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Posted: 3/11/2006 1:01:03 PM EDT

Anybody have it?

(Actually, I think there are two commercials with them)

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:03:06 PM EDT

[#1]

What?

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:05:05 PM EDT

[#2]

Great commercial!

TAG!

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:06:16 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
What?

Coors commercials with The Duke and The Gunny.

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:06:45 PM EDT

[#4]

tag

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:08:57 PM EDT

[#5]

tag

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:10:41 PM EDT

[#6]

never heard of it

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:11:11 PM EDT

[#7]

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never heard of it

Too busy posting.

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:11:41 PM EDT

[#8]

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What?

Coors commercials with The Duke and The Gunny.

Where those the lame computer generated commercials?

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:13:35 PM EDT

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never heard of it

Too busy posting.

perhaps. i dont watch much TV anyway.... it numbs my brain.

is this a newish commercial?

Posted: 3/11/2006 1:17:37 PM EDT

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is this a newish commercial?

Ten, fifteen years old.

Posted: 3/11/2006 10:44:26 PM EDT

[#11]

They were a tie in with the Coors and John Wayne Cancer Foundation......96/97 or there abouts. Wonder if they might be up on Gunny's site?

Posted: 3/11/2006 11:17:31 PM EDT

[#12]

tag

Posted: 3/11/2006 11:19:05 PM EDT

[#13]

I thought it was early 80s?

I used to have that and the Miami Vice Pepsi commercial that was banned on disc somewhere.

Posted: 3/11/2006 11:24:27 PM EDT

[#14]

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is this a newish commercial?

Ten, fifteen years old.

Here's one of the Duke Coors ads. Not the one you're looking for. These ads were limited to 61 broadcasts so as not to water down the Duke's image.

If I can find the other one I'll post a link.

www.jwaynefan.com/images/gallery/dukecoors.mov

"THE DUKE" returns to star in Coors Light commercial; Computer technology brings back legendary actor John Wayne

Business Wire, May 16, 1996

GOLDEN, Colo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 16, 1996--The legendary action film star John Wayne is back on the screen, and Coors Brewing Company has got him.

In the first and only commercial use of his likeness since 1976, Wayne, or "The Duke" as he is affectionately called by millions of fans, will "star" in a national advertising campaign for Coors Light. The ad is scheduled to break during the season finale of "Friends," Thursday, May 16.

Employing digitized computer technologies similar to those used in the Academy Award-winning film "Forrest Gump," the spot features a cameo appearance by Wayne taken from the 1966 film "Cast a Giant Shadow." In the commercial, a drill sergeant (played by actor R. Lee Ermey of "Full Metal Jacket" fame) questions his platoon to find the person responsible for leaving a six-pack of Coors Light in the barracks.

While interrogating his troops, the sergeant is interrupted by his general, Wayne, who informs him, "It's my beer, Sergeant." The surprised sergeant stammers his apologies and sends the troops off looking for Gen. Wayne's missing pretzels.

The 60-second spot was created by Foote, Cone & Belding, Chicago, and was shot by noted director Joe Pytka. Although the shooting and editing of the commercial with the actors and the John Wayne stand-in took five days, the process of digitally inserting three images of Wayne into the scenes took three labor-intensive weeks.

"We think John Wayne and Coors Light are a great fit," said Peter Coors, Vice Chairman and CEO of Coors Brewing Company. "Both 'The Duke' and the Coors brands are American icons."

In conjunction with the commercial, Coors Light will be making a donation to the John Wayne Cancer Institute (JWCI). In addition, Coors will underwrite production of a JWCI advertising campaign and establish an 800 number for fund-raising purposes.

"The Wayne family and the John Wayne Cancer Institute are very excited about this association with Coors.", said Michael Wayne, JWCI chairman and son of the legendary actor. "Not only is this a unique commercial, but this partnership greatly aids the institute's fight against this horrible disease."

Coors Brewing Company, founded in 1873, is the third largest brewer in the United States. Coors uses only the finest ingredients available in an all-natural brewing process to offer a wide range of high-quality malt beverages.

The Late, Great (and Profitable)

Advertising: Beverly Hills lawyer guards against trademark infringement for heirs of 45 celebrities. Some spots he OKs; tasteless ones don't stand a chance

By: JOHN M. GLIONNA
LA TIMES STAFF WRITER

The image wasn't flattering: There was Albert Einstein himself, the long-deceased father of modern physics, with his head half-shaved, posing as a loopy-looking pitchman for a hair-loss ad in last week's newspaper sports pages.

"It's all relative," read the medical center blurb. "A genius wouldn't buy hair by the graft." Like many readers, Roger Richman spotted the ad, and it didn't take an Einstein to figure out that he wasn't amused. Within days he had composed a hard-edged little missive to the responsible advertising agency:

Pull the ad, he warned, or we'll see you in court.

Call him one of this city's dead-celebrity cops. As the owner of a Beverly Hills-based celebrity licensing agency, Richman polices trademark infringements for the heirs and beneficiaries of 45 deceased figures, from Einstein and Sigmund Freud to W.C. Fields, Rod Serling, Louis Armstrong, Jimmy Durante, Mae West, even the Wright brothers.

Want to sell polyester suits using gumshoe Jack Webb as your model? Go see Richman first. Want to use Groucho Marx to sell cigars? Or Basil Rathbone to hawk magnifying glasses? You got it: Talk to Richman. Show him your idea. Don't insult his delicate sensibilities. Agree to pay him a licensing fee (he gets 35%). And maybe, just maybe, you can do business.

For nearly 20 years, the 53-year-old lawyer and former movie financier has pursued a profession that's considered odd even by Hollywood standards.

From his high-rise office, decorated with a family photo of himself as a baby being held by Einstein (his father was a rabbi who once met the physicist), Richman battles the unauthorized use of his clients' faces, voices--even their signatures.

He also helps decide which advertising opportunities are right for both living and dead clients, and which would soil an image that took a lifetime to develop.

Richman's work never ends. Unauthorized products and ad pitches using celebrity images run from the absurd to the insulting: There's the postcard of a W.C. Fields look-alike posing in the near-nude and greeting cards depicting Judy Garland and Clark Gable in pornographic and sadomasochistic poses.

And there's the coup de grace of bad taste Richman spotted last year in Las Vegas: John Wayne toilet tissue.

Richman and other celebrity-rights proponents argue that the heirs of these late legends have a right to control and benefit financially from the use of their images.

"These people are the most exceptional personalities of our time," he said. "They should be cherished as national treasures and not subject to abuse by being used to sell scatological products or worse."

Some advertisers and manufacturers often beg to differ. For advertisers, dead celebrities are the perfect pitchmen: They don't get arrested or tarnish the image of products like the living do. Those manufacturers who defy Richman say that celebrities become part of the public domain after their deaths and that no one has the right to license their images.

Richman and a growing number of licensing agents have successfully countered that argument.

In 1984, Richman flew to Sacramento with the sons of John Wayne, Harpo Marx and Abbott and Costello and the grandson of W.C. Fields to press legislators for protection of the images of deceased celebrities.

The result was the California Celebrity Rights Act, which forbids the unauthorized use of a celebrity image--including a name, voice, signature, photograph or likeness--without permission of the family for 50 years after the figure's death.

Since then, a dozen states have passed similar laws, protecting Groucho Marx's bushy eyebrows, W.C. Fields' cane, carnation and top hat, Marilyn Monroe's voice--even Einstein's shock of wispy white hair.

"Right of publicity is an asset, a very valuable asset," said attorney Shirley Hufstedler, a former federal secretary of education who now specializes in celebrity rights cases and has represented Richman's licensing agency. "When people create a valuable image by winning the Nobel Peace Prize or by becoming a world-famous athlete, others want to take advantage of that image for their own profit, doing some perfectly dreadful things. But the image doesn't belong to them."

In a time when celebrity images are beamed worldwide by CNN and satellite television, Richman plans to press his battle around the globe--where John Wayne has been used to sell cigarettes in Spain and where Einstein pitches insurance in South Africa.

This month, he's heading to Beijing to sign an agreement with a trading company owned by the Chinese government for selective use of Einstein's image in China.

Richman has agents in 19 countries. Like him, they frequent flea markets, clip newspapers and monitor television and radio in search of unauthorized ads.

Of all his clients, Einstein is the biggest draw. Richman employs nearly a dozen law firms worldwide to police his image. "Einstein has instant recognizability," he said. "I have four attorneys who work nothing else but Albert."

Richman got his start in 1979 after a court decision regarding the estate of film legend Bela Lugosi. The late actor's son had sued Universal Studios for a percentage of the profits made from his image.

The younger Lugosi lost his fight. But the 80-page court decision contained a new interpretation of the law that set Richman thinking: Although the family could not control Lugosi's image, the judges ruled, no one else could appropriate it either--as long as one could show proof that the artists had merchandised themselves while alive.

With that, Richman went to swap meets and garage sales in search of ads stars might have made during their lifetimes. With those in hand, he began his search for unauthorized modern images of dead stars and went after the pirates on behalf of the families.

Early on, at the request of the family of W.C. Fields, Richman successfully pressed the U.S. Postal Service to pay a fee to use the actor's image on a postage stamp.

"We had gone to other agencies to represent W.C., and they acted like it was a foreign concept to protect the dead," said Everett Fields, a Los Angeles attorney and vice president of W.C. Fields Productions. "Roger grasped the idea right away."

While addressing California legislators in 1984, Richman showed how tasteless the image rip-offs can be.

There was the card that included a vial of Elvis Presley's sweat with the pitch "His many years of perspiration can now be your inspiration." There were cards offering snippets of Marilyn Monroe's bedsheet and one featuring a Monroe look-alike showing the late actress dead.

These days, Richman is pushing for federal legislation to guarantee celebrity rights nationwide. And he works to choose ads that lend clients just the right image.

Like John Wayne selling Coors beer, Einstein hawking Apple computers, Steve McQueen modeling leather wear for motorcycles and Audrey Hepburn pushing sunglasses.

Sometimes, large organizations have been willed the estates of dead stars: Richman works with seven charities that handle the estate of Mae West. Einstein's estate is run by Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

"They're choosy," he said. "No alcohol. No cigarettes. No women's hygiene products."

He recently even turned down a fitness center ad showing Einstein's head on a Charles Atlas-type body with the pitch: "An intelligent alternative to exercise."

Still, Richman is proud of such dead celebrity star power that can allow Jack Webb to sell Lotus computer software or Jimmy Durante to pitch Kellogg's cereal.

"The Coors ad was the first commercial use of Wayne's image the family has allowed since his death," he said. "But the ad has been limited to 61 total broadcasts, so as not to dilute the character."

Einstein has had no such luck. Consider the hair loss ad for Sword Medical Center in Torrance.

The agency that produced the ad said it meant no harm. "We did some tests and this ad came out on the top of all the others," said Mark Deo, owner of IT Advertising, who said he would pull the ad. "Albert Einstein has a distinctive face. He gets people's attention.

"But we certainly don't want to offend Mr. Einstein's family. That's the last thing we want to do."
Copyright, 1997, Los Angeles Times. Reprinted by permission.

Posted: 3/11/2006 11:47:22 PM EDT

[#15]

Hmmm...

I too am interested....

Posted: 3/11/2006 11:53:01 PM EDT

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never heard of it

Too busy posting.

perhaps. i dont watch much TV anyway.... it numbs my brain.

is this a newish commercial?

he spelled his name wrong...what a dumb @$$

Posted: 3/12/2006 12:09:34 AM EDT

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Wonder if they might be up on Gunny's site?

I just tried going there, and wanted everyone to know:

R. Lee Ermey's website has THE BEST bar-none site intro on the internet. Watch it!

R. Lee Ermey

Haven't found the commercial yet though. I want to see that, sounds interesting. Is it kinda like what that car company did with Steve McQueen a year or so ago?

Posted: 3/12/2006 4:00:51 AM EDT

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Here's one of the Duke Coors ads. Not the one you're looking for. These ads were limited to 61 broadcasts so as not to water down the Duke's image.

If I can find the other one I'll post a link.

www.jwaynefan.com/images/gallery/dukecoors.mov

Interesting. Thanks for posting it. I've never seen this one. Anyone notice who the two live-action actors were?

Johnny Knoxville and one of the Delta guys from Blackhawk Down!

Posted: 3/12/2006 5:42:04 AM EDT

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Wonder if they might be up on Gunny's site?

I just tried going there, and wanted everyone to know:

R. Lee Ermey's website has THE BEST bar-none site intro on the internet. Watch it!

R. Lee Ermey

Haven't found the commercial yet though. I want to see that, sounds interesting. Is it kinda like what that car company did with Steve McQueen a year or so ago?

Loved the Intro