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Posted: 10/18/2015 5:26:07 PM EDT
Well, Waldo was nice enough to give me two bulbs of garlic so I could try to grow it here where I live. Got about 15 cloves or so out of them, and planted them in the lower end of my garden today. Had the first freeze last night, so I figured time was right. I guess I won't see anything till spring, unless we get some good rain and warm temps. Plan to mulch before snow rolls in with hardwood mulch, as I don't have any straw.
Here goes nothing I guess 
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Posted: 10/19/2015 12:43:30 PM EDT
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I've got 3 types of garlic that I'm putting the ground today. I wanted to get the bases to root a little, so I put them I'm water with a little baking soda (fungi preventative) and let the sun warm them. I'm putting them on deep side (4") just encase this triggers quick growth. I suppose that's it
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Posted: 10/21/2015 10:30:28 PM EDT
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I've got 3 types of garlic that I'm putting the ground today. I wanted to get the bases to root a little, so I put them I'm water with a little baking soda (fungi preventative) and let the sun warm them. I'm putting them on deep side (4") just encase this triggers quick growth. I suppose that's it My understanding is they will root as long as the soil temperature is above freezing. I've actually had chickens dig up bulbs after planting in the fall and can confirm they will root well. If the soil temperature is > 40F, they will send up a stock, maybe even at a lower temperature if it's a hardneck variety. I've always been told to never soak garlic or onion bulbs in water as that has a greater change of promoting disease. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 8:20:11 PM EDT
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My understanding is they will root as long as the soil temperature is above freezing. I've actually had chickens dig up bulbs after planting in the fall and can confirm they will root well. If the soil temperature is > 40F, they will send up a stock, maybe even at a lower temperature if it's a hardneck variety. I've always been told to never soak garlic or onion bulbs in water as that has a greater change of promoting disease. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've got 3 types of garlic that I'm putting the ground today. I wanted to get the bases to root a little, so I put them I'm water with a little baking soda (fungi preventative) and let the sun warm them. I'm putting them on deep side (4") just encase this triggers quick growth. I suppose that's it My understanding is they will root as long as the soil temperature is above freezing. I've actually had chickens dig up bulbs after planting in the fall and can confirm they will root well. If the soil temperature is > 40F, they will send up a stock, maybe even at a lower temperature if it's a hardneck variety. I've always been told to never soak garlic or onion bulbs in water as that has a greater change of promoting disease. I've read the caveats about soaking too much can promote rot. I make sure only base gets wet and they get some sunshine (disinfectant) before burial. I'm hardly an expert on this, we will see how they fair. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 8:51:27 PM EDT
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We are planting about 100 cloves this weekend.
Do you really need hay or can you use grass clippings? |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 11:56:29 AM EDT
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We are planting about 100 cloves this weekend. Do you really need hay or can you use grass clippings? Straw, or hay will have more lignin structure to it, thus more rot resistant, but any can harbor mold/mildew if too damp and lacking air. Grass in a good sunny location, not too thick and well drained should work.....so I think anyway
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Posted: 10/24/2015 12:44:25 PM EDT
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I've read the caveats about soaking too much can promote rot. I make sure only base gets wet and they get some sunshine (disinfectant) before burial. I'm hardly an expert on this, we will see how they fair. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've got 3 types of garlic that I'm putting the ground today. I wanted to get the bases to root a little, so I put them I'm water with a little baking soda (fungi preventative) and let the sun warm them. I'm putting them on deep side (4") just encase this triggers quick growth. I suppose that's it My understanding is they will root as long as the soil temperature is above freezing. I've actually had chickens dig up bulbs after planting in the fall and can confirm they will root well. If the soil temperature is > 40F, they will send up a stock, maybe even at a lower temperature if it's a hardneck variety. I've always been told to never soak garlic or onion bulbs in water as that has a greater change of promoting disease. I've read the caveats about soaking too much can promote rot. I make sure only base gets wet and they get some sunshine (disinfectant) before burial. I'm hardly an expert on this, we will see how they fair. I've done it before with onion plants. You see those bone dry roots and can't help but want to soak them so they hydrate.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 1:50:39 PM EDT
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Just leave it alone.
It will come up in the spring. |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 4:26:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Straw, or hay will have more lignin structure to it, thus more rot resistant, but any can harbor mold/mildew if too damp and lacking air. Grass in a good sunny location, not too thick and well drained should work.....so I think anyway Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are planting about 100 cloves this weekend. Do you really need hay or can you use grass clippings? Straw, or hay will have more lignin structure to it, thus more rot resistant, but any can harbor mold/mildew if too damp and lacking air. Grass in a good sunny location, not too thick and well drained should work.....so I think anyway Is there a garlic for idiots thread somewhere for a complete garlic nube? |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 8:15:20 PM EDT
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We are planting about 100 cloves this weekend. Do you really need hay or can you use grass clippings? Straw, or hay will have more lignin structure to it, thus more rot resistant, but any can harbor mold/mildew if too damp and lacking air. Grass in a good sunny location, not too thick and well drained should work.....so I think anyway
Is there a garlic for idiots thread somewhere for a complete garlic nube? I only have one year behind my belt, but a few here have more experience. I'd say this as good as it gets, let's learn as we go. I already learned a few things. If you choose to soak, peel the husk away. Continuous moisture is bad. So is an alkaline soil. That said, my soaked garlic is substantially further along, the ones I didn't drown anyway. I'm trying a few hardneck varieties they are hardier so long as you have a real winter. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 2:02:41 AM EDT
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The important thing is to start, good work OP.
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Posted: 10/30/2015 11:01:35 PM EDT
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We are planting about 100 cloves this weekend. Do you really need hay or can you use grass clippings? Straw, or hay will have more lignin structure to it, thus more rot resistant, but any can harbor mold/mildew if too damp and lacking air. Grass in a good sunny location, not too thick and well drained should work.....so I think anyway
Is there a garlic for idiots thread somewhere for a complete garlic nube? Maybe the guys in the ongoing garlic thread will do a "do this now newbie idiots!" post. 
I would be interested in that, though the only garlic I have is what I buy for cooking. I haven't ordered any and I figure it's too late. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 11:02:34 PM EDT
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Well, Waldo was nice enough to give me two bulbs of garlic so I could try to grow it here where I live. Got about 15 cloves or so out of them, and planted them in the lower end of my garden today. Had the first freeze last night, so I figured time was right. I guess I won't see anything till spring, unless we get some good rain and warm temps. Plan to mulch before snow rolls in with hardwood mulch, as I don't have any straw. Here goes nothing I guess
This could be a good thread. I hope you keep it up so we can see your progress. Just post here every now and then so it won't archive. 
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Posted: 10/31/2015 8:10:12 PM EDT
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Cut ours in half this year to only 100 cloves, 50 soft neck and 50 hardneck. Got them in the planter box last weekend. I've been using pine needles for cover, no rot and general don't pack too tight.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 3:36:45 PM EDT
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Got a bale of hay for free this morning, so I guess the garilc will be happy. I just wish the local stray cat would quit shitting in my garlic patch
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Posted: 11/6/2015 8:15:32 AM EDT
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I've seen a lot of variation for planting depth suggested. Mulching or lack therefore certainly is a factor as well as your climate. Experienced growers, what is the optimal depth for your patch?
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:19:47 AM EDT
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I've seen a lot of variation for planting depth suggested. Mulching or lack therefore certainly is a factor as well as your climate. Experienced growers, what is the optimal depth for your patch? I plant mine around 3" deep. Any shallower up here and the frost tends to heave them out of the ground over the winter. Aside from it not liking wet feet, it's pretty forgiving. Just see what works best for you. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:08:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got a bale of hay for free this morning, so I guess the garilc will be happy. I just wish the local stray cat would quit shitting in my garlic patch  |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 7:23:45 PM EDT
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Thanks for the laugh. I needed that
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Got a bale of hay for free this morning, so I guess the garilc will be happy. I just wish the local stray cat would quit shitting in my garlic patch
Well it's true, I smooth out the dirt, and I swear to god, next morning it has cat tracks and a pile of humped up dirt like a fucking litter box in it 
Need to work up a miniature claymore for cats 
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Posted: 11/8/2015 6:07:44 PM EDT
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So I was in the grocery store last night and saw a bag of organic whole cloves on sale and I remembered this thread...
Today I cleared out one of my 4x8' raised beds I had tomatoes in, mixed in some fairly composted chick brooder bedding, planted 1/2 the bed with the garlic cloves and mulched with a few inches of old hay. May be a total failure, but at least it inspired me enough to clean out a bed today! |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 8:00:24 PM EDT
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Most of mine have poked up out of the ground, looks like about 100%. I plant the bottom at 2" deep and then put about an inch (after getting wet and settling down) of pine needles on top. They poke right out of the needles and the needles don't rot and compact.
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Posted: 11/12/2015 11:29:54 AM EDT
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Well, put the hay on top of the patch today, I found one clove that some animal had dug up, and it clearly had roots sprouting, just nothing on top yet, which is good, as long as it gets some roots before winter and the freezing hits. I planted that clove back, hopefully it'll do ok.
I put the hay on kinda thick, about 6" once it rains on it and it settles down, and rots some, I may add more. 
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Posted: 11/16/2015 2:34:50 PM EDT
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Finally got all of my Garlic planted. Hope it's not too late. Most was from the garden but I ordered some new varieties to try. I have 6 rows that are 40 feet long
Varieties planted: German Extra Hardy, German Red, Georgian Fire, Russian Red, Oregon Blue and some unknown variety from my neighbor. |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 10:41:19 AM EDT
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We've been having a very warm winter. I planted most of my garlic in late Oct thru mid Nov. Some garlic is 4-6 " tall already. Very likely the cold will come late. Is this too much growth for potentially sub zero temps? Mulch before the onset of cold? Other tips to prevent freeze back?
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Posted: 12/30/2015 8:43:00 PM EDT
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Bump for the question above me wishing for answers from the garlic gods.
I want to know too.
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Posted: 12/31/2015 6:40:14 PM EDT
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Been warm here, but i sure as hell ain't seen any garlic up yet!
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Posted: 12/31/2015 6:52:40 PM EDT
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Mine's coming back up with the warm weather we've had.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 3:10:51 PM EDT
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We've been having a very warm winter. I planted most of my garlic in late Oct thru mid Nov. Some garlic is 4-6 " tall already. Very likely the cold will come late. Is this too much growth for potentially sub zero temps? Mulch before the onset of cold? Other tips to prevent freeze back? One year I planted too early and had some sprout up about 3-4 inches. The tops got a little frost burned and kind of goofy looking, but they grew come spring. I'm not really sure covering the tops with a heavy mulch is really a good thing at that point though. |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 7:45:44 PM EDT
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One year I planted too early and had some sprout up about 3-4 inches. The tops got a little frost burned and kind of goofy looking, but they grew come spring. I'm not really sure covering the tops with a heavy mulch is really a good thing at that point though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We've been having a very warm winter. I planted most of my garlic in late Oct thru mid Nov. Some garlic is 4-6 " tall already. Very likely the cold will come late. Is this too much growth for potentially sub zero temps? Mulch before the onset of cold? Other tips to prevent freeze back? One year I planted too early and had some sprout up about 3-4 inches. The tops got a little frost burned and kind of goofy looking, but they grew come spring. I'm not really sure covering the tops with a heavy mulch is really a good thing at that point though. Was gonna ask the same ("How much winter growth is too much?") question... my test bed as of today: 
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Posted: 1/2/2016 10:53:28 PM EDT
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I plant mine 3-4" deep and haven't ever mulched. What comes up in the fall usually freezes off but it comes back up in the early spring.
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