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Posted: 1/10/2006 5:34:59 AM EDT
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Looks like more and more cases of the bird flu are starting to 'jump'. |
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True, but it is the strain that is starting to spread into the human race that is concerning. More and more cases being reported as time goes along. |
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Rivers and seas boiling! 40 years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanos. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats, living together... mass hysteria!
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Did anyone else read the name of the village as "dog biscuit"?
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As soon as we cases of person to person transmission I will really worry.
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I'll be stopping by Turkey later this month. Anyone want me to bring them some back? |
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Kenny: The Sky is falling!
Cartman: No stupid, that's just bird shit.. Hey, you don't think it had the avian flu, do ya? huh? Do ya? |
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That movie has more "one liners" than should be allowed. I always think of that line, every time someone starts in about TEOTWAWKI. |
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oh noes!!!!1!!1 it's like sars all over again! the world will end!!! fuck!
i call bullshit on all thid bird flu hype. it's just the media trying to make a few bucks. |
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i didn't know what movie that was from but found the sound bite from it. click |
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LOL Outstanding. |
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Not African swallows. |
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The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land? (that reminds me to change my sig) |
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Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate? |
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Well, I still remember stories my Grandpa would tell about the 1918 Influenza Pandemic. Our Society, as it is today, could not handle an outbreak even a tenth as bad as that was. The Weather Service predicts 3 inches of Snow and people panic. What do you think will happen when the Sheeple are told that 1 in 10 may get sick and die???? |
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The ABC news site this morning had a little line on the crawler. "Asian bird flu not as serious a threat as previously thought."
The tinfoil guys are going to have to find another hysteria to latch on to. |
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Not at all. They could be carried |
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"How is it you've come to know so much about swallows?" As to the bird flu: Respirator masks: Check Hand sanitizer: Check Guns and ammo: Check I'd rather it didn't happen but... I've done what I can. |
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What? A swallow carring a cocounut? |
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however, after seeing some of the stuff that happened last year, i decided that i wouldn't be one of those helpless sheeple. i stay prepared for whatever may happen. |
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The Spanish Flu killed more than 50 million people worldwide.....675,000 in the US. And this was a time when the world was barely interconnected. |
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If it was on ABC news, it must be true. Still, John, my TEOTWAWKI scenario starts with all the pr0n being mysteriously wiped from my hard drive........ |
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It could grip it by the husk! |
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So this is how the zombie invasion will begin. Get ready boys....
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Is not a question of where he grips it! Its a simple question of weight raitos! A five ounce bird can not carry a one pound cocounut. |
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Off the shelf 'hand sanitizer' is pretty much usless. Common house hold Bleach will kill most anything. |
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wake me up when the hype is over and it starts to become a real threat. |
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I'll start to worry when that happens. When the first human cases appear in the US, then I'll start to panic. When we have cases in all fifty states, then it'll be time for us to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside. |
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So how many people does the regular old flue kill every year? Yeah we need to do something about the media scare tactics. |
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Nice list. Forgot food, water, genset and gasoline. Get your own - don't come looking to take mine. |
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a list of ifs... if bird flu hops and is as virulent as 1918 flu was it has been calculated that it will kill 3,000,000 in the US. 1918 flu has been indentified as a variant of an avian flu. BUT.. it must jump and mutate and maintain a virulence equivalent to the 1918 spannish flu. No one knows how it will go until it happens.. BTW, the h5n1 variant has a mortality rate of between 65 and 70 percent.. |
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It kills a hell of a lot. A 9 year old with asthma for example. LOTS of elderly. |
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I'm sure there are several people who get stuck in them. I doubt many die though. |
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im still in my bunker from last years "SARS TEOTWAWKI "
and im running out of tinfoil!! HELP MR OBI ONE! YOUR MY ONLY HOPE! |
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Where's Sweep? He's probably got some stories. |
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Yeah, but NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INFLUENZA! |
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I left that off. Don't forget a stash of rubber gloves too |
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Really? Good to know. Good thing I have bleach too then! |
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Does this mean that I should order more ammo?
(That's a rhetorical question) |
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I order more ammo if the temperature outside makes me nervous. |
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There was a news article on Yahoo yesterday saying that a study in Vietnam showed that a lot of people had been infected and survived. the problem is, the only cases in which {people go to the hospital, get tested for the H5N1 virus, and get labeled a "confirmed case" by the World Health Org} are the severe cases where the person is at death's door. I mean, in the U.S., if you get the sniffles, do you go see the doc? I never did. It's different in some countries (Taiwan's socialized medical system is overwhelmed by geezers with nothing better to do than go wait in a hospital to whine at a doc for ten minutes every two or three days), but in third-world places like Vietnam, someone who did that would probably get shot as a lazy running-dog counterrevolutionary who is trying to bring down world socialism. Anyway, the article went into methodology a little bit, and it wasn't rigorous, but it strongly suggested that H5N1 is already widespread in rural third-world countries, infecting lots of people who have small flocks of poultry, and that most cases are the typical "three days of sneezing" that we see in most influenzas.
One issue is, the H5N1 flu seems to cause a "cytokine storm" in the immune system, which is worse for healthy people than it is for people with weakened immune systems. |
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So, logicakiely, if bird flu weights the same as a duck. |
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The regular flu kills tens of thousands of people every year in the United States, according tot he CDC. |
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Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right? In the meantime, here's a linky on the flu related death trend..it's going up, not down. www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/07/health/main535605.shtml There may be some hype about the bird flu, and it still has to go through several more mutations before it comes close to becoming the human-to-human world ender that it *could* become...but a pandemic along the lines of what happened in 1918 would be a life changing experience for the entire country. That's nothing to sneeze at (groan...a bad pun, but what the hey, it was there). I've said this before...our medical system is simply not designed to handle the millions of sick people we'd be seeing if this turned into a full blown pandemic. A medium sized earthquake or other natural disaster, where there's only a few hundred/thousand extra patients, can still stretch local hospital/doctor capacity. Project that out to the millions, and the picture's not very rosy...the economy will go right down the shitter for a start.. Even if the bulk of the projected 2 or 3 million deaths arent' from the workforce, you still have family members who have to stay home and care for their kids, spouses, and/or parents. Just look at what a mess we had with Hurrican Katrina...do you think local .govs in places like Detroit and DC are gonna be any better prepared than New Orleans?? I don't know about Detroit, but DC is gonna be fooked lol...this is the same city that re-elected Marion Barry for God's sake. It most likely won't happen this year...it might not happen for another 200 years...but it WILL happen. Whether it's the flu, an airborne filovirus a la The Hot Zone, or something we haven't even seen yet...it's out there, and it's COMING dun dun duh...(cue the spooky music ) |
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Listen, in order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings 43 times every second, right? |
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The HN51 virus is now being passed only from birds to humans. Once the virus has a human host, it is a roll of the dice from then on. One protein here, one amino acid here, and you have on bad ass bug. I am not worried yet, but I am paying attention. Imagine how hard masks and respirators will be to get if the US becomes infected.
If the bird flu reaches here and stays in poultry, imagine the economic results of millions of birds being destroyed. Bye, Bye to chicken nuggets and such. One would be a fool to ignore this, just have a plan in cause the HN51 does mutate. |
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Just checking. |
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