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Posted: 1/20/2002 4:31:11 PM EDT
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I read the book long ago the first time, i perhaps made the mistake of reading just before watching the movie. But now after seeing the movie 3 times, it gets better every time.
I can understand how they must pack 18 hours of a fight to 2+ hours, some people are left out, some heroic deeds are left out, people are merged etc.. The former TFR guys i have talked with feel much stronger that they should have done some things differently, but overall they say it shows the heroism and the courage of the soldiers well. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 4:42:02 PM EDT
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I saw the PBS show Frontline about this incident called Ambush in Mogadishu before I read the book. The Frontline special had film crews in Mogadishu, and I think the film does a real great job of recreating the city. The first LZ in front of the Olympic hotel looks just like it did in real life.
[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ambush/[/url] |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 4:53:08 PM EDT
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I guess I was most dissapointed in the layout of the first crash site in the movie. It definitely didn'e fit my mental image from the book.
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Posted: 1/20/2002 4:57:46 PM EDT
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The History Channel is doing "the real story" tomorrow night at 9.
I've seen the movie, now I'll watch that and then read the book. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 5:07:23 PM EDT
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Now you tell me. And here I am almost finished with the book. I was just getting out in 93 when this all took place so I am pretty familiar with it but wanted to read the book for the entire story before seeing the movie.
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Posted: 1/20/2002 5:26:05 PM EDT
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A movie is never as good as the book it's based on. I haven't read the book, nor did I have any thorough knowledge of the incident in Somolia.
Having said that, I thought the movie was great. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 5:35:05 PM EDT
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Gabriel and others interested, they held a panel on the mission in Somalia, included are for example; Mark Bowden, Ridley Scott, Colonels Van Arsdale and Matthews. Gives a very good insight to the operations in Somalia.
[url]www.cspan.org[/url] Look for Black Hawk Down, the search should come up with a link to a video about 38 minutes in length. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 5:45:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: A movie is never as good as the book it's based on. In some cases it is. In a few cases, the movie is better. In this case, it would have been very difficult for the movie to be exactly true to the book, since the book wasn't really in a narrative format. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 5:50:23 PM EDT
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Personally I think reading the book made the movie better as I knew more of the background.
I too had a problem with one of the crash sites, but I just thought I remembered it wrong from the book. For accuracy purposes, I think most people would agree that this scores a 9 out of 10 compared to most Hollywood recreations. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 6:19:43 PM EDT
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Yes for accuracy purposes it was quite close, but the buildings seemed to big in the city, the time line seemed off just a little and some things seemed altered to enhance the story a little.
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Posted: 1/20/2002 6:26:10 PM EDT
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Was it just me, or did some of the footage of Elvis' Blackhawk going down look like the real deal. The pentagon has all the video from the event, so maybe they used the real stuff. I am referring to the video that General Garrison was watching in the JOC.
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Posted: 1/20/2002 6:36:14 PM EDT
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My movie grade: 9.25/10.
Parts I missed: 1. Combat Jack 2. 2 Somalies comming up the road, fire at one full auto and sweep across #2. 3. Medic running back across road to get IV bags. 4. Grenades tossed over wall that didn't go off. 5. Contrast of new guys versus old guys reaction to morter fire on base. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 8:14:51 PM EDT
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Has anybody done any snooping and pooping over in the Ranger web sites, to see how they are taking the movie and whether or not it gets their their thumb up or down?
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Posted: 1/20/2002 8:32:45 PM EDT
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kindstanger:
1. Combat Jack: at the begining of the book the rangers talk a bit about whacking off in different areas around the world. A combat jack would be exactly what it sounds like. 2. the gunner just opened up on the first somali and swept across onto the nest one and never stopped firing. 3. one of hte soldiers was hit an needed an IV bag. the medic ran across the street through through a firefight 3 or 5 times. i cant remember if the bags broke or what, but he ran back and forth. 4. the grenades were old russian stick grenades left over from like WWII. well not that old, but you get the picture. they were all duds. 5. new guys flinched or hit the deck when the mortars hit while as the old guys didnt bother with them. |
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Posted: 1/20/2002 8:47:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: Has anybody done any snooping and pooping over in the Ranger web sites, to see how they are taking the movie and whether or not it gets their their thumb up or down? www.suasponte.com Most of the guys I know thought it was a pretty good compromise between Hollywood and reality. YMMV. |
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