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Posted: 3/4/2010 10:09:03 PM EDT
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there was a guy on Sturm that had some a few weeks backb ut he was asking $1k for them...i bought the complete 6933 from Spiwak for $1225 delrvd
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Posted: 3/5/2010 9:55:27 AM EDT
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Anyone else carrying them besides jb arms or david spiwak? whats wrong with buying from one of them? just courious as jb arms is good to go. he told me he went in on these with dave so they are the same uppers and some appear to be brand new. good luck with your search. |
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Posted: 3/5/2010 12:31:23 PM EDT
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Anyone else carrying them besides jb arms or david spiwak? whats wrong with buying from one of them? just courious as jb arms is good to go. he told me he went in on these with dave so they are the same uppers and some appear to be brand new. good luck with your search. I got an email from him that there all made by colt in canada. Im not sure what the difference is as I have no experience with anything colt from canada. |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 4:07:57 AM EDT
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Anyone else carrying them besides jb arms or david spiwak? whats wrong with buying from one of them? just courious as jb arms is good to go. he told me he went in on these with dave so they are the same uppers and some appear to be brand new. good luck with your search. I got an email from him that there all made by colt in canada. Im not sure what the difference is as I have no experience with anything colt from canada. 
Illegal to import.... |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 5:37:09 AM EDT
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Anyone else carrying them besides jb arms or david spiwak? whats wrong with buying from one of them? just courious as jb arms is good to go. he told me he went in on these with dave so they are the same uppers and some appear to be brand new. good luck with your search. I got an email from him that there all made by colt in canada. Im not sure what the difference is as I have no experience with anything colt from canada.
Illegal to import.... dont know if you are correct sir. from what i was told it was illegal for them to sell them as sbrs so they split them in half and were selling the uppers. i dont know what happened to the lowers but i was told they were not sbr lowers anymore. i dont see why they would lie and say they were from canada as i dont think it would add any value to them. |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 7:32:06 AM EDT
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IF the are from Canada––If they were originally sold to Police Departments then the PD traded them in, would they still be illegal for us to own. OR is it illegal to have them imported, no matter what, from Canada? The benefit being the CHF barrel,,,, |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 10:51:56 AM EDT
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All-Colt Canadian-built
In a message dated 3/4/2010 9:35:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Are these uppers 100% colt? Also are they colt usa or the deimco colt canada? Thanks, Alfred |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 10:53:14 AM EDT
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That was my exact email to him and his reply. So I guess his complete 6933's are canadian to?
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Posted: 3/6/2010 12:24:12 PM EDT
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I you really believe you have a Canadian Colt, you'll believe anything...
If it is an imported rifle, it has to be marked by the importer, period. Colt Canada has nothing to do with Colt Defense. Keep buying those "Canadian" Colts... 
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Posted: 3/6/2010 12:52:04 PM EDT
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I you really believe you have a Canadian Colt, you'll believe anything... If it is an imported rifle, it has to be marked by the importer, period. Colt Canada has nothing to do with Colt Defense. Keep buying those "Canadian" Colts... I havent bought anything yet. I was just posting a question. Cause when I saved the pictures of the upper he had for sale and tried to magnify em the marks looked strange. So colt canada and colt usa are two different companies I take it from your post? |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 1:54:11 PM EDT
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Two completely separate companies. Whoever is claiming they have "Colt Canada" rifles for sale is a big fat liar! A few small hurdles stand in their way, NFA, ITAR and the GCA.
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Posted: 3/6/2010 2:39:13 PM EDT
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So Im guessing jb arms and spiwak there complete 6933's are american colts and as stated there uppers are a colt canadian company unrelated to american colt.
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Posted: 3/6/2010 2:40:38 PM EDT
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Looks like the only thing sensable is to buy a colt 6920 and chop it to the length I want. Since specilized arment thinks stripped uppers should be worth more than complete guns.
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Posted: 3/6/2010 3:37:07 PM EDT
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Specialized Armament doesn't even sell 6933's. The LE6933 is is a funky design. You can't suppress it because the gas port is to large.You might as well go 10.3 if you are going to pay for a tax stamp. Buy a 6920 and have SA cut the barrel down for you.
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Posted: 3/6/2010 4:49:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Specialized Armament doesn't even sell 6933's. The LE6933 is is a funky design. You can't suppress it because the gas port is to large.You might as well go 10.3 if you are going to pay for a tax stamp. Buy a 6920 and have SA cut the barrel down for you. Thats news to me. I didnt realize the 2000+rds through my 6933 w/ Surefire FA556AR suppressor didnt work  . SAW doesnt have the 6933 because they didnt order them(300 min.) As for Canadain uppers it is my understanding that uppers are ok- The lower cant be made in Canada. I have a few uppers with Diemaco markings
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Posted: 3/6/2010 5:09:57 PM EDT
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Specialized Armament doesn't even sell 6933's. The LE6933 is is a funky design. You can't suppress it because the gas port is to large.You might as well go 10.3 if you are going to pay for a tax stamp. Buy a 6920 and have SA cut the barrel down for you. Thats news to me. I didnt realize the 2000+rds through my 6933 w/ Surefire FA556AR suppressor didnt work . SAW doesnt have the 6933 because they didnt order them(300 min.) As for Canadain uppers it is my understanding that uppers are ok- The lower cant be made in Canada. I have a few uppers with Diemaco markingsYou are beating the shit out of your FCG and lower receiver. Look at the top of your disconnector and tell us about the two areas, one front and one rear, where the finish is worn off because your hammer is coming to an abrupt stop when it hits the disconnector. Its a bad idea to suppress a 6933. |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 5:13:10 PM EDT
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Specialized Armament doesn't even sell 6933's. The LE6933 is is a funky design. You can't suppress it because the gas port is to large.You might as well go 10.3 if you are going to pay for a tax stamp. Buy a 6920 and have SA cut the barrel down for you. Thats news to me. I didnt realize the 2000+rds through my 6933 w/ Surefire FA556AR suppressor didnt work . SAW doesnt have the 6933 because they didnt order them(300 min.) As for Canadain uppers it is my understanding that uppers are ok- The lower cant be made in Canada. I have a few uppers with Diemaco markingsYou are beating the shit out of your FCG and lower receiver. Look at the top of your disconnector and tell us about the two areas, one front and one rear, where the finish is worn off because your hammer is coming to an abrupt stop when it hits the disconnector. Its a bad idea to suppress a 6933. I have heard of no problems from two people running factory ones surpressed. |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 5:30:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Specialized Armament doesn't even sell 6933's. The LE6933 is is a funky design. You can't suppress it because the gas port is to large.You might as well go 10.3 if you are going to pay for a tax stamp. Buy a 6920 and have SA cut the barrel down for you. Thats news to me. I didnt realize the 2000+rds through my 6933 w/ Surefire FA556AR suppressor didnt work . SAW doesnt have the 6933 because they didnt order them(300 min.) As for Canadain uppers it is my understanding that uppers are ok- The lower cant be made in Canada. I have a few uppers with Diemaco markingsYou are beating the shit out of your FCG and lower receiver. Look at the top of your disconnector and tell us about the two areas, one front and one rear, where the finish is worn off because your hammer is coming to an abrupt stop when it hits the disconnector. Its a bad idea to suppress a 6933. News to me. Wish I had ny digital camera handy-all looks good to me junior. Normal wear on a weapn with 4200rds down range. I should add my weapons will wear out thats why I buy multiples and keep spare parts on hand .I might even have a spare surefire can. MY AR's DONT SIT IN A SAFE -THEY ARE TOOLS WHICH I TRAIN WITH |
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Posted: 3/7/2010 6:03:43 AM EDT
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Let's not get cranky while discussing this topic.
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Posted: 3/7/2010 4:36:08 PM EDT
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Moral of the story the uppers are colt canada, and colt usa and colt canada are two completly different companys.
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Posted: 3/8/2010 4:04:32 AM EDT
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I you really believe you have a Canadian Colt, you'll believe anything... If it is an imported rifle, it has to be marked by the importer, period. Colt Canada has nothing to do with Colt Defense. Keep buying those "Canadian" Colts... Welcome to the forum. Sit back and relax and you might learn a thing or two. 
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Posted: 3/8/2010 5:44:47 AM EDT
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I'll just leave this 5 year old article here.........
West Hartford, CT May 20, 2005 – Colt Defense LLC, a designer, developer and manufacturer of small arms for miltary and law enforcement agencies, announced today the completion of its acquisition of the Logistics & Defense Division, Diemaco, from Héroux-Devtek Inc. (TSX: HRX). The Diemaco business will now be operated as Colt Canada Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of Colt.
Colt Canada, based in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada, is a defense contractor that supplies small arms to military and law enforcement agencies. Since 1976, Diemaco has served as Canada’s Small Arms Center for Excellence. Colt Canada continues as Canada’s sole contractor for the manufacture of C7 and C8 rifles and carbines under license from Colt. These weapons are versions of M16 and M4 weapons that use technical data owned by Colt. Weapons manufactured by Colt Canada supply military troops of NATO countries as well as Canadian Forces and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Colt produces the M16 rifle, M4 carbine, M203 grenade launcher and other weapons at its Connecticut-based ISO 9001-2000 factory. The Colt Canada ISO 9001-2000 facility employs 100 workers in a world class manufacturing facility located about one hour west of Toronto. Profiles Colt Defense LLC is a designer, developer and manufacturer of small arms for military and law enforcement agencies. Colt is the owner of technical data packages for the M16 and M4 families of weapons. Colt is a privately held company. Héroux-Devtek Inc., a Canadian company, specializes in the design, development, manufacture and repair of aerospace and industrial products. The Company's head office is located in Longueuil, Québec. Héroux-Devtek operates eight business units grouped under three divisions: the Landing Gear Division, the Aero structure Division, the Gas Turbine Components Division and the Logistics and Defense Division. 75% of the Company's sales are outside Canada, mainly in the United States. Héroux-Devtek’s shares trade on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol HRX.
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Posted: 3/8/2010 7:34:35 AM EDT
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Moral of the story the uppers are colt canada, and colt usa and colt canada are two completly different companys. By "two completely different companys", you mean in the sense that one owns the other and that technical information and resources are shared between the two, right? |
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Posted: 3/8/2010 7:37:13 AM EDT
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I'll just leave this 5 year old article here......... West Hartford, CT May 20, 2005 – Colt Defense LLC, a designer, developer and manufacturer of small arms for miltary and law enforcement agencies, announced today the completion of its acquisition of the Logistics & Defense Division, Diemaco, from Héroux-Devtek Inc. (TSX: HRX). The Diemaco business will now be operated as Colt Canada Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of Colt.
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Now thats an interesting article. I'm just going to leave this completely unrelated picture right here as well. 
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Posted: 3/8/2010 8:28:21 AM EDT
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Moral of the story the uppers are colt canada, and colt usa and colt canada are two completly different companys. By "two completely different companys", you mean in the sense that one owns the other and that technical information and resources are shared between the two, right? IM sorry but I thought thats what people meant. LIke I said I didnt buy anything yet Im just asking questions, but the way I took keep buying canadian colts was like I was asking a stupid question. And they were different companys. I was actually going to ask today why they havent tried to sue them for a coprright infringment like they did bushmaster years ago. |
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Posted: 3/8/2010 1:22:08 PM EDT
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Moral of the story the uppers are colt canada, and colt usa and colt canada are two completly different companys. By "two completely different companys", you mean in the sense that one owns the other and that technical information and resources are shared between the two, right? IM sorry but I thought thats what people meant. LIke I said I didnt buy anything yet Im just asking questions, but the way I took keep buying canadian colts was like I was asking a stupid question. And they were different companys. I was actually going to ask today why they havent tried to sue them for a coprright infringment like they did bushmaster years ago. buy the upper from howard at jb or dave. the uppers from canada are no better or worse then ones made here in the states. so get it done and post some pics. 
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Posted: 3/9/2010 3:55:56 PM EDT
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Man I go away for a long weekend and miss all the fun in the Colt forum!
FWIW, I get most of my NFA uppers from Dennis Todd and I've been happy with every one, especially my 933. 
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Posted: 3/9/2010 4:00:46 PM EDT
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Man I go away for a long weekend and miss all the fun in the Colt forum!
FWIW, I get most of my NFA uppers from Dennis Todd and I've been happy with every one, especially my 933. He have a website? |
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Posted: 3/9/2010 4:08:28 PM EDT
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Man I go away for a long weekend and miss all the fun in the Colt forum!
FWIW, I get most of my NFA uppers from Dennis Todd and I've been happy with every one, especially my 933. He have a website? Not that I'm aware of but you can get a hold of him via email. Last I checked he was on the dealers list here on arfcom so I'll give you his addy - [email protected] He might be a little slow on getting back to you via email, but he is a good guy and has the best prices I've been able to find for new Complete Colt uppers. HTH!
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Posted: 3/9/2010 5:20:29 PM EDT
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Man I go away for a long weekend and miss all the fun in the Colt forum!
FWIW, I get most of my NFA uppers from Dennis Todd and I've been happy with every one, especially my 933. He have a website? not tring to start a crusade against dennis todd but dont waste your time. if you like the idea of someone not getting back to you or making excuses on why it took a month to get back to you, go ahead and deal with him. he comes off pretty arogant and he likes to whisper back and forth with his wife while your tring to deal. do your self a favor and give howard a call at jb arms. i bought my 6933 from him and it was a great experience. he took the time to answer all questions i may have had and usually responded with in the hour after emailing him. he didnt act like i was bothering him because i wasnt spending 20,000$ on a machine gun like some other dealer mentioned here. i would deal with him again(actually been kicking around the idea on one of those colt 9mm sbr kits he has). i wouldnt deal with dennis todd if he had something 200$ cheaper. YMMV. good luck |
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Posted: 3/10/2010 6:01:24 AM EDT
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Moral of the story the uppers are colt canada, and colt usa and colt canada are two completly different companys. By "two completely different companys", you mean in the sense that one owns the other and that technical information and resources are shared between the two, right? IM sorry but I thought thats what people meant. LIke I said I didnt buy anything yet Im just asking questions, but the way I took keep buying canadian colts was like I was asking a stupid question. And they were different companys. I was actually going to ask today why they havent tried to sue them for a coprright infringment like they did bushmaster years ago. No appologies necessary, we're all here to learn and share information! The LE weapons \ parts that are made in Colt Canada are made to the exact same specifications as the Colt Defense products. The only difference is you have to lube them with Maple Syrup. |
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Posted: 3/11/2010 7:58:38 AM EDT
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Moral of the story the uppers are colt canada, and colt usa and colt canada are two completly different companys. By "two completely different companys", you mean in the sense that one owns the other and that technical information and resources are shared between the two, right? IM sorry but I thought thats what people meant. LIke I said I didnt buy anything yet Im just asking questions, but the way I took keep buying canadian colts was like I was asking a stupid question. And they were different companys. I was actually going to ask today why they havent tried to sue them for a coprright infringment like they did bushmaster years ago. No appologies necessary, we're all here to learn and share information! The LE weapons \ parts that are made in Colt Canada are made to the exact same specifications as the Colt Defense products. The only difference is you have to lube them with Maple Syrup. haha |
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