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Posted: 9/21/2021 4:54:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is Colt we’re talking about, any one example doesn’t mean anything. If it is important to you then you should buy one you can see first so you know what your getting. If you don’t see it first, consider yourself lucky you got markings on it and there isn’t a bunch of grinder marks or blemishes on it but don’t be disappointed if you don’t. No greater truth has been spoken. I seen Colts with similar serial #s come out of the same pallet stack, one upper had cage code, the other upper had no markings at all. Its a crap shoot buying online, I prefer to buy in person. Hard to do unless you live close to the store. I have bought 14 NIB Colts the past 3 years, all from Clyde Armory in Athens GA, got to see what I was buying as I filled out the 4473, otherwise you have to just pray you get what your hoping for, or turn it down at the FFL and send it back and pray the refund is easy. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 5:05:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No greater truth has been spoken. I seen Colts with similar serial #s come out of the same pallet stack, one upper had cage code, the other upper had no markings at all. Its a crap shoot buying online, I prefer to buy in person. Hard to do unless you live close to the store. I have bought 14 NIB Colts the past 3 years, all from Clyde Armory in Athens GA, got to see what I was buying as I filled out the 4473, otherwise you have to just pray you get what your hoping for, or turn it down at the FFL and send it back and pray the refund is easy. The only thing consistent about Colt is inconsistency, especially now. Yes all parts are made to spec, by them, or someone else, but the proof marks are why people buy Colt. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 5:35:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the heads up and not to derail thread but how are these classified?
This thread was not much help.here |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 5:38:00 PM EDT
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I have a CR prefixed SN lower marked M4 Carbine that I purchased in 2018.
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Posted: 9/21/2021 6:05:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the heads up and not to derail thread but how are these classified? This thread was not much help.here Rifle |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 6:06:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is Colt we’re talking about, any one example doesn’t mean anything. If it is important to you then you should buy one you can see first so you know what your getting. If you don’t see it first, consider yourself lucky you got markings on it and there isn’t a bunch of grinder marks or blemishes on it but don’t be disappointed if you don’t. A ton of these are now popping up on the market (OEMS) at the same time (all released from Colt at the same time?) with CR prefixes and "M4 Carbine" markings... it's not a big deal to me, but I'd say it's fairly safe to say that you will more than likely get that. We've seen runs of Colt rifles end up on the market this same way. Who knows why... receivers or full rifles held in storage for some time, or thrown together with parts from the bin. It's not one example, it's quite a few. Now those on those auctions are gone for the most part since yesterday. Sold through. Other than that, yes, I'd say it's a toss up what you'll get. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 6:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A ton of these are now popping up on the market (OEMS) at the same time (all released from Colt at the same time?) with CR prefixes and "M4 Carbine" markings... it's not a big deal to me, but I'd say it's fairly safe to say that you will more than likely get that. We've seen runs of Colt rifles end up on the market this same way. Who knows why... receivers or full rifles held in storage for some time, or thrown together with parts from the bin. It's not one example, it's quite a few. Now those on those auctions are gone for the most part since yesterday. Sold through. Other than that, yes, I'd say it's a toss up what you'll get. I have seen some 6920-R Troopers come on the market too |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 6:12:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A ton of these are now popping up on the market (OEMS) at the same time (all released from Colt at the same time?) with CR prefixes and "M4 Carbine" markings... it's not a big deal to me, but I'd say it's fairly safe to say that you will more than likely get that. We've seen runs of Colt rifles end up on the market this same way. Who knows why... receivers or full rifles held in storage for some time, or thrown together with parts from the bin. It's not one example, it's quite a few. Now those on those auctions are gone for the most part since yesterday. Sold through. Other than that, yes, I'd say it's a toss up what you'll get. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is Colt we’re talking about, any one example doesn’t mean anything. If it is important to you then you should buy one you can see first so you know what your getting. If you don’t see it first, consider yourself lucky you got markings on it and there isn’t a bunch of grinder marks or blemishes on it but don’t be disappointed if you don’t. A ton of these are now popping up on the market (OEMS) at the same time (all released from Colt at the same time?) with CR prefixes and "M4 Carbine" markings... it's not a big deal to me, but I'd say it's fairly safe to say that you will more than likely get that. We've seen runs of Colt rifles end up on the market this same way. Who knows why... receivers or full rifles held in storage for some time, or thrown together with parts from the bin. It's not one example, it's quite a few. Now those on those auctions are gone for the most part since yesterday. Sold through. Other than that, yes, I'd say it's a toss up what you'll get. As far as getting a “m4 carbine” lower, chances are pretty good to excellent. It originally started as cage code upper, I’m still sticking with its a crap shoot unless you see the exact rifle you are getting first, I don’t care what has shown on on GB. I’ll say the same thing again about the BCG. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 7:28:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have seen some 6920-R Troopers come on the market too Yep, I just bought a Trooper R from Clydes 2 months ago. As of last Saturday 9/18/2021, Clyde had a pallet stack of about 30. The bolt had no proof markings. I swapped it for a new Colt bolt out of another new Colt that did have correct Colt proof marking that I had planned to re home to Cabelas anyway lol. 
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Posted: 9/21/2021 7:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, I just bought a Trooper R from Clydes 2 months ago. As of last Saturday 9/18/2021, Clyde had a pallet stack of about 30. The bolt had no proof markings. I swapped it for a new Colt bolt out of another new Colt that did have correct Colt proof marking that I had planned to re home to Cabelas anyway lol. https://i.imgur.com/9Sx69t0.jpg How much if you don’t mind me asking. I have seen them for $1000 |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 7:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much if you don’t mind me asking. I have seen them for $1000 $1349, OUCH! But I didn't have to pay shipping or transfer fees, so worked out to about $1300.00, I admit thats not a great deal but Im not poor and i wanted it, so I added it to my collection. Then got it home and found it had a bolt with no proof markings. Oh the joy of Colt ownership. I have also since discovered both my Colts that have factory installed Centurion Arms rails, well, .............the rails are crooked. Not buying any more of their rails. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 7:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $1349, OUCH! But I didn't have to pay shipping or transfer fees, so worked out to about $1300.00, I admit thats not a great deal but Im not poor and i wanted it, so I added it to my collection. Then got it home and found it had a bolt with no proof markings. Oh the joy of Colt ownership. I have also since discovered both my Colts that have factory installed Centurion Arms rails, well, .............the rails are crooked. Not buying any more of their rails. I am a dealer, but that was the price on gun broker for general population |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 8:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $1349, OUCH! But I didn't have to pay shipping or transfer fees, so worked out to about $1300.00, I admit thats not a great deal but Im not poor and i wanted it, so I added it to my collection. Then got it home and found it had a bolt with no proof markings. Oh the joy of Colt ownership. I have also since discovered both my Colts that have factory installed Centurion Arms rails, well, .............the rails are crooked. Not buying any more of their rails. Centurion makes fantastic rails. How are they crooked? They have alignment tabs, correct? I don’t mean to derail the thread. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 10:38:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Centurion makes fantastic rails. How are they crooked? They have alignment tabs, correct? I don’t mean to derail the thread. Sending you a PM |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 11:08:01 PM EDT
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I'll call GT tomorrow to see if they have any OEM-1S left. I'm doing an m4 clone with it. Already have the RAS. If they're out of stock I'm probably going to go with the OEM-2 from Arms Unlimited and sell that upper and keep the lower. Mind you I have a complete colt le6920 cage coded upper sitting around so I really just need the lower. Unless I can find a colt m4 lower somewhere in the EE. I'm kind of stuck on what I need to do.
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Posted: 9/21/2021 11:40:24 PM EDT
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Upper I got from brownells last week.
   
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Posted: 9/22/2021 2:26:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a CR prefixed SN lower marked M4 Carbine that I purchased in 2018. Sometime in the Fall of 2017 the switch was complete to CR prefixed serial numbers. I’ve been trying to find an LE EPR, which was released in the Summer of 2017, with an LE prefixed serial number. |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 8:46:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AU said these are CR serial prefix, I am a tad late to cancel from AU unfortunately. Then that is deceiving because the AD’s show LE6920, not CR6920. Glad I didn’t order one. I was about to but something told me to hold off. |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 9:01:58 AM EDT
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Colt started marking all their receivers "CR" and dropping the LE.
There is no difference to them now. They send the same to LE or to the public now. No difference. |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 9:57:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometime in the Fall of 2017 the switch was complete to CR prefixed serial numbers. I’ve been trying to find an LE EPR, which was released in the Summer of 2017, with an LE prefixed serial number. This is correct from what I remember. It also took a while for some dealers to work through there old stock so LE prefixes we’re still showing up for quite a while. Remember, this time frame the market was completely saturated and dealers were having a hard time practically giving Colts away so there was quite a bit of old stock sitting. The Brownells “spares” lowers were showing up with either CR or LE prefixes. They were mostly CR though. |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 9:59:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Since when did OEMs come with cr prefixes?
Eta: nvm. Had to catch up with all the comments. I thought oems were discontinued before that happened |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 10:02:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then that is deceiving because the AD’s show LE6920, not CR6920. Glad I didn’t order one. I was about to but something told me to hold off. Normal AU. Their pictures suck, they would be better off not posting pictures most of the time. To add more confusion the old 6920 was the LE6920, it had the LE prefix but also later had the CR while still being the LE6920. The new CR6920 is the “carbine” lower version. It has the CR prefix for now but could possibly change sometime in the future. Some people can’t quite figure this out, and makes it worse for ones that don’t really follow what Colt is doing. |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 1:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. I cancelled my order from AU late yesterday and ordered from GT and must have done it just in the nick of time. Figured Id save on the price difference and then I wouldn't need to spend another $200+ on a rail as I have a few Colt carbine handguards in the parts box. One thing im crossing my fingers for is that the cage code on the uppers are lasered and not the dot printed type. Just aesthetically better IMO. Did they charge you 15% restocking fee? We're your order still in the "processing" state when you cancelled? |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 1:47:38 PM EDT
[#24]
^ no fee. It was still in the processing stage.
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Posted: 9/22/2021 5:01:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Lucky you, I saw the other ad too late and mine was already at “shipped” yet all that’s been done is printed label since Monday.
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Posted: 9/22/2021 5:11:35 PM EDT
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My orders are set to arrive Fri & Sat. Ordered Mon & Tues....impressed with GT Distributors.
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Posted: 9/22/2021 8:49:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My orders are set to arrive Fri & Sat. Ordered Mon & Tues....impressed with GT Distributors. 
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Posted: 9/22/2021 11:42:11 PM EDT
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I am set to get a few OEM 1 from GT tomorrow and a few from AU. The AU ones haven’t even shipped
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Posted: 9/22/2021 11:57:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am set to get a few OEM 1 from GT tomorrow and a few from AU. The AU ones haven’t even shipped Thats awesome, I like your style, and taste lol . |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 11:58:33 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My orders are set to arrive Fri & Sat. Ordered Mon & Tues....impressed with GT Distributors. Pics when they arive please. TIA! |
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Posted: 9/23/2021 10:31:02 AM EDT
[#31]
My AU rifle hasn't shipped either even though they sent tracking, I asked and they said they are behind and apologized. I am not in a hurry so its cool. I will compare mine as well and see if they are the same, I got shipping info for the GT one yesterday.
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Posted: 9/23/2021 3:09:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Just picked up mine from GT. I’ll get some better pics when I’m not in the parking lot of the gun store.
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Posted: 9/23/2021 3:14:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just picked up mine from GT. I’ll get some better pics when I’m not in the parking lot of the gun store.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/366627/8FAF0985-0532-4A8F-9EF2-81B8B942B1E6_jpe-2101979.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/366627/2C7B1391-0DD1-4511-8DFA-4A1EA6EB9FFE_jpe-2101978.JPG Awesome, if mine is like that I will be happy |
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Posted: 9/23/2021 3:48:14 PM EDT
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Liking the cage code font on that upper....no dot matrix stuff. Fingers crossed for mine. Nice deep logo marks as well. Good for you man. Let us know if you got anything on the BCG.
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Posted: 9/23/2021 4:03:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just picked up mine from GT. I’ll get some better pics when I’m not in the parking lot of the gun store.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/366627/8FAF0985-0532-4A8F-9EF2-81B8B942B1E6_jpe-2101979.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/366627/2C7B1391-0DD1-4511-8DFA-4A1EA6EB9FFE_jpe-2101978.JPG Is the carrier and or bolt marked |
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Posted: 9/23/2021 9:25:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Few more pics. The bolt carrier is C marked and the bolt is marked MPC. Charging handle has no markings and the selector has no markings also.
 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileThe finish is actually really nice. The upper and lower are probably the best fitting AR that I own. |
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Posted: 9/23/2021 9:40:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Thanks for posting that, can't wait for mine
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Posted: 9/23/2021 10:11:19 PM EDT
[#38]
Now I really can’t wait for mine. Now if only AU would actually hand off the package to the actual shippers…
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Posted: 9/24/2021 3:03:21 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I really can’t wait for mine. Now if only AU would actually hand off the package to the actual shippers… Yup! I’m in the same boat! Ordered mine on fri/sat, got my “shipped” email on Monday morning, and as of now - still nothing! They are only open tomorrow from 9am to 1pm and closed for the weekend. Patience is NOT my strong suit |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 8:16:38 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I really can’t wait for mine. Now if only AU would actually hand off the package to the actual shippers… I am starting to think AU never had these in their possession. I am in same boat. A week and no movement on shipping |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 9:21:41 AM EDT
[#41]
I know AU catches a lot of hate here but they have always shipped quick for me. Even if it was a FFL item. Do they have your guys FFL info?
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Posted: 9/24/2021 10:00:54 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know AU catches a lot of hate here but they have always shipped quick for me. Even if it was a FFL item. Do they have your guys FFL info? They have my FFL. I am an FFL and have a dealer account with them |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 10:40:12 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am starting to think AU never had these in their possession. You'd be correct. |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 10:51:45 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd be correct. I am going to call them at 0900 my time In their defense, I did get the nicest Colt 6921 uppers I have ever seen from them at a killer deal and had it two days from when I ordered it. I have also purchased suppressors from them no issues. |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 11:06:03 AM EDT
[#45]
My tracking number has been in "label created" status also, where my GTD order is arriving today. Take that for what it's worth.
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Posted: 9/24/2021 11:08:33 AM EDT
[#46]
My only issue with AU in the past is they put out a killer deal occasionally and my wife gives me the raised eyebrow from across the room.
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Posted: 9/24/2021 11:27:02 AM EDT
[#47]
This whole thing has been a cluster fuck of poor choices on my part...
I ordered from AU Last Friday when I got their e-mail about these. Saw this thread on Monday with the GT's price and was like well shit but I already received my shipping notice from AU so I figured it wasn't worth the hassle of a return with AU/order from GT but I should have because... I contacted AU yesterday to ask why my tracking# still showed "label created"? Turns out AU doesn't even have these rifles in stock yet. They stated they were expecting their order on Monday but its been delayed. I'm currently waiting on a response as to when they expect to get them? I decide at that point to cancel that order and order from GT instead but luckily I called GT before canceling my AU order because GT is out of both OEM1 and 2's for online/shipping orders and are not taking backorders. I swear sometimes that if it is wasn't for bad luck I'd have none at all  Hopefully AU will come through eventually?  I'm going to be royally pissed off if they don't!ETA: AU just e-mailed me back and said "It looks like your order should be going out today." Not confidence inspiring but hopeful |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 11:31:08 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This whole thing has been a cluster fuck of poor choices on my part... I ordered from AU Last Friday when I got their e-mail about these. Saw this thread on Monday with the GT's price and was like well shit but I already received my shipping notice from AU so I figured it wasn't worth the hassle of a return with AU/order from GT but I should have because... I contacted AU yesterday to ask why my tracking# still showed "label created"? Turns out AU doesn't even have these rifles in stock yet. They stated they were expecting their order on Monday but its been delayed. I'm currently waiting on a response as to when they expect to get them? I decide at that point to cancel that order and order from GT instead but luckily I called GT before canceling my AU order because GT is out of both OEM1 and 2's for online/shipping orders and are not taking backorders. I swear sometimes that if it is wasn't for bad luck I'd have none at all Hopefully AU will come through eventually? I'm going to be royally pissed off if they don't!I am pretty sure, unless they clearly state that they are expecting them and these are pre-orders, that is fraud. They charged my card immediately |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 11:36:11 AM EDT
[#49]
Their ad said "in stock"! Not pre-order!
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Posted: 9/24/2021 11:48:53 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am pretty sure, unless they clearly state that they are expecting them and these are pre-orders, that is fraud. They charged my card immediately I hear ya and agree (my card was charged immediately too). It also gets me that they won't answer their phone either. Just a message that says to e-mail them  I'm not happy but I'm not fully pissed off yet. Its BS but I'm willing to give them a reasonable amount of time to deliver what they took my money for. |
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