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Posted: 10/27/2018 6:27:05 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm not the popo, but here's from my local department's info. The total residents number is off. It is ~920K now. Not sure if the popo have grown proportionally. They are always hiring.
https://www.gwinnettcounty.com/web/gwinnett/departments/police The Gwinnett County Police Department is a nationally accredited and rapidly growing police agency located in the Northeastern quadrant of the Atlanta metropolitan area. The Department currently has an authorized strength of 813 sworn officers supported by 280 civilian employees with the responsibility of providing law enforcement services to approximately 800,000 residents within an area of 436 square miles. The Department is organized into the Office of the Chief and two Bureaus with four Divisions: Administrative Services, Support Operations, Criminal Investigations and Uniform Divisions. |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 9:01:06 PM EDT
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I've worked for 5 small departments over the years ranging in size from 10 to 25. Two were military bases. one was a suburb of San Antonio one a small town on the gulf coast One a Federal installation with sole federal jurisdiction. We always run short of people no matter where the manning always fails to take into account that there will be vacation leave, sick leave, injuries etc. Best you can hope for is that the guys you work with take care of each other and look out for each other. The down side of the job is you never get in trouble for the fucking off you do but you do get in trouble for the hard work you do. Be careful and watch each others backs and never forget that TIME is on your side don't rush into something when you can wait a few minutes for backup. Remember when really really bad things happen cops come from other jurisdictions to assist...... TIME is on your side!!!
They used to say : " Real policemen learned from the SLA ...they carry an extra box of ammo in their briefcase!" SLA |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 9:16:32 PM EDT
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43 man Department (48 at full staffing) serving around 22k residents in 5 square miles (23-25k calls/year).
1 Chief 1 Captain 28 Patrol (Sgt + 6 zones with a 4 zone minimum, 4 squads on 12 hour shifts) 6 Detectives 3 Narcotics 3 Special Operations 1 SRO |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 7:11:11 AM EDT
[#4]
13 sworn
Chief 2 Sgt 1 det/cpl 9 patrol (budgeted for 9 but city council won't approve us filling the 9th spot right now) 12 hr shifts with 2 minimum staffing (vacation/personal/sick/comp time are considered on duty) 10,000 residents in 5 square miles |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 3:25:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Our administration set "minimum staffing" for daywatch in the busiest precinct(daytime population approx. 300,000) is 17 officers.
It's been steadily dwindling, old roll call sheets from the 90's had 40-50 officers on one watch. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 4:07:23 PM EDT
[#6]
Interesting. Thank you for the link.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 4:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
43 man Department (48 at full staffing) serving around 22k residents in 5 square miles (23-25k calls/year). 1 Chief 1 Captain 28 Patrol (Sgt + 6 zones with a 4 zone minimum, 4 squads on 12 hour shifts) 6 Detectives 3 Narcotics 3 Special Operations 1 SRO |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 4:09:03 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
13 sworn Chief 2 Sgt 1 det/cpl 9 patrol (budgeted for 9 but city council won't approve us filling the 9th spot right now) 12 hr shifts with 2 minimum staffing (vacation/personal/sick/comp time are considered on duty) 10,000 residents in 5 square miles |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 6:35:53 PM EDT
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35,000 plus population
188 square miles, over 500 miles of paved roadway. Over 3000 calls of service per month. Patrol division has 7 deputies per shift. Includes a corporal (FTO and assistant shift commander) and a sergeant. 12 hour shifts. 2 on 2 off, 3 on 3 off...so every other weekend is a long weekend to work or a long weekend off. CID, Jail, Courthouse security and Communications have their own chain of command. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:38:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Amongst all divisions, roughly 100 employees. Road patrol minimum is three plus a supervisor, which is inadequate. Patrol area is 492 square miles
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Posted: 10/29/2018 7:36:36 AM EDT
[#11]
We're probably around 250 sworn (including the jail), with around 20 people per shift in a perfect world (never gonna happen).
My jurisdiction is almost 600 square miles with a population around 125,000. |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 7:42:56 AM EDT
[#12]
My department was 113 sworn, about 60 on patrol for 90k-ish in a 42sq mile city.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 9:25:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Our administration set "minimum staffing" for daywatch in the busiest precinct(daytime population approx. 300,000) is 17 officers. It's been steadily dwindling, old roll call sheets from the 90's had 40-50 officers on one watch. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 10:06:21 AM EDT
[#14]
As a rule of thumb, you'll need five officers to cover an 8 hour shift, everyday, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
Some positions don't require that level of staffing. For example, won't need the same number of officers assigned to traffic control on weekends and late night. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 12:40:21 AM EDT
[#15]
Sheriff, Undersheriff, Captain, 4 Patrol Sergeants, 3 Detectives and 13 Patrol Deputies. We work a 4/10 schedule and patrol approximately 3,200 square miles serving a population of approximately 77k.
ETA these numbers aren’t counting the Civil Division, Corrections, SAR, etc. Just Patrol. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 1:50:30 AM EDT
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Sheriff, Undersheriff, 1 Admin Lt (Road Patrol), 1 Jail Lt(Corrections). 1 Det. Lt, 1 Det Sgt, and (current staffing, not allocated levels) 11 Road Deputies+ 4 Sgts, 15 Corrections Officers+ 4 Sgts, and 2 Animal Control Officers.
County of approx 30-35K + seasonal tourist numbers, around 550sqmi. Road always runs minimum of 2 at night. Although 3 is preferred. Sgt covers the 4 townships surrounding the SO, while the other is a 2 man car covering the rest of the county. If someone is off, the Sgt's car becomes the general patrol car for the county, always riding 2 up. Days, 3+1 Sgt. Single man cars. That being said, road patrol also covers court bailiff duties, so usually it's just the the Sgt out answering complaints. 12hr shifts. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 2:05:29 AM EDT
[#17]
My city is 36 sq miles with a bit over 50K citizens. We have 71 sworn personnel with 23 civilian employees. 3 of those civilian employees are community officers that will respond to non-violent and non-progress calls and take those reports. Minimum staffing is 5 patrol officers per shift plus a Cpl, Sgt, and Lt.
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Posted: 12/6/2018 2:56:36 AM EDT
[#18]
1972 sworn, 520 non sworn, 376 volunteers
jurisdiction covers 546 sq miles of which we work 438 sq miles. population - 1,030,214.......... 869,495 - in the areas we work |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 9:26:41 PM EDT
[#19]
220 sworn positions but we are currently 20 or so short, about 30 non sworn
County population is 105k with 474 sq miles. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 11:07:02 AM EDT
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We're about 7-8 square miles.
We have three officers and a supervisor per shift. We are doing the stupid 8 hour shift, rotating every 4 weeks thing. We were on 12s, but mgmt hates us so we're back on rotating eights. we have: 1 chief 1 assistant chief 3 lts. 3 sgts. 3 detectives 17 patrol officers (1 is out on injury and will probably retire before returning) we're 8 officers short of where city charter says we can be and city council wants and says we can afford to hire 8 more officers but the chief and mayor are penny pinchers. meanwhile, the fire dept is two short and their OT this year has passed $400k and we're less than 1/4 of that. so we make do with 17 cops on the road between the three shifts. Don't remember what call we're at, but I think we're at 45k calls for the year. I know we're at crash #552 for the year. 
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Posted: 12/7/2018 3:07:47 PM EDT
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Per Wiki:
Square miles 8,061 Area commands 9 Commissioned officers 3,300+ Airbases 1 Detention Centers 3 Marked and Unmarked Cars 2,000+ Motorcycles 160+ Helicopters 6 Boats 3 Dogs 42 Horses 12 |
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Posted: 12/8/2018 10:41:49 PM EDT
[#22]
25k population
4sq miles I think we have about 25 that work the streets, this number doesn't include the admin people (chief etc) 8 hour shifts, with 8 people per shift with rotating days off..... this means normally everyday we have about 4 or 5 people working. |
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Posted: 12/9/2018 11:14:21 PM EDT
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Campus / Medical Center Police Department
Chief (1) Dep. Chief (1) Captains (3) Soon to be 4-5 Sergeants (8) Soon to increase unsure by how much (3 patrol) (1 Investigations, 1 Community Policing, 1 Training, 1 CALEA, 1 Emergency Management / Communications) Corporals (5) - Authorized 6 Officers 35ish and increasing due to expansion We cover about 20k in population with our main campus being about 1 square mile and side campus areas increasing that. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 3:01:05 AM EDT
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somehwhere around 1200sworn. Population around 1 milliion. 600+ square miles. Only 3 incorported cities with their own police department in the county.
6 districts. I work midnight patrol in the 2nd largest district, we have 2 sgts and are supposed to have 16 officers but we hover around 12. Oh but we have tons of specialty uncontrolled units that conveniently work bankers hours. No Im not bitter at all. However we do have everything except for a helicopter. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 3:41:58 AM EDT
[#25]
Currently
1 chief 3 officers I know the local deputies better than the other officers here.. Formerly 25 sworn More formerly 250 sworn |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 4:10:14 AM EDT
[#26]
28 sq miles, 38k population, 67 sworn, 12 hr shifts. Minimum staffing is 6 plus a Cpl and Sgt, but there are plenty of times we just have 5 plus a Cpl.
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Posted: 12/12/2018 5:58:15 PM EDT
[#27]
When I started in 2011.......
Chief, only one working during the week. 1 part time officer(list of 4-5), six hour shifts on Friday and Saturday night. Now we have the Chief working days, an 80% officer on nights during the week and still one part time officer that can work up to 20 hours total a weekend. Town is about 710 population 2.5 sq miles. |
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Posted: 12/15/2018 1:38:53 AM EDT
[#28]
Wow! I knew my department was small but some of you guys having around 2000 staff blows my mind. I really wish my department was bigger with more divisions than just road patrol. Thanks for all your responses.
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Posted: 12/15/2018 1:41:16 PM EDT
[#29]
125 sworn.
10 patrol cars, 2 Sgt.'s, 1 Lt. per shift 8 hour shifts. Way too much "support" staff. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 2:00:38 AM EDT
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Town of 3,000. Department is six officers including the Chief. Shift can be anything from one (mostly daytime) to three ( four on/three off schedule has one day a week that happens).
County has another 2,000 residents. Sheriff's Office is five, including the Sheriff. They tend to have two or three in the daytime (vehicle VIN inspections, county permits and court stuff) and only one at night. Of course the county is about 6,000 square miles (bigger than the state of Connecticut). |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 5:12:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Size of department, also dictated by how top-heavy you are.
My old department was 60, and typically had 7-8 officers on patrol at a time. Now they are so bizarrely organized, everyone is a sergeant or above, and given the turnover of people leaving, they literally have 1 supervisor for 1 officer corporal or below. Patrol shifts have struggled for several years with 2-3 officers on at a time total. It's absolutely moronic(and makes me feel happy to have left). |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 6:56:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Sheesh...now I feel bad about working at my tiny 4, soon to be 5 man department including the chief who also works just like any patrol officer. 1 person per shift. 10 hours days with on call hours. 4 on 4 off. County has a total of 18 sworn but that includes the sheriff and chief deputy and 2 court house deputies, two investigators, one guy recently took a position on a federal task force, so really that's only 11 for patrol for 645 square miles and 25k-ish people. Generally there's 2, sometimes 3 deputies out on nights. They work 4 on 4 off 11 hour shifts. State Police, not sure how many they have at the moment...5 I think that "work" the road. 1, maybe 2 out a night. Usually they are in by midnight or 2am. Then there's one other municipal department on the other side of the county that's a one man show at the moment.
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Posted: 2/15/2019 2:39:02 PM EDT
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Largest county in Florida, around 2000 square miles. County population around 1.5 million. There are about 15 cities that have their own departments. The Sheriffs Office services everything else and several cities for law enforcement services. Sworn is about 1500 on patrol and another 700 corrections. Our total staff is a little over 4000 employees. We have 17 districts and I’m sure there is probably a couple hundred on duty patrol at all times, plus detectives and other specialty units. My specialized detective unit has 20 detectives just by itself. Our budget was 650 million last year.
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Posted: 2/15/2019 6:13:28 PM EDT
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6.5k population
1,800sq miles Sheriff Undersheriff 5 Patrol Deputies(all are deputy coroners as well) 1 Jailer 12 hour shifts 1-2 patrol deputies on per evening shift Sheriff answers calls on dayshift during the week |
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