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Posted: 12/5/2013 9:31:46 AM EDT
Yesterday, after 471 days of patiently waiting for my 7.62 OBR 16" , my LGS called and said it had arrived. I had high expectations for fit and finish, but still had some wonderment about "accuracy". My weapon's platform came with the new barrel; I assume, due to the fact that there was no field grade markings or return coupon, and a shinny test fire target was in the box! Based on the numbers, I think Mark LaRue has honed it into a place that is desirable for both him as a manufacturer and the public as demanding customers. What do you think????
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Wow!! That's impressive...My 18" variant of the same rifle should be showing up next week (It'll be about 400 days from order to delivery). If I get something that pretty I'll probably frame it.
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Damn nice! And I thought the .6" target I got with my 18" 7.62 was tiny hahah
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Yes one more than the number of posts you have. My bolt gun does nothing but sit in the safe since purchasing my OBR. Perhaps buy one and shoot all the five shot groups you want and see for yourself how accurate they are. Just saying!
Here is a link to a different brand new OBR owner with some additional groups. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/242988_OBR_16_7_62_arrived_and_i_am_SATISFIED_.html |
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Yesterday, after 471 days of patiently waiting for my 7.62 OBR 16" , my LGS called and said it had arrived. I had high expectations for fit and finish, but still had some wonderment about "accuracy". My weapon's platform came with the new barrel; I assume, due to the fact that there was no field grade markings or return coupon, and a shinny test fire target was in the box! Based on the numbers, I think Mark LaRue has honed it into a place that is desirable for both him as a manufacturer and the public as demanding customers. What do you think???? http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q768/JHJ503/photo1_zpsf45cf21f.jpg View Quote giggity |
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3 shot groups...really. What happened to 5 shot group? Guess the standards have gone down... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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3 shot group for OBR? Yes you would really be dissappointed with a 3 shot group at .251 with factory ammo out of all of your rifles. So any rifles you own that group worse than that, and arent up to your standards, just send them to me. Maybe Im in the wrong business but to me its the first round that really matters. Im sure your smart enough to chronograph factory ammo and see the variances. Then add weather wind etc etc etc. Maybe we can all just be nice enough to tell the OP congrats as he was fortunate enough to pick up a great albeit only 3 shot grouping rifle. Hopefully he will be nice enought to post some five shot groups. |
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That F'ing outstanding!! I bought my 18" OBR slightly used and not too long after I took it out for the first time did my Rem700 go up for sale. Looks like you definitely have a keeper.
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Can I send my unfired (Outside of LT) LW-50 from my tAR back in for an actual LT barrel?
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I wonder when those of us who have the field grade barrels can expect to get our match grade barrels??????/
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Does the voucher have any instructions regarding how to procure your mg barrel? Process wise?
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Does the voucher have any instructions regarding how to procure your mg barrel? Process wise? View Quote I think the whole deal was that we are going to be contacted to send them back. I think as someone stated earlier, they're finishing the balance before going back to FG replacements. Probably at least a chunk of them I'm guessing. |
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Quoted: Yes you would really be dissappointed with a 3 shot group at .251 with factory ammo out of all of your rifles. So any rifles you own that group worse than that, and arent up to your standards, just send them to me. Maybe Im in the wrong business but to me its the first round that really matters. Im sure your smart enough to chronograph factory ammo and see the variances. Then add weather wind etc etc etc. Maybe we can all just be nice enough to tell the OP congrats as he was fortunate enough to pick up a great albeit only 3 shot grouping rifle. Hopefully he will be nice enought to post some five shot groups. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3 shot group for OBR? Yes you would really be dissappointed with a 3 shot group at .251 with factory ammo out of all of your rifles. So any rifles you own that group worse than that, and arent up to your standards, just send them to me. Maybe Im in the wrong business but to me its the first round that really matters. Im sure your smart enough to chronograph factory ammo and see the variances. Then add weather wind etc etc etc. Maybe we can all just be nice enough to tell the OP congrats as he was fortunate enough to pick up a great albeit only 3 shot grouping rifle. Hopefully he will be nice enought to post some five shot groups. Ask yourself this...why would you go from a five shot group to a three shot group...BECAUSE ITS EASIER! |
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This ^ has been admitted, explained , and discussed quite awhile ago. Before the new barrel making venture.
This really shouldn't suprise anyone. |
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[span style='font-weight: bold;']We started shooting 3-shot groups when ammo got scarce ... [/span] View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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<snip> Not to say the barrels shoot to a lesser degree, just the testing has gotten lazy.[/span] Ask yourself this...why would you go from a five shot group to a three shot group...[span style='color: purple;'][span style='font-weight: bold;']BECAUSE ITS EASIER![/span][/span] [span style='font-weight: bold;']We started shooting 3-shot groups when ammo got scarce ... [/span] I'll take my rifle with a ZERO shot group… I pay for my rifle's before I get them, not after…So basically, I know what I'm getting before I purchase, otherwise I wouldn't purchase. |
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I guess it's really moot since they guarantee under 1 moa... View Quote Yes they do and they make a great rifle. I do completely agree with you that yes it is easier to shoot the three shot group. It also is a lot cheaper at todays ammo prices and nets the company more profit each gun. The best read Ive seen in a while on this forum is when Larue had Mr Nevada to the shop and taught him how to shoot his rifle. Which kind of comes back to my original point there are so many variables. 3 round group / 5 round group / 10 round group whichever. Either the gun can shoot or it can't. Larue makes a rifle that can shoot, so do other companies. Also, the swag isn't free its built into the purchase price of your rifle. It is a nice touch and makes customers happy. So is proper and professional comunication of a companies operating policies and procedures. There was a great announcement on the field grade barrel release. Why not announce they now have developed the match grade barrels and that through extensive testing are shooting some really damm fine groups! Maybe put some you tube video up on the manufacturing process or testing process for each and every gun they make. You know they back up their product and fix it if it isnt right. My other point is you know everyone was saying damm that is a sweet test target. I wish that was my gun! Congrats to the OP on a fine purchase, hope it shoots well for you. |
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3 shot groups...really. What happened to 5 shot group? Guess the standards have gone down... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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3 shot group for OBR? One thing that I have noticed in the Larue forum is that the people who do the most complaining/trolling don't ever own the things that they are complaining about and when they claim to own them they never post proof. |
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One thing that I have noticed in the Larue forum is that the people who do the most complaining/trolling don't ever own the things that they are complaining about and when they claim to own them they never post proof. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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3 shot group for OBR? One thing that I have noticed in the Larue forum is that the people who do the most complaining/trolling don't ever own the things that they are complaining about and when they claim to own them they never post proof. And I've noticed the most vocal defenders are overly emotionally involved with the product and unable to be objective in even the smallest way. |
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Toxie, don't make me go back and dig up your posts of past observations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And I've noticed the most vocal defenders are overly emotionally involved with the product and unable to be objective in even the smallest way. Toxie, don't make me go back and dig up your posts of past observations. Hey, we all have some sweet hum-dingers out there bud. Don't act like you're a saint lol. |
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Yesterday, after 471 days of patiently waiting for my 7.62 OBR 16" , my LGS called and said it had arrived. I had high expectations for fit and finish, but still had some wonderment about "accuracy". My weapon's platform came with the new barrel; I assume, due to the fact that there was no field grade markings or return coupon, and a shinny test fire target was in the box! Based on the numbers, I think Mark LaRue has honed it into a place that is desirable for both him as a manufacturer and the public as demanding customers. What do you think???? http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q768/JHJ503/photo1_zpsf45cf21f.jpg View Quote Was I supposed to get a return coupon with my field grade barrel? I may have to recheck the box. |
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Quoted: And I've noticed the most vocal defenders are overly emotionally involved with the product and unable to be objective in even the smallest way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3 shot group for OBR? One thing that I have noticed in the Larue forum is that the people who do the most complaining/trolling don't ever own the things that they are complaining about and when they claim to own them they never post proof. And I've noticed the most vocal defenders are overly emotionally involved with the product and unable to be objective in even the smallest way. In my experience the reason people get overly emotionally involved with anything is because what ever that "thing" is has given them satisfaction and happiness. Typically due to outstanding performance and exceeded expectations. You could say this about guns, cars women....there is a reason for people to act this way. IMO Larue makes arguably some of the finest weapons and equipment available. Sure there are other mfgs that make comparable items. I am a fan because their equipment is exceptional. I'm sure you have equipment you prefer and because of a reason. As far as giving reports that are not accurate because of bias.....Why The fuck would you give positive report on something you spend $$$$ on that did not perform? That's what baffles me about Larue haters. Do you honestly think people praise a product that is not fantastic? Below are links to legitimate shooting reports. It is entirely possible that you can show the level of accuracy exibited below from your weapon mfg. Im am also that if you can, that is the reason you purchase that mfg products. The same reason I and many others purchase Larue products. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/243007_1370_yards_with_Larue_OBR.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/243006_PredatOBR_Field_Grade_range_report.html |
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I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found...
http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. |
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3 shot group for OBR? Maybe its the supply of ammo! I don't think FGMM grows on trees in Texas Larue you keep doing what your doing! |
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Quoted: I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found... http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. View Quote j
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I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found... http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. View Quote I'm pretty sure your rifle is much more accurate than the test target displays. Basically, the test target is given just to back the sub MOA guarantee. They didn't take your rifle out for a full day of shooting and this was the best group…someone is simply paid to load three shots, fire three shots, pull the test target and sign it, then its off to the next one in line. Enjoy your rifle... |
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Not too concerned about it... just need a few other things to come in from backorder and I will be ready for some serious range time!
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Not too concerned about it... just need a few other things to come in from backorder and I will be ready for some serious range time! View Quote Dang dude!! You blew your one post a year average with this one!! Now since you are in Colorado, won't you have to do a mag change to do a 5-shot group?? |
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I'm pretty sure your rifle is much more accurate than the test target displays. Basically, the test target is given just to back the sub MOA guarantee. They didn't take your rifle out for a full day of shooting and this was the best group…someone is simply paid to load three shots, fire three shots, pull the test target and sign it, then its off to the next one in line. Enjoy your rifle... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found... http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. I'm pretty sure your rifle is much more accurate than the test target displays. Basically, the test target is given just to back the sub MOA guarantee. They didn't take your rifle out for a full day of shooting and this was the best group…someone is simply paid to load three shots, fire three shots, pull the test target and sign it, then its off to the next one in line. Enjoy your rifle... This. Our guy is rackin' and stackin', shootin' and scootin'. It's only back there to confirm what we already know - we built a great rifle that we're proud to slap our name on. ETA - But I must add that I am getting a faction of the firm that is against the huge slowdown that shooting in the wormhole throws into the mix. Their argument is that "nobody else in the industry is doing it" ... I haven't validated their argument. |
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This. Our guy is rackin' and stackin', shootin' and scootin'. It's only back there to confirm what we already know - we built a great rifle that we're proud to slap our name on. ETA - But I must add that I am getting a faction of the firm that is against the huge slowdown that shooting in the wormhole throws into the mix. Their argument is that "nobody else in the industry is doing it" ... I haven't validated their argument. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found... http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. I'm pretty sure your rifle is much more accurate than the test target displays. Basically, the test target is given just to back the sub MOA guarantee. They didn't take your rifle out for a full day of shooting and this was the best group…someone is simply paid to load three shots, fire three shots, pull the test target and sign it, then its off to the next one in line. Enjoy your rifle... This. Our guy is rackin' and stackin', shootin' and scootin'. It's only back there to confirm what we already know - we built a great rifle that we're proud to slap our name on. ETA - But I must add that I am getting a faction of the firm that is against the huge slowdown that shooting in the wormhole throws into the mix. Their argument is that "nobody else in the industry is doing it" ... I haven't validated their argument. Mark, I'm sure you could find pleanty of volunteers to come in on the weekend just to shoot test targets. Bottleneck solved. Thank me later. |
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Mark, I'm sure you could find pleanty of volunteers to come in on the weekend just to shoot test targets. Bottleneck solved. Thank me later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found... http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. I'm pretty sure your rifle is much more accurate than the test target displays. Basically, the test target is given just to back the sub MOA guarantee. They didn't take your rifle out for a full day of shooting and this was the best group…someone is simply paid to load three shots, fire three shots, pull the test target and sign it, then its off to the next one in line. Enjoy your rifle... This. Our guy is rackin' and stackin', shootin' and scootin'. It's only back there to confirm what we already know - we built a great rifle that we're proud to slap our name on. ETA - But I must add that I am getting a faction of the firm that is against the huge slowdown that shooting in the wormhole throws into the mix. Their argument is that "nobody else in the industry is doing it" ... I haven't validated their argument. Mark, I'm sure you could find pleanty of volunteers to come in on the weekend just to shoot test targets. Bottleneck solved. Thank me later. I'll take beer as payment. |
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I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found... http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. I'm pretty sure your rifle is much more accurate than the test target displays. Basically, the test target is given just to back the sub MOA guarantee. They didn't take your rifle out for a full day of shooting and this was the best group…someone is simply paid to load three shots, fire three shots, pull the test target and sign it, then its off to the next one in line. Enjoy your rifle... This. Our guy is rackin' and stackin', shootin' and scootin'. It's only back there to confirm what we already know - we built a great rifle that we're proud to slap our name on. ETA - But I must add that I am getting a faction of the firm that is against the huge slowdown that shooting in the wormhole throws into the mix. Their argument is that "nobody else in the industry is doing it" ... I haven't validated their argument. Mark, I'm sure you could find pleanty of volunteers to come in on the weekend just to shoot test targets. Bottleneck solved. Thank me later. I'll take beer as payment. And I'll bring the beer |
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I had a 464 day wait between order and delivery. I just picked up my 16" 7.62 OBR from my LGS and after admiring the sheer sexiness of the OBR, I looked for the test fire sheets and found... http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t593/mr32078/TestFire_zps46583e09.jpg Not quite as spectacular as some of the .5 MOA and better results that I have seen posted on here, but still sub 1 MOA. I'm pretty sure your rifle is much more accurate than the test target displays. Basically, the test target is given just to back the sub MOA guarantee. They didn't take your rifle out for a full day of shooting and this was the best group…someone is simply paid to load three shots, fire three shots, pull the test target and sign it, then its off to the next one in line. Enjoy your rifle... This. Our guy is rackin' and stackin', shootin' and scootin'. It's only back there to confirm what we already know - we built a great rifle that we're proud to slap our name on. ETA - But I must add that I am getting a faction of the firm that is against the huge slowdown that shooting in the wormhole throws into the mix. Their argument is that "nobody else in the industry is doing it" ... I haven't validated their argument. Mark, I'm sure you could find pleanty of volunteers to come in on the weekend just to shoot test targets. Bottleneck solved. Thank me later. I'll take beer as payment. Shoot, then drink. Never reverse that sequence. |
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