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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:49:15 AM EDT
I am not a fan of verticle foregrips since they still attach too far forward for my tastes. Instead I support the rifle with my offhand by gripping the front and side of the magwell - not the magazine itself. Basically what I do is use my index and middle finger to support the rifle by wrapping around the magwell. The other two fingers either lightly touch the magazine or basically hang relatively free if that makes sense. I find this comfortable, the rifle handles well... it seems to work for me. Is this a God awful practice?
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:50:01 AM EDT
[#1]
It's fine unless your mag/magwell blows up into your hand.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:51:00 AM EDT
[#2]
If it is, I'm just as guilty. I say screw it, it ain't. 
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:51:07 AM EDT
[#3]
It's the same thing I do. <shrug>
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:51:26 AM EDT
[#4]
 Shoot how ever you want |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:51:42 AM EDT
[#5]
I do it.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:51:59 AM EDT
[#6]
I've seen alot of people do it this way. It makes the rifle too front heavy for my tastes though.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:52:08 AM EDT
[#7]
Have seen thousands of GI's do this over the course of 40 years. Cant be that big a deal.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:52:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Thats how I do it.
Never liked the vertical grip no matter how high speed people think it is. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:52:44 AM EDT
[#9]
I do it as well, whetever works as long as you are putting lead down range and on target
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:54:06 AM EDT
[#10]
This topic has been beat to death here multiple times. For the most part the end conclusion is that it is not that bad, but if you do have a bad KB your pinky and ring finger might be a bit sore/missing chunks. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:54:45 AM EDT
[#11]
Ive done it.
I will do it in the future. But I try not to when I think about it. Especially after seeing a rifle shred recievers, split a mag well, and blow chunks of mag, and the rounds in the mag, to hell and back. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:54:52 AM EDT
[#12]
It does make it front heavy on a rifle. A carbine seems to be better. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:55:42 AM EDT
[#13]
I do it as well. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:56:47 AM EDT
[#14]
Fine until you are about 100+ rounds into it and your hands starts to get hot. Putting your arm way out is not comfortable for long periods of time, good thing about the AR is that you can put that grip real far back on your rail and it won't interfere with changing mags like it would on an AK. But if you shooting for an extended period of time it's going to get real hot at the forward part of your upper receiver. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:01:29 AM EDT
[#15]
Seems awkward and less stable to me, but it looks like I'm in the minority.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:03:36 AM EDT
[#16]
Its fine, heck some lowers are being made with "stipiling" on the front side of the lower to accomodate a better grip for folks using this type of front hold...I would recomend wearing gloves with a hold like that though.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:08:06 AM EDT
[#17]
I agree |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:08:22 AM EDT
[#18]
But if the barrel goes south like some of the M4 barrels did when they overheated....you still risk digit damage. I would worry about it unduly.... 
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:09:54 AM EDT
[#19]
I would say that as long your not death gripping the mag itself there shouldn't be an issue.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:10:05 AM EDT
[#20]
When I shoot I usually wear nomex flight gloves, and I don't usually throw a ton of lead down range to the point where it heats up so much that I notice. I don't live in a class 3 state, so I'm not doing auto fire. I had never much thought about the mag blowing out the well. I've never seen it happen, but obviously that doesn't mean it can't happen.
Oh, and I pretty much do this with carbines. I'm not a fan of full length rifles. On my FAL carbine I do use the front stock since the FAL mags rock in and there is no receiver material to grip like an AR. On an AK I also use the front stock for the same reason. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:14:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:15:13 AM EDT
[#22]
I prefer VFGs, but as long as you are holding the magwell and not the mag it shouldn't affect function.
I would be worried more about a KB. However I set up one of my rifles in this manner last night, surefire M3 on the bottom rail mounted pretty far back (it is about as long as the carbine handguard), magwell grip, just push my index knuckle forward and the light activates...pretty nifty 
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:17:39 AM EDT
[#23]
Looks like bad ammo....should have stopped at the start of that problem. I 'm not a big fan of the forward assist for that reason.......if the bolt doesn't close you have a problem. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:18:25 AM EDT
[#24]
That's basically how I was taught to hold an AR-15, to avoid vertical "stringing" caused by inconsistent bending of the barrel.
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:18:46 AM EDT
[#25]
While I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, I would not have kept trying to force that rifle to fire without figuring out why it wasn't. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:19:31 AM EDT
[#26]
I do it, just not all the time though. With my 16" midlength (M4 profile) I hold onto the handguard, on my 16" carbine (superlight) I hold the magwell sometimes.
I only hold it by the well if I am shooting righthanded. If shooting lefty I always hold the handguard. I like to shoot left most of the time just because it is not as natural and I would like to make it so that it is. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:23:23 AM EDT
[#27]
It seems to me that on my 20" HBAR rifle, the little bend between the magwell and the delta ring is right around the balance point of the rifle. I tend to hold there, but I don't grip the magazine however.
Sometimes it is comfortable to balance the rifle there, and it seems to make plinking easier and more comfortable. If I am shooting for accuracy, I can't hold it there however. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:26:19 AM EDT
[#28]
I dont worry about a kaboom when I pull the trigger, but I still wear eye protection. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:32:36 AM EDT
[#29]
 what?!
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:34:11 AM EDT
[#30]
I've only had one go boom on me.....a friends Sten gun running surplus ammo. Half way through a magazine and it squibed and stuck one half way down the barrel. Didn't hurt the receiver, but spllt the barrel right in front of the handguard. |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:36:49 AM EDT
[#31]
I trained that way when I was active and didnt have a grip on my M4.
/shrug |
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