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Wow, that's an amazing story. I hope you are able to find the rest of it.
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Dayum, that was a neat read.
Took alot of balls to get on a liberty ship that was in a huge convoy with the wolf packs on the prowl... |
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Thats great, I wish my grandfather had left more regarding his experience in ETO.
Luckily he took LOTS of pictures, and I now have the albums. Theres one photo of him faking bayonetting one of his buddies wearing a german officers jacket. I love those albums. |
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Wow, that's an amazing story. I hope you are able to find the rest of it. Unfortunately this is all that they have sent me. They also have his purple hearts and other medals /citations and alot of other things I would love to just see. Quoted:
Dayum, that was a neat read. Took alot of balls to get on a liberty ship that was in a huge convoy with the wolf packs on the prowl... A sub was eventually responsible for its sinking. Well a sub damaged the ship and it was then hit by several aerial torpedoes it seems. I have a few more pages if yall would like to read them, I'm just copying and pasting from a scanned image it seems so some characters aren't converted right. |
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Do a google search for "SS Nathaniel Greene" and see what comes up. I did something similar in trying to do research on my own grandfather, and you would be surprised at some of the stuff you find. One site I found in my own research was made by the son of one of the guy's my grandfather served with (he had recently passed, so no idea if they would have known each other).
Good luck, great story. ETA: I think it might be "Nathanael" Greene, this is from the "Nathanael Greene" wiki article: Liberty class steam merchant (1942), which was sunk by a U-boat during World War II,
There is a more recent "USS Nathanael Greene" that appears to be a submarine. |
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Wow, that's an amazing story. I hope you are able to find the rest of it. Unfortunately this is all that they have sent me. They also have his purple hearts and other medals /citations and alot of other things I would love to just see. Quoted:
Dayum, that was a neat read. Took alot of balls to get on a liberty ship that was in a huge convoy with the wolf packs on the prowl... A sub was eventually responsible for its sinking. Well a sub damaged the ship and it was then hit by several aerial torpedoes it seems. I have a few more pages if yall would like to read them, I'm just copying and pasting from a scanned image it seems so some characters aren't converted right. If he was awarded the Purple Heart Medal he was in the military, not the merchant marine. |
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I kick myself in the butt for not making more of an effort to ask my uncle about his experience with the Flying Tigers.
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If he was awarded the Purple Heart Medal he was in the military, not the merchant marine. I figured he must have been. I found a pin from a SEABEEs reunion he went to and remember him saying something once about being a SEABEE but it gets confusing because he was in the Merchant Marines prior to WW2 and later taught at the Merchant Marine Academy I am told.... Quoted:
D'oh I always mispell it but yes it is Nathanael Greene. As you said google turns up mixed results, seems every time I google there is a new source of info, a new site which has been made or a new article written.
Do a google search for "SS Nathaniel Greene" and see what comes up. I did something similar in trying to do research on my own grandfather, and you would be surprised at some of the stuff you find. One site I found in my own research was made by the son of one of the guy's my grandfather served with (he had recently passed, so no idea if they would have known each other). Good luck, great story. ETA: I think it might be "Nathanael" Greene, this is from the "Nathanael Greene" wiki article: Liberty class steam merchant (1942), which was sunk by a U-boat during World War II,
There is a more recent "USS Nathanael Greene" that appears to be a submarine. |
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Your grandfather's account comes from either 12, 13, 14, or 15 September, 1942.
Here is a link to an account of the explosion he describes, with a picture of the ill fated ship: http://www.portchicago.org/lastwave/chapters/LastWave_Ch8.pdf Report indicates it was a Junkers 88 Torpedo bomber, already in flames from A.A. fire, that set off her cargo of H.E., and if the report is right, the explosion took out the attacking plane and another attacking German plane. |
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Man, those PQ convoys were grueling. Going through frigid artic waters under Nazi sub, sea and air attack without let up.
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Your grandfather's account comes from either 12, 13, 14, or 15 September, 1942. Here is a link to an account of the explosion he describes, with a picture of the ill fated ship: http://www.portchicago.org/lastwave/chapters/LastWave_Ch8.pdf Report indicates it was a Junkers 88 Torpedo bomber, already in flames from A.A. fire, that set off her cargo of H.E., and if the report is right, the explosion took out the attacking plane and another attacking German plane. Thanks for that link! I have to think from my grandfathers descripton that perhaps his ship is somewhere in that photograph. Perhaps one of the ones silhouetted against the explosion? He said the Luckenbach was little more that a ships length to their starboard so that would seem to indicate so. ETA what I just copied and pasted to the OP indicates it was the 14th of Sept. |
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Wow.
Pure win. What an experience. Men who fight and survive like this to tell the tale so eloquently are some bad motherfuckers. |
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Your grandfather's account comes from either 12, 13, 14, or 15 September, 1942. Here is a link to an account of the explosion he describes, with a picture of the ill fated ship: http://www.portchicago.org/lastwave/chapters/LastWave_Ch8.pdf Report indicates it was a Junkers 88 Torpedo bomber, already in flames from A.A. fire, that set off her cargo of H.E., and if the report is right, the explosion took out the attacking plane and another attacking German plane. Thanks for that link! I have to think from my grandfathers descripton that perhaps his ship is somewhere in that photograph. Perhaps one of the ones silhouetted against the explosion? He said the Luckenbach was little more that a ships length to their starboard so that would seem to indicate so. ETA what I just copied and pasted to the OP indicates it was the 14th of Sept. Wow... that was a KILOTON level explosion. |
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Good story.
My grandfather is still alive (but his health is failing ). He was a Marine too. I believe he was a Buck Sargent (?). Anyway, he drove the boats that took the soldiers to the shores. I believe he got drafted late into the war because he never was sent on a mission. They wanted him to stay in after the war was over, but he really didn't like it so he declined. My grandmother lived with him on base and worked at a couple differnet laundries close to the base. She opened and savings account and put all the money she made into it. when they came home, they had accumulated quite a good amount of money for the time. They love to talk about it, so I engage them in conversation a lot. |
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Wow. Pure win. What an experience. Men who fight and survive like this to tell the tale so eloquently are some bad motherfuckers. I've learned how tough the man was since he died... He grew up during the depression tons of brothers and sisters (Irish family) he dropped out of high school to provide for them. Wore shoes made of cardboard and ate scraps of rotting food as he could find it. Lied about his age to join the CCC and later Merchant Marines. After the war he went to Suffolk and then Harvard University. Never had a high school diploma and never had a penny in his lifetime that he didn't work his ass off for. his brothers were also tough guys...I found a newspaper clipping from 1936 talking about his brother who was arrested in germany. he was a sailor also, had just delivered cargo I suppose. anyway he was arrested by the Gestapo the article said for getting drunk and yelling obscenities about Hitler. When confronted he began to sing the "Communist anthem" (?? USSR Anthem maybe?) I don't think he was a communist, I think he just enjoyed causing trouble. This guy got into bar fights up into his 70s. Not sure how he managed to get out of that mess but he was giving the Germans a hard time again 8 years later |
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You are welcome. thanks for posting the part of the book you own; I hope you find the rest of it one day & have the whole thing published.
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Thank you for sharing. That read like a novel and your grandfather was quite a good writer for someone who never got his high school diploma. Popeye, Nelson, Nimitz and Halsey would be proud to be his shipmate.
If you want, I can put you in contact with Dr. Craig Symonds, a professional historian who just retired from the Mariners' Museum (Newport News, VA). He's already written several books and can probably edit that diary. I'm sure the Naval Institute Press will publish it (if not some university press). |
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Thank you for sharing. That read like a novel and your grandfather was quite a good writer for someone who never got his high school diploma. Popeye, Nelson, Nimitz and Halsey would be proud to be his shipmate. If you want, I can put you in contact with Dr. Craig Symonds, a professional historian who just retired from the Mariners' Museum (Newport News, VA). He's already written several books and can probably edit that diary. I'm sure the Naval Institute Press will publish it (if not some university press). Thank you for the kind words and your offer, the thing is, I only have whats posted here. I have requested several times the book in its entirety but this is all I've seen. I'm terribly afraid it has been destroyed, as soon as the man died most of his family began to bicker over their inheritance and slander the man . If I can ever get my hands on the rest of it I may pursue something like this... |
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My dad was a B24 pilot, flew a lot of missions. He never talked about it. His only stories were about nearly hitting a radio tower and landing in a blinding sandstorm in Texas and getting lost in a T6 over Missouri.
I think he didn't want my mom to know what it was like flying in the war. She was freaked out enough, taking care of my sister and wondering if he'd come back from overseas. Good thing he did, or I wouldn't be here! |
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