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Posted: 9/20/2005 3:38:05 PM EDT

Is it legal to ship an upper receiver in state or out of state from a private person to another private person?

Posted: 9/11/2005 8:18:31 PM EDT

[#1]

If the upper is barrelled, just make sure that the state you ship it to doesn't still have the "evil features" laws (IE: threaded muzzle) in effect.

Posted: 9/10/2005 9:38:15 PM EDT

[#2]

Why would it not be? You can mail order them from companies/stores. There is no serial number, they are not tracked.

Posted: 9/11/2005 9:36:43 AM EDT

[#3]

Yes, it is perfectly legal. The upper receiver (with or without barrel) is a "gun part" and not considered the actual gun.

The only part of an AR that needs to be shipped to an FFL is the lower receiver, as that is considered a firearm.

Posted: 9/20/2005 12:57:00 PM EDT

[#4]

Is there a list of states to beware of? I think CA, NY, CT, DE, RI, IL, MD, HI, MA would fit on it. Does anyone know?

Nick

Posted: 9/20/2005 1:52:03 PM EDT

[#5]

you mean that I cant buy a short barreled upper and ship it to kalli?
I thought these things werent registered or traced like lowers...im confused?

Posted: 9/20/2005 3:39:58 PM EDT

[#6]

jadams951 I moved this to Legal. These guys should be better able to help you then we can in the EE.

Posted: 9/22/2005 8:05:45 AM EDT

[#7]

Wow, I thought people would jump on this topic. Does anyone have any ideas on where to not ship uppers?

Nick H

Posted: 9/25/2005 9:48:46 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Is there a list of states to beware of? I think CA, NY, CT, DE, RI, IL, MD, HI, MA would fit on it. Does anyone know?

Nick

CA would not be included. If a AR is registered as a AW (per the law now) then it can have all the evil features one desires. For the non detachable mag lowers like the Vulcan and FAB 10, since they don't use a detachable mag they can also have all the evil upper receiver features.

Posted: 9/26/2005 5:40:40 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Is there a list of states to beware of? I think CA, NY, CT, DE, RI, IL, MD, HI, MA would fit on it. Does anyone know?

Nick

CA would not be included. If a AR is registered as a AW (per the law now) then it can have all the evil features one desires. For the non detachable mag lowers like the Vulcan and FAB 10, since they don't use a detachable mag they can also have all the evil upper receiver features.

The same is true in NY with the exception that it needs to be assembled on a preban or fixed mag lower. There are no restrictions to shipping gun parts to NY. It is up to the purchaser to use them in a lawful manner and not the seller's responsibility.

Posted: 9/26/2005 1:44:55 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is there a list of states to beware of? I think CA, NY, CT, DE, RI, IL, MD, HI, MA would fit on it. Does anyone know?

Nick

CA would not be included. If a AR is registered as a AW (per the law now) then it can have all the evil features one desires. For the non detachable mag lowers like the Vulcan and FAB 10, since they don't use a detachable mag they can also have all the evil upper receiver features.

The same is true in NY with the exception that it needs to be assembled on a preban or fixed mag lower. There are no restrictions to shipping gun parts to NY. It is up to the purchaser to use them in a lawful manner and not the seller's responsibility.

So, does this mean that I really don't have to worry about where I'm shipping to?

Nick

Posted: 10/9/2005 2:48:19 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
you mean that I cant buy a short barreled upper and ship it to kalli?
I thought these things werent registered or traced like lowers...im confused?

Well, sure you can do it. The problem might arise if your recipient gets caught with it.

Kinda like you can ship a kilo of coke to kali, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Posted: 10/9/2005 5:23:39 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
you mean that I cant buy a short barreled upper and ship it to kalli?
I thought these things werent registered or traced like lowers...im confused?

Well, sure you can do it. The problem might arise if your recipient gets caught with it.

Kinda like you can ship a kilo of coke to kali, but I wouldn't recommend it.

It's only a problem if the recipient has a AR and does not have the proper permits for a SBR issued from the feds and the state.

Upper receivers for ARs are not registered in any way, shape or form here in CA.

Posted: 10/9/2005 7:31:19 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Is there a list of states to beware of? I think CA, NY, CT, DE, RI, IL, MD, HI, MA would fit on it. Does anyone know?

Nick

I don't know of any reason IL would be on that list, heck alot of uppers are MADE here....LOL

Posted: 10/9/2005 7:54:33 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

So, does this mean that I really don't have to worry about where I'm shipping to?

Nick

I've never had a problem ordering uppers here in NY .
Except when UPS bends them

Posted: 10/9/2005 8:00:42 PM EDT

[#15]

From what I've heard, it's the buyer's responsibility to abide by their state's laws. I can send high capacity mags to PRK. The act of "importing" them into the state is what is illegal. So the person receiving them is breaking the law, not you.

I wouldn't want to get caught in that hairy mess in the first place though. If it's a Short Barreled Upper, I'd want to see some sort of paperwork before I shipped it.

Do what you feel is right. If you get the gut feeling that its wrong, don't do it.

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