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Posted: 2/27/2022 9:49:01 PM EDT
Would like this thread be a discussion of the communications gear that is being utilized and what frequencies and information/codes they are using.
Share pics of what gear you see from all the various photos and videos being circulated. Axis powers (gear & frequencies)  Attached File Attached FileAllied Ukrainian soldier with what seems to be Motorola XPR7350e. An analog/ digital DMR unit.  Attached FileBelow is a image of the PDF showing the frequencies and schedules although this is not set in stone which ones they maybe using at any given time. So far when I have heard "Atonement" speak it was simulcast across multiple frequencies in the list below. The transmissions are all in code with just simple numbers and phonetic alphabet. You may hear some "say again" or "break" or "standby for further traffic" type traffic but mostly callsign and then string of numbers and letters. The 2 main freq to listen to are 8992 USB and 11175 USB.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:07:21 PM EDT
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This is a Pro Russian American (pos) that is spreading the propaganda of the Russians.
He speaks to a separatist at 21:00 mark and you can hear analog transmissions and what sounds like a conversation. No digital / encryption Also appears to be using a abree folding antenna.  Attached File DPR & Russia Military Charging Toward Ukraine Territory In the Volnovakha area |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:26:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: Allied Below is a image of the PDF showing the frequencies and schedules although this is not set in stone which ones they maybe using at any given time. So far when I have heard "Atonement" speak it was simulcast across multiple frequencies in the list below. The transmissions are all in code with just simple numbers and phonetic alphabet. You may hear some "say again" or "break" or "standby for further traffic" type traffic but mostly callsign and then string of numbers and letters. The 2 main freq to listen to are 8992 USB and 11175 USB. TACAMO was active all day today. The signal was strongest for me on 15016. They identified as "Alphabet", I think it was E-6B 164405. They were transmitting on the hour and half-hour. Some messages were repeated during successive broadcasts. Most were 30 characters. Sometimes three 30-character messages were passed. There were a few longer messages. At 1900 EST "Molecule", possibly E-6B 162782 passed a single message and it's been quiet since. 164409 and 162782 are currently airborne. 4724 might be a better option to listen to during the night. Audio added |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:40:17 PM EDT
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Russian Black Sea fleet radio practices as heard in the last 2 weeks.
4649.5kHz When passing full target data they are using is a 6-line format.
Callsigns are as always two or three digit numbers. In our case the main ship coordinating the exercise giving targets etc is 101 while all players in the exercise are TWO digit number callsigns. Razdel - used to indicate next line (short from RU "??????????" ?N "division") For the first two lines inevitably there is some guess work. They are some times referred to as the "signal" and they are most definitely a designation of a pre-determined kind i.e. procedure/type of attack/type of vessel/type munition to be used/rules of engagement etc . Meaning, line one can be 2693 and that corresponds to a Frigate and line two 0300 can indicate you are weapons free. For Lines from 3 to 6 there is NO guess work they are 100% as follows: Line 3 - LATTITUDE Line 4 - LONGITUDE Line 5 - COURSE Line 6 - SPEED Example what they would say AFTER they make sure they hear each other via the Who am I talking to , Who am I , do you read procedure. 11 this is 101 signal 2693 razdel 0300 razdel 44450 razdel 36070 razdel 208 razdel 4, how do you read? Example of the target data you would WRITE DOWN as 11 Line 1 - 2693 Line 2 - 0300 Line 3 - 44450 Line 4 - 36070 Line 5 - 208 Line 6 - 4 6-lines is the full format, they often call out just line 1, meaning a CHANGE that indicates Line TWO is the target TYPE designator and line ONE is the order type/roe etc, they call it you are now signal 2698 how copy |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 10:49:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: TACAMO was active all day today. The signal was strongest for me on 15016. They identified as "Alphabet", I think it was E-6B 164405. They were transmitting on the hour and half-hour. Some messages were repeated during successive broadcasts. Most were 30 characters. Sometimes three 30-character messages were passed. There were a few longer messages. At 1900 EST "Molecule", possibly E-6B 162782 passed a single message and it's been quiet since. 164409 and 162782 are currently airborne. 4724 might be a better option to listen to during the night. Quoted: Russian Black Sea fleet radio practices as heard in the last 2 weeks. 4649.5kHz When passing full target data they are using is a 6-line format. Callsigns are as always two or three digit numbers. In our case the main ship coordinating the exercise giving targets etc is 101 while all players in the exercise are TWO digit number callsigns. Razdel - used to indicate next line (short from RU "??????????" ?N "division") For the first two lines inevitably there is some guess work. They are some times referred to as the "signal" and they are most definitely a designation of a pre-determined kind i.e. procedure/type of attack/type of vessel/type munition to be used/rules of engagement etc . Meaning, line one can be 2693 and that corresponds to a Frigate and line two 0300 can indicate you are weapons free. For Lines from 3 to 6 there is NO guess work they are 100% as follows: Line 3 - LATTITUDE Line 4 - LONGITUDE Line 5 - COURSE Line 6 - SPEED Example what they would say AFTER they make sure they hear each other via the Who am I talking to , Who am I , do you read procedure. 11 this is 101 signal 2693 razdel 0300 razdel 44450 razdel 36070 razdel 208 razdel 4, how do you read? Example of the target data you would WRITE DOWN as 11 Line 1 - 2693 Line 2 - 0300 Line 3 - 44450 Line 4 - 36070 Line 5 - 208 Line 6 - 4 6-lines is the full format, they often call out just line 1, meaning a CHANGE that indicates Line TWO is the target TYPE designator and line ONE is the order type/roe etc, they call it you are now signal 2698 how copy Good Info guys keep it up. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:58:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:09:41 AM EDT
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 Russia is going end up launching an "EMP Surprise" real soon I think. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:44:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54857/download-2207208.jpg Russia is going end up launching an "EMP Surprise" real soon I think. So print this thread out on paper? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 4:28:45 PM EDT
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More Ukraine Moto XPR gear.
Female Fighter with a HT  Attached File Attached Filea Ukrainian BM-21 Rocket truck left abandoned with a XPR mobile.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 5:56:56 PM EDT
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Some SSTV captures from the weekend
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Posted: 2/28/2022 6:43:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Would like this thread be a discussion of the communications gear that is being utilized and what frequencies and information/codes they are using. Share pics of what gear you see from all the various photos and videos being circulated. Axis powers (gear & frequencies) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/D8874D9C-5241-466E-9DD6-7978ACACA6B8_jpe-2295683.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/075EFFB5-B8B5-4E02-B907-003C2A7A0148_jpe-2295684.JPG See, Baofeng is military grade. Allied Ukrainian soldier with what seems to be Motorola XPR7350e. An analog/ digital DMR unit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/9B38A1AF-78AC-4BD2-BE83-96810276AAF3_jpe-2295743.JPG Low band or midband from the antenna size perhaps... does Moto make that in Low or Mid band? Below is a image of the PDF showing the frequencies and schedules although this is not set in stone which ones they maybe using at any given time. So far when I have heard "Atonement" speak it was simulcast across multiple frequencies in the list below. The transmissions are all in code with just simple numbers and phonetic alphabet. You may hear some "say again" or "break" or "standby for further traffic" type traffic but mostly callsign and then string of numbers and letters. The 2 main freq to listen to are 8992 USB and 11175 USB. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/Untitled1_jpg-2290401.JPG |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:53:44 PM EDT
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As was put out on the DMR net, Russian aircraft were heard on 8.131 MHz, not sure which sideband or mode.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:56:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As was put out on the DMR net, Russian aircraft were heard on 8.131 MHz, not sure which sideband or mode. Almost all non-amateur HF SSB is USB. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:10:15 PM EDT
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Currently receiving some very weak comms on 8131. Some sort of stronger signal will 'pop' over top of it.
Didn't last long. 1930 EST- Jamming in the 8030khz range? Even stronger on a Polish web SDR. 5803 range is a German English-language AM broadcast on a US web SDR. Nothing on one in Norway. 5830-5835 range is a Farsi AM broadcast, heard well in Norway. Not so in US. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:49:24 PM EDT
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Been in contact with Ukrainian civil defenders. Things are bad but they are not loosing their city. Lots of losses on both sides. Russian troops are running out of food and fuel. Tank attacks failed. Many civilian apartment buildings were demolished. Lots of disinformation on the internet. Putin bots are working overtime.
Got this info from them: Frequencies Russian troops use: 4950 - Donbass (I assume it's in kilohertz = 4.950 Mhz.) 4380-4880 mid-day 4397 command post 5460-5377 marines 5342 nighttime grouping 7627-7625 and 135.500, 132.300 Belarussian airforce Chechen troops use 5125 frequency. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 2:11:54 AM EDT
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I think Putin thought he could roll over the Ukraine like the Taliban did in Afghanistan. Gross miscalculation of Ukrainian resolve on his part.
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Posted: 3/1/2022 3:20:37 AM EDT
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OST. need to get my SDR hooked up again.
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Posted: 3/1/2022 3:22:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Putin thought he could roll over the Ukraine like the Taliban did in Afghanistan. Gross miscalculation of Ukrainian resolve on his part. Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Putin thought he could roll over the Ukraine like the Taliban did in Afghanistan. Gross miscalculation of Ukrainian resolve on his part. I think he thought it would be like the Soviets rolling into an iron curtain country in the 50s or 60s to reassert control. Quoted: OST. need to get my SDR hooked up again. European web SDRs are better, they're mostly using short range frequencies. I don't understand Russian so it's not very interesting to me. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 3:38:46 AM EDT
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any ID on these radios? They seem to be the first actual military radio I've seen fielded by Russian forces
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Posted: 3/1/2022 7:29:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: any ID on these radios? They seem to be the first actual military radio I've seen fielded by Russian forces https://i.postimg.cc/NF5FDPCp/FMq0j-XJXIAAo8-ZF.jpg The HTs look like the 6th gen Azart R-187P1 (?-187?1 «?????). It's a new digital radio capable of advanced mesh networking (acts as a repeater for other stations, for greater range), GPS location etc. Can be used to access cellular networks. Frequency hopping too. Works on some HF frequencies too. The larger radio looks like one of the R-168 (P-168) variants. It does look a lot like UHF radio R-168-5Un-2E (??? ???????????? ?-168-5??-2?) but not quite the same. It's probably one of the HF models. Both radios are capable of encrypted comms as well as digital encrypted data comms. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:14:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: any ID on these radios? They seem to be the first actual military radio I've seen fielded by Russian forces https://i.postimg.cc/NF5FDPCp/FMq0j-XJXIAAo8-ZF.jpg Wow that’s the first Mil spec gear I have seen the Russians have. And details and where and when the photo was taken? |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 9:17:13 AM EDT
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Snagged it from the Ukraine conflict thread. Allegedly captured outside of Kiev
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:21:41 AM EDT
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 Attached FileAlso noticed this in one video. It looks like some sort of gang charger could be wrong. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 10:27:09 AM EDT
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Stole this from the other thread, thought you’d find it interesting
 Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 12:41:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stole this from the other thread, thought you’d find it interesting https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/355044/EDBDFA4D-3505-457B-B335-DF53DDC956EB_jpe-2297437.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/355044/A0C42FAE-8C88-47CF-A87B-1C0FC1A9DC25_jpe-2297438.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/355044/C0FB9CF7-D050-46DD-B6CB-ADD602D77258_jpe-2297439.JPG Good post. If anyone can grab photos from those tweets showing the “civilian radios” please do. No Twitter here have to have active links to see things. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 12:56:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Slight thread drift but this thread had a couple interesting points.
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Posted: 3/1/2022 1:55:58 PM EDT
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No encryption is a gimmee to the enemy. Encryption is simple, cheap, and effective. You don't even need good encryption. Just Do It.
On the other hand, physics precludes Hollywood/sci-fi responses to individual electronic emanations. Sitting overwatch with a DMR radio is not going to result in some magical, precision strike on your position. Don't be Chatty Cathy, and there's no need to be, and probability of intercept goes way down. And if they do intercept you the geolocation data simply isn't precise enough. But if they think your are important enough to find and kill they will launch a UAV to find you. Thus CCD and mobility are important for the individual radio operator. Contrast this with a large formation that is puking out all kinds of shit. This will be considered important, and they will launch other reconnaissance assets to find said large formation. And yet C3I, or C4I, or whatever buzzword you want to use, has so far proven itself worth the risk of discovery. The trick is to keep that stuff on the down-low to the extent possible, then when your attack goes in to not be shy about bringing your comm's up to max. bandwidth. They know you are there anyway by that point. The OODA loop for COMINT/SIGINT is far, far too slow to keep up with the tempo of an actual attack. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 2:34:36 PM EDT
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My two military grade Baofengs both died a quiet death. One simply failed to turn on and the other lost it transmit power by being left on the seat of my SUV for several months. The portable charging system is interesting and a must. I had felt that portable radios used by partisans would need AA or CR123 cases to be used in extended operations. I guess that is yet to be determined.
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:01:43 PM EDT
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Quote Historymilitary grade Baofengs  |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:48:19 PM EDT
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The IRAU (International Amateur Radio Union) has posted the following note on their website:
“Any radio amateur currently transmitting from Ukraine is risking his or her life. If you hear a Ukrainian station, do not broadcast its callsign, location or frequency — whether on the band, in a cluster or on social media. You may be putting lives at risk.” https://www.iaru-r1.org/2022/note/ |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 8:00:18 PM EDT
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Wonder how active Skyking has been.
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Posted: 3/1/2022 8:33:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2022 12:34:09 AM EDT
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Tag.
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Posted: 3/2/2022 7:51:29 AM EDT
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Buddy sent me this.
First I’ve seen of Russians with actual digital radios in the field. Still not aes encryption tho.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 7:54:42 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buddy sent me this. First I’ve seen of Russians with actual digital radios in the field. Still not aes encryption tho. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/CEF1B293-8E72-47AE-98A5-B6275557ABC6_jpe-2298461.JPG Best they'll get with Gen1 TRBO is RC4, which is admittedly nontrivial for most entities to break. If those are actually 6580s, that's an interesting (and arguably wise) choice. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 8:10:51 AM EDT
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The Russian comms has been awful so far it really does emphasize how important equipment and training are.
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Posted: 3/2/2022 2:20:54 PM EDT
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Radio is clipped to vest, but where does the speaker microphone cable go? Another radio out of sight?
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Posted: 3/2/2022 4:10:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Radio is clipped to vest, but where does the speaker microphone cable go? Another radio out of sight? Assumed he had 2 radios. |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 4:11:26 PM EDT
[#38]
 Attached FileRussian soldier with captured flag. Notice his ear pro. Looks like it may have a mic on the right side (his left) |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 5:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stole this from the other thread, thought you’d find it interesting https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/355044/EDBDFA4D-3505-457B-B335-DF53DDC956EB_jpe-2297437.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/355044/A0C42FAE-8C88-47CF-A87B-1C0FC1A9DC25_jpe-2297438.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/355044/C0FB9CF7-D050-46DD-B6CB-ADD602D77258_jpe-2297439.JPG Here are those as live tweets, many of which have a soundcloud recording of the HF transmission (in Russian). Keep in mind these released recordings are not leaked secret intel from decrypted Russian radio transmissions. The Russians are broadcasting in the clear for any and everyone to pick up. Using encrypted radios must be too difficult to maintain with their current logistics struggles.
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Posted: 3/2/2022 5:19:31 PM EDT
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You just know there’s some poor Russian private that just used his secret decoder ring to decrypt the following orders from Moscow:
D R I N K M O R E O V A L T I N E |
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Posted: 3/2/2022 5:38:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2022 8:59:17 PM EDT
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Common words/phrases
? (ya) - I/I am. e.g: Ya BURAN-30 ????? (priyom) - over/"reception". i.e waiting for response. ????? ????? (?onets svyazi) - out/end of connection ????? (ponyal) - roger/understood ??? (kak) - how? e.g kak ponyal (how did you understand) ?????? (prinyal) - received ????? (Gotov) - Ready ???????? (vypolnyayu) - wilco/completing orders ??? ???????/??????/?????? (kak prinyato/prinyal/ponyal?) - How received?/How understood? |
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Posted: 3/3/2022 12:32:41 AM EDT
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any one able to pick any of this up ?
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Posted: 3/3/2022 3:27:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: any one able to pick any of this up ? Obviously, see the 3rd post from the top. |
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Posted: 3/3/2022 4:47:16 AM EDT
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Ukraine Conflict: Equipment Handbook
This PDF gathers Janes reference data for indigenously developed equipment involved in the Ukraine conflict in a single document. There is a significant overlap in equipment types in common service with Russian and Ukrainian forces, so this document collates the information by domain – Air, Land, C4ISR and Weapons – in line with the Janes reference portfolio. Military Communications pages: 48-54 https://www.janes.com/docs/default-source/ukraine-conflict/equipment-profile_report_280222.pdf?sfvrsn=c51c7182_1 R-187-P1E Azart Radio The R-187-P1E Azart is a multimode tactical team radio with programmable security architecture and provides voice and data communication in VHF/UHF frequency range. In service with Russian Army.  The R-168-5UNE-2 is a Russian VHF frequency-hopping (FH) multichannel manpack radio designed for tactical applications in regiment, battalion, and company networks.  Berkut-M is a Russian high frequency tactical radio equipment operating in 1.5-29.999 MHz frequency range. 
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Posted: 3/3/2022 7:40:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/3/2022 7:42:09 AM EDT
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I kinda want one of those R187s.
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Posted: 3/3/2022 7:54:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I kinda want one of those R187s. X2 Hopefully they will be on eBay cheap soon. |
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Posted: 3/3/2022 11:57:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/D677A9B3-AD66-40BC-B3DE-1BE740B45A4A_jpe-2298852.JPG Russian soldier with captured flag. Notice his ear pro. Looks like it may have a mic on the right side (his left) That antenna looks like a Signal Stick https://signalstuff.com/product/super-elastic-signal-stick-sma-male/ |
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Posted: 3/3/2022 12:40:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That antenna looks like a Signal Stick https://signalstuff.com/product/super-elastic-signal-stick-sma-male/ I have several Signal Sticks, looks way to thick to me. |
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