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Quoted: Just off the top of my head without reading more of the site, I'm not sure I'ld believe it any more than a lot of what I believe here. Probably fits between here and DU on believability.
Were they siezed as evidence? were they confiscated, were they receipted? Once the case is adjudicated in a real court and not the tinfoil court of the underinformed on the internet we can decide to get excited. If you recall a few months ago when all the crybabies went running around bitching about confiscation, etc, etc theft, stealing, blah blah blah, they trial went in the owenrs favor and he got everything back.. And yah no what I don't recall that he bitched about fingerprints.\, etc
this reminds me of all the guys that say the pilot got away with not paying income taxes. They kind of forget to mention that although she was found not criminally guilty on a filing irregularity, they conveniently forget to mention that the government won the following civil suit and she does in fact owe themoney and is having it garnished.
Yah wanna get excited about something, wait until it is over and you know the full story. Going off half cocked at the beginning just wastes your energy.
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Nice.
They really did take the receivers and it is unclear at this time if people will ever get their property back.
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Define "take" what legal process did they use? That can tell you what the future may hold. If it was handled as "contraband" you probably can kiss it good-bye if it stays "contraband". If it wasn't "contraband" and "seized" as evidence and the legal process grinds out and it is adjudged as legal, then you are going to get it back. (
Contraband - Say you get caught with marijuana but it was a bad search and the case gets thrown out, you don't get the marijuana back.
Evidence - You run over a jaywalker, and it is determined that he was drunk and ran out in front of you. After the trial if it goes that far, you get your car back.
unclear at this time get property back. So in other words, the full story is still not known and going off hald cocked is not useful to anybody.
Find out what the legal status is, have you contacted a lawyer? is it your property legally? Did you give consideration contractually? Did the other party fail to honor his side of the contract? did you pay by credit card? contest the credit card? cash? you went into the deal with your eyes open knowing that any time the DoJ could shit on it? and they did?
of the apparently several thousand other lowers that came in how many of them were seized? why was this one of the few if only seizures? What caused them to focus on this dealer as opposed to any or all of the others? (I sure hope the answer is these were from mfrs already on the list in some way)
So has anybody brought suit against the DoJ for return of their property? The wheels turn slowly, get your ducks in a row and get the ball rolling, you are at the beginning of the fight. Pearl Harbor and the Fall of the Philippines it isn't but nobody surrendered the whole war at that point either.
If it turns out to be a gamble and you lost and lose the receivers, I will cry over a beer or two with you. If it turns out to be a gamble and you won but don't get the receivers back, then I'll be throwing some big bucks in to help get them back. If it's a gamble, and you win and get them back, then I'll hoist a few with you.