely new weapon system. Or at least heavily modifying the JAKL from what it is now.

Not really a big deal since PSA makes the KS47 with an AR lower that takes AK mags...

Setup how I want but need to decide on a color other than black.

Optic looks awfully low compared to the comb.
Is that comfortable for you?

Probably going to up it one riser higher. Still playing with it, have yet to zero.

I've seen a number of folks say that the longer lengths are front heavy, but what about the 10.5"?

I'm sooo close to pulling the trigger...

They're all a little front heavy compared to their standard AR counterparts, especially with lightweight bufferless stocks.
If that bothers you will be pretty subjective.

I love my 10.5 fwiw

More rounds through it this morning. I do believe its my favorite 5.56 rifle now.

Attached File

I can't read through 23 pages.

Is there an offering with a lightweight barrel and lightweight handguard?

I've been asking about that, it seems it "may be available in the future". I imagine they have a metric ass load of barrels to run through before they start offering something else.
For what it's worth, in the AR-15 threads there's a JakL thread and at the very bottom of page 23(?) someone is thinking about offering service to turn down JAKL barrels. They've figured out how to remove the barrels, so maybe we'll get an opportunity to get something lighter.
I've asked PSA several times to offer an ala carte method of ordering rifles, but so far you can only get what they crank out. Great stuff, but being able to specify what you want would be awesome...

Thanks.

I'm really enjoying my 300 BO Jakl. I've been steadily modifying it to the point where I think I have it just where I want it. Your thoughts?

Sweet....

I came here for the same info.  Anything lighter than the gov. profile yet? Interested in a 13.7.

I wrote this a few days ago. Nothing new yet. I just ordered my upper and stock kit this morning...

All,

In the long-term future, they are considering a lighter profile barrel, but nothing right now. I don't have any other details at this time.

Thanks,

Josiah

Any reports on the 16” guns?

This, if anyone has it.

I’m spoiled rotten by YouTube, but a downside to the regular style of review is that every guntuber reviews the first version released within 2 weeks of its release and then abandons the platform.  So we have 15 reviews of the 10.5 pistol version and almost nothing else.

Starting to see more and more Jakls pop up in threads, definitely think Ill be looking for one on Black Friday. Especially an OD green lower

ODG is hot.   Just waiting on my f1 to come back.

ODG all the things.  I got the 10.5" and a griffin GP5 can.  When you pin and weld it, it makes a 16" barrel so no SBR stamp.
And I cracked open a case of ODG pmags for the occasion.
Just waiting for the PSA elves to ship out my lower.

Maybe we can get PSA to do a run of ODG carry handles for us.  :D

Dude that is sick. I’m torn between ODG and Smoke right now.  But that GP5 will be my next can, for certain.  Seems like the highest value can out there, or pretty close.

What mount is that for your PA optic?

Did not know about that can... but now I might go that route rather than SBR. Would save $ in the long run.