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Posted: 10/8/2007 7:29:10 AM EDT
Of course we all knew the gov't was feeding the same line of BS the last couple years. Funny how politicians and the Mainstream Media STILL throw out that "11-12 million" figure YEARS after it was first used. |
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40 million sounds a little high, but could be.
Funny how every single cow in this country has an ID number but 12% of our population is unaccounted for. |
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...ourselves and our Posterity... |
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Provided there's work that American's won't do....they'll keep on coming....
Don't like illegal immigration? Chances are you won't like the solution either. One thing is for sure, it'll get worse before it gets better. |
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we had conflicting numbers in the Tulsa area for a long time. the powers that be told us that we had between 6 and 11,000. anyone with half brain and that could drive could tell by simple deduction those were bogus. 30% if the drivers you saw were hispanic.
now, suddenly after all this gloom and doom the media is protraying about Oklahomas new immigration laws and the effects, they are saying that 27,000, yes 27,000 have left. the new law isnt even in effect yet. the problem is that we arent noticing any difference in the hispanics we are seeing. 30-50% of drivers we see in midtown and east tulsa are still hispanic. i cna assure you that most are not legal immigrants. |
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OK you are that much of a dumb ass. but enough time wasted on ignorant people like you.. |
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Let me guess:
Sunni versus Shiite is a big deal... Persian versus Arab is a big deal... Western versus Eastern is a big deal... Yet, somehow, the Culture of our Nation is irrelevant? |
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melting pot.. you compare Sunni verus Shiite as if they handle thier diffrences in a manner that you are ok with/ approve of . somehow Im sure you wouldnt mind killing a non-western european .. since hey,, the sunnis do it why cant we? right ? dumbass. pick better examples next time. and who said the Culture of our Nation is irrelevant? do you even understand the Culture of our Nation ? |
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Ah, yes...dispense with the niceties. Please, continue on with whatever you have been brainwashed with growing up as a child. |
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Go away TROLL. You need to recheck your conclusions. |
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hey it was your example. edit.. your Capitol TROLL is not match for my lowercase dumbass. |
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What the fuck are you talking about when you say "it was my example"? |
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I don't think you guys are passionate enough. Can you step it up a little?
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Go ahead and say what you really mean; after all, you said it the first time. If you were really concerned about culture, you wouldn't care where people came from as long as they assimilated - and plenty of hispanics, Asians, and Africans have done just that, becoming culturally similar to those of us who are of that Western European ancestry you so prize. But you're not saying anything about assimilation; you'd rather keep everyone who isn't from Western Europe out, if your earlier post can be believed. |
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you used Sunni verus Shiite as an example of how culture idenity is a good thing,,. or how its OK for other cultures to seperate themselves. well , one of the ways they protect that culture ID is by killing the non shiite or Sunni. like I said.. 1. you dont understand the US culture and.. 2. get better examples. edit: someone beat me to my real point .. your issue is race not culture.. i was gonna try to get that out of YOU ,, but someone messed it up.. |
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Cluster is a Marine .. or was.,,. what now ? seriuosly... I get the in this conversation ? |
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Having trouble deciding? Regardless, you are obviously a tool. |
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oh,., I thaught we disagreed about something,, |
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Or how about I don't want American to be a 90% Hispanic Nation. What is wrong with that?
How would YOU like it if every single one of your neighbors, your Boss, and everyone you work with was a Hispanic from the South? |
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Can you guys get a room together and not dump all over each other here? |
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The point is that for YEARS we've been fed some half-baked estimate of "11-12 million" illegal aliens here - and they're STILL using it when talking about "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" or the DREAM Act or any other AMNESTY sham being foisted on the American CITIZENS.
It's a LIE. It's a deliberate low-ball figure to avoid the astonishing truth of how badly we have allowed our nation and culture to become INVADED by law-breaking foreigners! And no - the 30-40 million illegal foreigners here are NOT assimilating into the "melting pot" of American society. They and their children are NOT putting American-identity first, they are continuing to identify themselves as "Chicano" or "Latino" or "Hispanic" or "MEXICAN" rather than assimilate and be counted as simply "American". |
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Who's counting them?
One person is arguing that their statistical model is better than someone else's. What's the point really? There are way too many illegals here, and we're being as slow as Methuselah to do anything about it. |
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all that needs an ass kicking and a punch to the taco of the first bitch that complains about the ass kicking.. even here when the vet took down the Mexican flag over the US flag .. some people complained aout how it was done,, |
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Wait! A political organization with an axe to grind is producing convoluted statistics?
This just in! The Brady Campaign has damning and TOTALLY unbiased FAKTUEL "statistics" about guns! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG. |
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What basis do you conclude that 20-38 million is a "convoluted" statistic, but the same-old 11-12 million figure they've been using for years now is a more accurate one? INDEPENDANT studies have shown that about 3,000,000 illegal aliens a year come into the country. So if even HALF that number were coming here in the past 5-10 years, that would mean that about 7-14 million NEW illegal aliens have arrived in just the past 5-10 years. Add that to the number already here through the late 80's to mid 90's and that's easily 20-30 million illegal aliens here now... and that's using a very conservative estimate of how many illegals enter every year. |
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Heck, all somebody would have to do is suddenly lock the doors of all the US walmarts and identify the people inside at any random given moment -- there'd be 12 million illegals accounted for right there.
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Back after the 1990 census, there were about 4,000,000 illegals in Texas. Back in 1990. ETA: If you recall, initially Bush was saying that there were only 5,000,000 illegal aliens in the US and he stuck with this number for about two months. He could not possibly have thought that this was correct. I really think that his lies about immigration will be remembered when his mistakes with regard to Iraq are footnotes. |
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Those aren't good numbers. Mexico's population is 120-130 million people, of which 20 million or so are in the US, 3 million legally. There are probably 15,000,000 children of illegal aliens also in the US, and probably 7-8 million OTM illegal aliens. |
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Pretty soon there won't be anyone left who knows how to tell time, much less design, repair or fabricate a clock. |
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You start dating a new girl. She asks you- "How many women have you been with?" Assuming you've been with 20 or more women, do you a. Tell her you've been with 20 women or b. Tell her you've only been with 5 different women The correct answer is "b". Welcome to the Spin Zone. |
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There isn't....some pendejo stole it. |
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