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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:33:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:42:37 AM EDT
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I hope the guys got out ok. Hard to tell the damage, other than the
track pads and roadwheels burning. It doesn't look like the blast doors blew open. Hope the TC and/or loader were maintaining nametag defilade. 
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:43:06 AM EDT
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I think it is only disabled not really destroyed. They said it had one of its tracks blown off and was on fire, not destroyed.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:51:08 AM EDT
[#3]
Uh, like that's smoke pouring out of the top hatches… |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:52:59 AM EDT
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Heard about it on the news on the drive into work this morning.
They said they didn't know where the crew is. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:53:14 AM EDT
[#5]
It could be the Halon system. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:53:47 AM EDT
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I might be mistaken, but IIRC, it is awfully hard for the driver to escape with the turret in the forward position
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:55:22 AM EDT
[#7]
Yup. We had a driver almost drown at Hood when the tank went nose down into a rain swollen creek.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 3:58:39 AM EDT
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I wonder if it was hit by some of those Iranian-made high-explosive IEDs that are being smuggled in.
As much as I like President Bush and his tough stance on terrorists, when the FUCK are we going to bitch-slap Iran for this? They are state sponsors of terror, are providing weapons to the terrorists in Iraq, and are training and funding them. I thought that meant, according to President Bush, that they are our enemies! |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:02:02 AM EDT
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It was a bomb but no mention what type though. ANdy |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:02:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Apparently it was a VBIED. They could pack a car with plenty of regular explosives. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:09:18 AM EDT
[#11]
What's that? |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:12:26 AM EDT
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We will, but Europe is going to help us on this one especially Germany. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:14:29 AM EDT
[#13]
Vehicle Borne IED. Nuevo-war speak for "A car packed with assloads of explosives." |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:22:26 AM EDT
[#14]
cool, or rather bad. how do you pronounce it? |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:24:35 AM EDT
[#15]
I was thinking it meant Very Big |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:26:01 AM EDT
[#16]
In my unit we just say V-bed.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:26:52 AM EDT
[#17]
"Vee-Bid" AFAIK. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:28:00 AM EDT
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Where did all these IED, VBIED, etc names come from? Didn't we used to call them bombs and car bombs?
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:36:21 AM EDT
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The way it was explained to me, it was a US .mil thing. .mil loves acronyms to classify stuff. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:45:10 AM EDT
[#20]
V-Bed is how we say it. And the military came up with Improvised Explosive Device because like Goon said, they love acronyms. And they arent always "bombs". Sometimes they are land minds, mortars, Katuysa rockets, etc... And yeah, it's Vehicle Borne IED. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 4:53:01 AM EDT
[#21]
The white smoke could be Halon, or white phosphorous grenades placed to destroy the sensetive equipment, IIRC. New paint, a few new computers, and it'll be back to killing jihads in no time.
Kharn |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:52:17 AM EDT
[#22]
FNC said that no one was hurt in the attack.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:57:25 AM EDT
[#23]
What does a Abrams tank cost to make ?
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:57:26 AM EDT
[#24]
Yes, Crew escaped un-injured. (Foxnews.com) |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:04:13 AM EDT
[#25]
Great news!  ANdy |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:06:01 AM EDT
[#26]
one of the TTP's that the insurgents are using is taking old acetylene tanks and packing them with explosive and using those against armored vehicles. when i was over there a tank was completely destroyed by one and a HMMWV was splintered by another. no one was killed in the tank blast but all 5 in the HMMWV were killed.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:08:31 AM EDT
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When they were first made it was under $1.5 million a copy. But that was several years back when they were first coming out. Current REPLACEMENT cost is $4.3 million a copy. www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m1.htm |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:09:58 AM EDT
[#28]
Notice that no-one is dancing on the wreckage this time?
Interesting change if you ask me... |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:27:08 AM EDT
[#29]
Yep thats good. I always wondered why they didn't arrainge for a vehichle to be disabled in an area with pre-positioned shoot teams. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:29:11 AM EDT
[#30]
They have learned to fear this……… 
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:29:14 AM EDT
[#31]
Except the scrawny bastard driving the car. Bahahaha! -EvilJames |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:37:37 AM EDT
[#32]
Suffice to say, they werent in the mood for dancing once the Hydras and HE rounds start landing.  Kharn |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:38:30 AM EDT
[#33]
You must get the same effect as the scene in Private Ryan when the American troops are on the tank the Germans open up with the 20mm. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:15:40 AM EDT
[#34]
I glad they got out uninjured, but that looks like smoke coming outta the TC's and Loaders hatch. They musta got smacked by some seriouse ordinance if the insides on fire
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:18:49 AM EDT
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The real beauty is that Fox is reporting "no injuries".
If so, then the M1 did its job. There will be a replacement available in 24 hours. DATS take a few months just to learn to pronounce "Abrams". 
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:23:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Insides might not be on fire. It could be the fire suppression system. But there is a chance that something got through both bulkheads and in the crew compartment. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 8:12:34 AM EDT
[#37]
DATS, lol. I haven't been called that in 25 yrs. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 10:05:46 AM EDT
[#38]
Or the burning tracks heated up the hull (no penetration) and everything rubber or plastic started burning on the inside. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 10:10:38 AM EDT
[#39]
and ARFCOM doesnt? IBTL IBTL AWOB TEOTWAWKI SHTF it's just the language of the culture |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 11:08:27 AM EDT
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DAMN
I find out today that that tank in the pic is the tank of a good friend and student of mine. He is a 1st Lt. and is a tank commander in charge of several other tanks. The explosions hit his tank and set it ablaze. Everyone got out fine and without injury. He wrenched his knee jumping off the tank. The explosion was strong enough to rock another tank next to his and a soldier in it had his shoulder seperated. No casualties thank God. Thank you guys for serving and keep safe. |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 11:25:53 AM EDT
[#41]
great news that the crew got out uninjured. Are we sure it was an IED? Could have been the unfortuanate side effects of three guys locked in a small space after a big meal of mexican food or something.
I've seen scouts come pouring out of a tent that was smoking like that......  glad they're oK though. Can't wait till they get their payback |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 11:34:43 AM EDT
[#42]
No casualties: www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1590086.php. 
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Posted: 3/12/2006 11:40:20 AM EDT
[#43]
I read an DOD report about the invasion and the tank hits on our side.
Not a single M1 was destroyed by a RPG or anything for that matter. There were a half dozen that were disabled, but not destroyed, the most dangerous thing was the risk of fire and the engine going up in flames for a fire. They feared of losing a disabled Abrams during a heavy fight outside of Btown, so they shot a SABOT into the engine bay, and an A10 launched TWO maverick AGM at it, and one thermite gerenade in the interior to finish the job. |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 9:36:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Let's be careful talking about stuff like this please. Thanks. |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 9:50:51 PM EDT
[#45]
Why? Absolutely no OPSEC issues in his post. It's not exactly a stunning revelation that packing a couple of hundred kilos of military grade explosives in a large container can pretty easily destroy a tank and a HMMVW. |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 9:53:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2006 10:12:31 PM EDT
[#47]
That's fuckin beautiful Would bring a tear to my eye.
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Posted: 3/12/2006 11:13:12 PM EDT
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I agree, there's nothing too remarkable with his post. However, I cringed when I saw his post started with, "One of the [enemy] TTP's..." I just hope no one relates an experience they had over there in too much detail, along the lines such as, "enemy IEDs constructed with two Klingon type-42 photon torpedoes using a Cardassian Obsidian-7 bioprobe sensor, usually give off 20-percent tackion emissions which were easily detected by the Buffalo's main deflector array when power was rerouted into the dilithium crystals of its warp core." |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 11:21:56 PM EDT
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People in military related things sit around and come up with acronyms sometimes. I know this, for I have done it. Sat there while three other guys (and a befuddled me) sat there trying to come up with an acronym to describe a project who's name was in fact an acronym.
They had things like this happen: www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/jungle-law.htm
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Posted: 3/12/2006 11:24:53 PM EDT
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Nah, they could only be detected when we reversed the polarity of the WARLOCK allowing it to detect the tackion emissions subspace signature  - but that's all open-source info.
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