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I wish I had trees in my back yard. It looks so serene. View Quote but see that blurry part behind the fence? Guy around us bought 26 acres, and where does he site his new house? Yeah. Right there in that blurry spot. Ignored the setbacks everyone in the neighborhood has courteously observed, and built where he will be looking in my back door. Pissed me off, frankly. This building was going to be on the other side of the yard, but once he started building, I decided to move it--and make it tall. So the view from my back deck will be mostly my little "barn" and not the front of his house. Moving the building had some disadvantages. It had been going in the "ugly corner." Now it's in the prettier corner. The ADVANTAGE, though, is that I don't have to lift pump into my gravity fed septic system. I still don't know for sure the septic police would have let me do that. It was making my life really complicated. Now, less complicated. |
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It was. but see that blurry part behind the fence? Guy around us bought 26 acres, and where does he site his new house? Yeah. Right there in that blurry spot. Ignored the setbacks everyone in the neighborhood has courteously observed, and built where he will be looking in my back door. Pissed me off, frankly. This building was going to be on the other side of the yard, but once he started building, I decided to move it--and make it tall. So the view from my back deck will be mostly my little "barn" and not the front of his house. Moving the building had some disadvantages. It had been going in the "ugly corner." Now it's in the prettier corner. The ADVANTAGE, though, is that I don't have to lift pump into my gravity fed septic system. I still don't know for sure the septic police would have let me do that. It was making my life really complicated. Now, less complicated. View Quote |
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Have fun! I have an old chicken coop that needs to be "remodeled" into a 12X25 steel building that I can park a forklift lift inside. It's been too hot to dig holes. Didn't even get my guineas done this year. Maybe next year.
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September 19th, a truck pulled into my driveway. Guys unloaded equipment. Sky looks kind of ominous, don't you think? http://www.fototime.com/B48C6CE737ED62E/standard.jpg Beginning of first pass to move my "grass building" so real building could take shape. http://www.fototime.com/1E8553FC143004B/standard.jpg Ominous sky was not faking it. Guy (Ian) made two passes and the bottom fell out. Got to know Ian, though, as we sat in my car and drank coffee and waited for the storm to pass. Hates cream in his coffee. Has a big heart and a big family, thinks he should be able to raise his kids right, which means spanking them if they need it (he got warned by somebody who saw him smack his little one on the bottom that the government would come and take his kids. He told them, "bring them. They are not telling me I can't teach my kid to do right." ) Great guy. Always joking. If I ever worked construction, I would want to work with him. He and all the guys on the crew (including the owner) want to shoot a Class III weapon. Do you suppose the odds are good that they might get to do that soon? Anyway, it rained. And rained. And... http://www.fototime.com/020CF12B3CD8F55/standard.jpg So I stared at this for a few days while I got an eye twitch wondering whether my septic (which I had dug out by hand --with some help from a local handyman) was going to be deep enough to give me the drop I needed without lifting the sewage. http://www.fototime.com/2236FC88AFCE3E8/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/BD681256B6C3E11/standard.jpg That skid steer is a rental because the company wants foundation guy to buy it. Three different ones have been out here at least, in the past few weeks. Even I could tell that this one was sluggish and struggled a little as compared to a slightly smaller one with the same engine, which was much more agile. I was told I could play with the equipment (running equipment like this has been on my bucket list for my whole life, btw) Me: Nuh-uh. Not without supervision. Them: It's your yard. If you tear it up, it's on YOU. Me: If I kill your machine or break something, you won't like me. I'm all about you liking me. Even more important, you might not work for me any more. Besides, I don't even know where the start button is. View Quote |
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Did you run it on ISO or H pattern ? I for the life of me cant get back into the hang of H after being spoiled with ISO. BTW those SUCK when you throw the tracks out in the mud! View Quote Come down here while it is sitting in my yard. Clearly, you know where the start button is. edited for grammar. @LOW50S |
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They machine DOES become an extension on your mind. You don't think about what lever to do what, you think about how you want it to move and it does. Kind of like moving your arm.
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They machine DOES become an extension on your mind. You don't think about what lever to do what, you think about how you want it to move and it does. Kind of like moving your arm. View Quote I want to find out. I had that same hunch, when I was four years old, about how I would become part of a horse. Years later, it turned out to be true, when I was on a riding team. I think I would be good at these machines. I think maybe I could make chocolate cake for my contractor, and he will teach me to run his machines. |
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Very cool kittys. Thats a good bit of work you did posting up your thread.
Looks like a super fun project. Im sure very stressfull at times. Its going to look great. Cant wait to see the updates. Vino, bath and bed for you now. After the pour it will be plumbing andn foundation next I guess. Great job so far. |
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Very cool kittys. Thats a good bit of work you did posting up your thread. Looks like a super fun project. Im sure very stressfull at times. Its going to look great. Cant wait to see the updates. Vino, bath and bed for you now. After the pour it will be plumbing andn foundation next I guess. Great job so far. View Quote |
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How deep are your footers?
I'm just noting the construction differences between up here in the frozen north and somewhere.....warmer... |
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I have nothing to add, other than I love these construction threads.
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Come down here while it is sitting in my yard. Clearly, you know where the start button is. edited for grammar. @LOW50S View Quote Those little Mini excavator are sweet I enjoy running them. I agree that some people make it look easy but that is a skill that comes with time. I guess I am lucky that I can play with machinery at work and have some stuff like a backhoe and D6 at home. |
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How deep are your footers? I'm just noting the construction differences between up here in the frozen north and somewhere.....warmer... View Quote I know some people who have done garages around me on a floating slab with the edges poured at 2'x12" but you can also do some other cool stuff if you are worried about frost if you read Builders Guide to Frost Protected Shallow Foundations |
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How deep are your footers? I'm just noting the construction differences between up here in the frozen north and somewhere.....warmer... View Quote I used to know code for that, but I don't know where it currently stands here. I'll ask him. But you will be able to see more of it when they're doing the pour in upcoming photos. |
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What will this building be used for ? Never said in the OP is it a Kitty cave? I think you posted a picture of rough plumbing it just looked like you had a large amount of plumbing if I am not mistaken ?
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What will this building be used for ? Never said in the OP is it a Kitty cave? I think you posted a picture of rough plumbing it just looked like you had a large amount of plumbing if I am not mistaken ? View Quote |
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I noticed in her sketch an old fashioned pulley used for bringing hay into the loft. Maybe a hint? Small barn for goats,? View Quote I want that pulley because it makes the thing look like a barn instead of a tall house. The only thing I can think of looking at in my back yard without hating it, is a barn. So I made it narrow and tall, like the small barns where farmers around here smoke dark-fired tobacco starting about this time each year. The guest house on the side will be shorter. That sketch was TRULY the first idea I had for what I wanted. It's morphed since then, but the idea is the same. My trouble is finding some kind of viable vertical siding that I can afford. Putting clapboard style vinyl on it will completely ruin the "barn" effect. Can't use metal, because as you will see, we have a LOT of black walnut trees. When those hit metal siding or roofing, it sounds like cannon fire. The goal is to have a storage building with a studio (for me) and a guest quarters with a really nice bathroom for visitors, and (if needed) a place for my mom, who will be 90 next week and is not in good health. Mom is with my sister right now, but should she need a place, I want to have one. |
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The construction mess is always fun.
Just ask my wife . It's worth it in the end, or that is what i keep telling her |
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The construction mess is always fun. Just ask my wife . It's worth it in the end, or that is what i keep telling her View Quote |
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Careful I could teach but require some shooting of class 3 I dont have that luxury here in IA. Those little Mini excavator are sweet I enjoy running them. I agree that some people make it look easy but that is a skill that comes with time. I guess I am lucky that I can play with machinery at work and have some stuff like a backhoe and D6 at home. View Quote |
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Baby burger looks like the laser receiver. View Quote I think the thing on his ruler was the receiver. (I don't know this..just guessing) There were two different lasers. Both were self-leveling and expensive, from what I gathered. The big one was on the tripod. The little one he sat on the footers. The "receiver" was the thing on his ruler, right? He used that with both of the Burgers. |
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I didn't notice any rebar in the footers running along the bottom?
I've never seen this before. We build in Atlanta, so things might be different here, but it is concerning. Great write-up. As far as vertical siding , hardiplak board & batten is popular. |
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I don't think so. I think the thing on his ruler was the receiver. (I don't know this..just guessing) There were two different lasers. Both were self-leveling and expensive, from what I gathered. The big one was on the tripod. The little one he sat on the footers. The "receiver" was the thing on his ruler, right? He used that with both of the Burgers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Baby burger looks like the laser receiver. I think the thing on his ruler was the receiver. (I don't know this..just guessing) There were two different lasers. Both were self-leveling and expensive, from what I gathered. The big one was on the tripod. The little one he sat on the footers. The "receiver" was the thing on his ruler, right? He used that with both of the Burgers. |
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I didn't notice any rebar in the footers running along the bottom? I've never seen this before. We build in Atlanta, so things might be different here, but it is concerning. Great write-up. As far as vertical siding , hardiplak board & batten is popular. View Quote |
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Might be by county like up here. My county is compliant with my state building codes, be had#4 rebar in the footers. Next county over doesn't comply, so there are no building codes. Build however you want. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I didn't notice any rebar in the footers running along the bottom? I've never seen this before. We build in Atlanta, so things might be different here, but it is concerning. Great write-up. As far as vertical siding , hardiplak board & batten is popular. Permits & inspections or not, minimum building codes exist for a reason. |
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Yeah, must of just been a small laser. The receiver almost looks like a stud finder, usually mounted to a surveyor stick (expandable ruler). View Quote The guys were explaining how both lasers were self-leveling, which took a lot of the pain out of and makes them much faster to use. |
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I didn't notice any rebar in the footers running along the bottom? I've never seen this before. We build in Atlanta, so things might be different here, but it is concerning. Great write-up. As far as vertical siding , hardiplak board & batten is popular. View Quote I am going to ask why it wasn't necessary for this application. I think there will be rebar in the slab itself. Yeah, Hardi is popular. Hardi thinks well of it, though. Too well for my budget. Somebody suggested yesterday that I do what the Amish do around here--wrap the barn with Tyvek and let it sit until I can put what I want on it. I just might. |
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Might be by county like up here. My county is compliant with my state building codes, be had#4 rebar in the footers. Next county over doesn't comply, so there are no building codes. Build however you want. View Quote More though, this guy is not going to do it if it isn't right. I should add, even the building inspector said this same thing about AFC. ETA: I should have said...Kentucky has a uniform building code, but the county can exceed that code with its own requirements, and our county does. |
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Footer may have had "cat hair" in it. In some cases both are used but to many that s considered overkill.
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@Rat_Patrol, I just realized there's a big hole dug out for me so I could get to the water supply ingress pipe, so I went down there and measured. It looks like the footer above the water supply ingress is about 8" thick, and once backfilled along the wall it will be about 36-42" deep (I mean underground) once the final grading is done.
Found a bad thing though. We had a storm come through last night. Plastic blew off the guy's mortar. All the bags are wet. I'm going to hate sending that text. |
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I'm hoping you come up with some great value engineered siding options.
My garage project gets house wrapped next week and I need ideas It's probably going to sit that way until spring. |
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I'm hoping you come up with some great value engineered siding options. My garage project gets house wrapped next week and I need ideas It's probably going to sit that way until spring. View Quote Not the kind of option you would want for your house, but for my "barn" the actual vertical barnwood siding would be ideal. I think I saw some house wrap that had been specifically designed to be under siding that had "exposures" meaning cracks, nail holes, etc. I did not bookmark it though. It was dark colored so it didn't look ugly under those applications. No idea of its quality. Just saw it in passing and was moving too fast to note it. There is vertical vinyl "board & batten" siding, but they want almost as much for it as they do for the fiber cement sidings. |
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Footer may have had "cat hair" in it. In some cases both are used but to many that s considered overkill. View Quote I'm only half joking. Everything in my world has cat hair in it. Okay serious now: The bricks in both my chimneys are made with hog hair. (house is 170 years old). So what is cat hair? Is it some kind of fiber additive that adds holding power? I think this is 6K lb concrete in these footers. I have no idea what it takes to make concrete that strong, but if cat hair will do it, I have a new respect for cat hair. @Evil_chaos |
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I can guarantee, since I was present, that the footer had cat hair in it. I'm only half joking. Everything in my world has cat hair in it. Okay serious now: The bricks in both my chimneys are made with hog hair. (house is 170 years old). So what is cat hair? Is it some kind of fiber additive that adds holding power? I think this is 6K lb concrete in these footers. I have no idea what it takes to make concrete that strong, but if cat hair will do it, I have a new respect for cat hair. @Evil_chaos View Quote |
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cat hair = slang/trade name for fiberglass strand "chop" added to concrete to increase strength.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber-reinforced_concrete ar-jedi |
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What is it with those concrete trucks?
I saw those in KY and TN this summer, they are backwards from every truck I've seen in Texas where it unloads in the back. Is it just a regional thing or is there a legitimate reason why they use those there? |
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What is it with those concrete trucks? I saw those in KY and TN this summer, they are backwards from every truck I've seen in Texas where it unloads in the back. Is it just a regional thing or is there a legitimate reason why they use those there? View Quote The downside to front-discharge trucks is that they generally need a much more custom-made body, frame, the rear cab for the engine etc. is all different and as such more expensive because there's less economy of scale. Rear discharge "traditional" cement trucks are cheaper because all the mixer barrel and chute gear etc. can just be bolted onto a standard truck body. |
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