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Posted: 7/13/2008 9:52:31 PM EDT

news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/07/aol-straw-poll-july-7-14

This probably has a ton of sampling error in Obama's favor as his constituents are more wired then McCains, nonetheless a 50 state blowout with 200k plus votes is... interesting.

Posted: 7/13/2008 9:55:04 PM EDT

[#1]

If E-Polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be President for life already.

Posted: 7/13/2008 9:55:50 PM EDT

[#2]

Wait, what? I see McCain winning every state in that (clearly useless) poll.

Posted: 7/13/2008 9:58:38 PM EDT

[#3]

Voted McCain.
Look at that comment count. I'm not stepping foot in there. The level of vitriol must be legendary....

Posted: 7/13/2008 9:58:59 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Wait, what? I see McCain winning every state in that (clearly useless) poll.

+1.

WTF?

Posted: 7/13/2008 9:59:41 PM EDT

[#5]

I think I've voted in that AOL poll in the last who knows how many they've had over the last few months, and McCain has been shown as winning (by a large margin) in each of them. Just voted and not the first time I've seen all States red.

So, not sure what the deal is there.

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:01:17 PM EDT

[#6]

I vote in these everytime.

McCain has won every state everytime, except one time about a month ago he won D.C.

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:01:21 PM EDT

[#7]

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:05:35 PM EDT

[#8]

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If E-Polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be President for life already.

That's my point, Online gooberism is firmly in Obama's favor. This is a large break with that result and its confusing.

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:08:36 PM EDT

[#9]

AOL users are not known for their intelligence.

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:11:35 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If E-Polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be President for life already.

That's my point, Online gooberism is firmly in Obama's favor. This is a large break with that result and its confusing.

What you are seeing is a very small sampling however it could be an indicator. We believe McCain won't win only because the media has rubber stamped Obama to become the next President. Problem is, I know people whom have always voted Democrat- will likely vote McCain.

RR

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:14:22 PM EDT

[#11]

Could be the case that lots of people are starting to realize that the media is conspicuously pimping Obama's BS.

With that, Obama hype might be going on the down swing.

Where are his latest fund raising stats? Is that because the contributions have gone down drastically?

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:25:12 PM EDT

[#12]

the media is obama's ministry of propaganda

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:26:44 PM EDT

[#13]

How does this poll show obama winning? I looked at it and it is similar to what tomislav has posted.

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:34:41 PM EDT

[#14]

I don't get it, what result would you have it show?

Maybe I am missing something though?

Posted: 7/13/2008 10:38:41 PM EDT

[#15]

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If E-Polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be President for life already.

Ahhhh. Internets Hope For American.

Posted: 7/13/2008 11:03:18 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/07/aol-straw-poll-july-7-14

This probably has a ton of sampling error in Obama's favor as his constituents are more wired then McCains, nonetheless a 50 state blowout with 200k plus votes is... interesting.

so, you're a socialist from jersey?

Posted: 7/14/2008 2:04:06 AM EDT

[#17]

I see what it is.

You have to enter an 8 digit code written in stupid swirly letters. Most Obama supporters will have lost interest by the time the get half way through that.

Posted: 7/14/2008 2:07:32 AM EDT

[#18]

An online straw poll a full 4 months before the election?

No way in hell are California, New York, Illinois, or New Jersey going for McCain.

Posted: 7/14/2008 2:39:10 AM EDT

[#19]

Here is the latest Rasmussen poll, they are slightly more accurate than an AOL straw poll.

Here

Posted: 7/14/2008 2:49:34 AM EDT

[#20]

McCain is winning in CA.

Posted: 7/14/2008 2:51:42 AM EDT

[#21]

that Rasmussen poll is encouraging

Posted: 7/14/2008 5:09:36 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Here is the latest Rasmussen poll, they are slightly more accurate than an AOL straw poll.

Here

the same rasmussen who said obama had it in the bag and would not cover hillary's race- when hillary was still running and making a comeback? hmm they don't seem like they're pulling for him at all.

Posted: 7/18/2008 1:44:33 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/07/aol-straw-poll-july-7-14

This probably has a ton of sampling error in Obama's favor as his constituents are more wired then McCains, nonetheless a 50 state blowout with 200k plus votes is... interesting.

so, you're a socialist from jersey?

Uh no.

Posted: 7/18/2008 1:57:09 PM EDT

[#24]

Obama - 33% w/ 109252 votes

McCain - 67% w/ 225792 votes

North Dakota, Vermont, and District of Columbia showing in blue

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:00:42 PM EDT

[#25]

90% of obamas supporters probably dont have access to internet polls.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:01:03 PM EDT

[#26]

Osamabama is getting whooped.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:04:15 PM EDT

[#27]

McCain is whippin' his ~~chocolate~~ caramel ass.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:09:08 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Here is the latest Rasmussen poll, they are slightly more accurate than an AOL straw poll.

Here

the same rasmussen who said obama had it in the bag and would not cover hillary's race- when hillary was still running and making a comeback? hmm they don't seem like they're pulling for him at all.

According to most polls taken around this time of the year Al Gore and John Kerry should have won in landslides. We're talking 60/40 in favor of these candidates. It's pretty telling that the biggest lead most of those polls can put together for Obama is only 3-5% points. Obama is going to lose BIG.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:09:38 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
90% of obamas supporters probably dont have access to internet polls.

because they're dead?

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:14:13 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
AOL users are not known for their intelligence.

It's a AOL poll...open to anyone not just AOL users

FWIW I have been following this poll (which resets every week) if past results are indicative of accuracy...this poll was within 2-3 percentage points of the final results of the last two elections

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:16:14 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Here is the latest Rasmussen poll, they are slightly more accurate than an AOL straw poll.

Here

Is that the same Rasmussen report that had Kerry beating Bush by 12 points?

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:18:35 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If E-Polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be President for life already.

That's my point, Online gooberism is firmly in Obama's favor. This is a large break with that result and its confusing.

What you are seeing is a very small sampling however it could be an indicator. We believe McCain won't win only because the media has rubber stamped Obama to become the next President. Problem is, I know people whom have always voted Democrat- will likely vote McCain.

RR

They stamped Kerry too. The day before he was declared the winner in the exit polls by a nice margin in Presidential standards.

He got his ass beat.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:24:50 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
90% of obamas supporters probably dont have access to internet polls.

because they're dead?

http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/8/press_release.asp

# Gender, race, and ethnicity of those offline

There is gender parity in the Internet population - 50% of those online are women and 50% are men. However, women still lag behind men in their relative participation in the online world. When it comes to race and ethnicity, whites are notably more likely to have Internet access than blacks or Hispanics. Still, there are striking similarities in the online and offline population once the economic situation of various groups is taken into account.
# 54% of women do not have Internet access; 49% of men do not have access.
# 50% of whites have access; 36% of blacks have access; 44% of Hispanics have access.
# 78% of whites in households earning more than $75,000 are online; 79% of Hispanics in similar economic circumstances are online; and 69% of blacks in those types of households are online.
# 68% of whites in households earning less than $30,000 are not online; 75% of blacks in similar households are not online; and 74% of Hispanics are not online.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:30:21 PM EDT

[#34]

Voted.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:34:21 PM EDT

[#35]

It's interesting that they give the 50/50 vote forom DC to Obama..

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:34:29 PM EDT

[#36]

firemission this poll to run that percent up even more.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:41:11 PM EDT

[#37]

I will tell you right now, exit polling will show obama the winner, no matter what.
If he doesn't win, there will be whining and riots the likes of which we have never seen in our lifetime.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:52:17 PM EDT

[#38]

As of today (5:47pm centeral time), that poll shows McCain with 67% of the vote, Osamabama with 33%.

McCain winning every state and DC.

If the AOL poll is any indication of the way the actual vote will go, Jessie Jackson and the rest of the shit stirrers will be screaming "RACISM!!!" for years to come. They'll never admit that people simply chose the lesser socialist.

Posted: 7/18/2008 2:58:40 PM EDT

[#39]

Yeah and I've seen some on AOL where Ron paul was winning most states.

I don't think the polls are the most reliable way of who will win.

The race will be much closer than that, and Obama will lose the majority of states.

Posted: 7/19/2008 6:11:46 AM EDT

[#40]

Someone spamed the shit out of the comments section with Obama B.S.

Posted: 7/19/2008 3:19:36 PM EDT

[#41]

bump

Posted: 7/25/2008 5:42:19 AM EDT

[#42]

As of today,McCain is still winning all states.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/20/aol-straw-poll-june-20-27/

Posted: 7/25/2008 5:53:17 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
I will tell you right now, exit polling will show obama the winner, no matter what.
If he doesn't win, there will be whining and riots the likes of which we have never seen in our lifetime.

Yep.

The Bradley Effect.

Posted: 7/25/2008 5:56:51 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
Voted McCain.
Look at that comment count. I'm not stepping foot in there. The level of vitriol must be legendary....

Actually, alot of Obama bashing in there. I found this gem on the first page:

A reading from the Obama Scriptures for July 7, 2008.

From the Book of St. Marx

Chapter 6
Verse 66

In the beginning there was video tape.
and the Tape captured the Word.
and the Word was HATE.
and the Word sprung from the mouth of a Man.
and the Man was Wright.

And try as they might to keep
the Tape from the people
they could not.
After the lands of many caucuses had voted
the Tape was seen.

And the Lord Obama appeared distraught
because the people cried out Why Lord?
Why did you keep this man of hate in your midst?

And the Lord appeared to them and spoke:
This man is not a man of hate.
You do not understand what goes on in his pulpit.
Hate is Love
Mocking is Forgiveness
Insults are Ecstasy
Everything you believe about reality is wrong.
I am the Light and the Way.

Afterward the Olbermann tribe was first to sing out:
YES! YES LORD!
Lies are truth!
Hate is Love!
Division is Unity!

Soon the CNN Tribe, and the Huffington Tribe sang out
in praise of the Lord.

And those who knew
in their American guts
something was still wrong
tried to speak
but they were called racists
and scoundrels
and lepers.

And so the Arugulas worshipped their Lord in the public square
and worshiped St. Marx in secret.

And it came to pass that the Word of Hate was made normal.
And the march of the Lord went on as before.
The people pulled the wool back over their eyes.
And all was well.

Posted: 7/25/2008 6:01:23 AM EDT

[#45]

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90% of obamas supporters probably dont have access to internet polls.

They're too busy waiting on line for the welfare handouts.

Posted: 7/25/2008 6:02:22 AM EDT

[#46]

OBAMA'S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING

Certainly the most interesting and potentially devastating phone call I
have received during this election cycle came this week from one of the
Obama's campaign internet geeks. These are the staffers who devised Obama's
internet fund raising campaign which raised in the neighborhood of $200
million so far. That is more then twice the total funds raised by any
candidate in history - and this was all from the internet campaign.
What I learned from this insider was shocking but I guess we shouldn't be
surprised that when it comes to fund raising there simply are no rules that
can't be broken and no ethics that prevail.
Obama's internet campaign started out innocently enough with basic e-mail
networking , lists saved from previous party campaigns and from supporters
who visited any of the Obama campaign web sites.
Small contributions came in from these sources and the internet campaign
staff were more than pleased by the results.
Then, about two months into the campaign the daily contribution intake
multiplied. Where was it coming from? One of the web site security
monitors began to notice the bulk of the contributions were clearly coming
in from overseas internet service providers and at the rate and frequency of
transmission it was clear these donations were "programmed" by a very
sophisticated user.
While the security people were not able to track most of the sources due
to firewalls and other blocking devices put on these contributions they were
able to collate the number of contributions that were coming in seemingly
from individuals but the funds were from only a few credit card accounts and
bank electronic funds transfers. The internet service providers (ISP) they
were able to trace were from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Middle Eastern
countries. One of the banks used for fund transfers was also located in
Saudi Arabia.
Another concentrated group of donations was traced to a Chinese ISP with a
similar pattern of limited credit card charges.
It became clear that these donations were very likely coming from sources
other than American voters. This was discussed at length within the
campaign and the decision was made that none of these donations violated
campaign financing laws.
It was also decided that it was not the responsibility of the campaign to
audit these millions of contributions as to the actual source (specific
credit card number or bank transfer account numbers) to insure that none of
these internet contributors exceeded the legal maximum donation on a
cumulative basis of many small donations. They also found the record
keeping was not complete enough to do it anyway.
This is a shocking revelation.
We have been concerned about the legality of "bundling" contributions
after the recent exposure of illegal bundlers but now it appears we may have
an even greater problem.
I guess we should have been somewhat suspicious when the numbers started
to come out. We were told (no proof offered) that the Obama internet
contributions were from $10.00 to $25.00 or so.
If the $200,000,000 is right, and the average contribution was $15.00,
that would mean over 13 million individuals made contributions? That would
also be 13 million contributions would need to be processed. How did all
that happen?
I believe the Obama campaign's internet fund raising needs a serious, in
depth investigation and audit. It also appears the whole question of
internet fund raising needs investigation by the legislature and perhaps new
laws to insure it complies not only with the letter of these laws but the
spirit as well.

This needs to be looked at in depth...
I dont know where he got it..

Posted: 7/25/2008 6:02:40 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
I will tell you right now, exit polling will show obama the winner, no matter what.
If he doesn't win, there will be whining and riots the likes of which we have never seen in our lifetime.

And that's why every magazine of every caliber I own will all be loaded come election day, including 8 round enbloc clips.

I am serious about that. I fully expect there to be riots when he doesn't win.

Posted: 7/25/2008 6:18:04 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
It's interesting that they give the 50/50 vote forom DC to Obama..
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You do understand rounding error?
Since they are only showing whole number percentages the differance is likely in the first decimal place.

Posted: 7/25/2008 6:18:23 AM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I will tell you right now, exit polling will show obama the winner, no matter what.
If he doesn't win, there will be whining and riots the likes of which we have never seen in our lifetime.

And that's why every magazine of every caliber I own will all be loaded come election day, including 8 round enbloc clips.

I am serious about that. I fully expect there to be riots when he doesn't win.

i don't think they will be able to successfully disturb the peace.

whining is another story, expect full news coverage.