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Posted: 1/7/2006 7:51:29 PM EDT

Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:53:12 PM EDT

[#1]

I think people here need to focus on more basic problems like the words, "to/too" and "loose/lose". We're working up to complicated grammar and English in steps.

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:53:13 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

Grammar...and you got the makings of a great gay joke there somewhere

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:54:36 PM EDT

[#3]

Basically with proper names, you can spell your name 'S-H-I-T" and pronounce it Joe.

SG

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:55:26 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

Perhaps from Jacob?

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:55:53 PM EDT

[#5]

Richard--->Rich--->Rick--->Dick...

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:56:20 PM EDT

[#6]

Hmm. Jake and Jack from Jacob.

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:57:30 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

I pronounce Thames as Tems.

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:59:16 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

But how the hell do you get Jack

I have NEVER understood that !!!

I think it happens in families where there is more than one John, maybe ??

Posted: 1/7/2006 7:59:42 PM EDT

[#9]

At least they start with the same letter.

I could never figure out how one got from "Margaret" to "Peggy".

Posted: 1/7/2006 8:00:11 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

The name "Jack" is probably derived from "Jacob" (via the French "Jacques"). Alternatively, it may be derived from "Jankin" meaning literally "Little John". The surname "Jenkins" also derives from "Jankin". Looking up "Jack" and related words in the dictionary is very interesting ("jack-ass", and "jack-rabbit" for instance), but ultimately unsatisfying. Webster's dictionary states that it means "a man" or alternatively "an object or device". This seems to cover most things. Brewers dictionary of phrase and fable adds
"Jack-a-Lent. A half-starved, sheepish booby. Shakespeare says: "You little Jack-a-lent, have you been true to us?" (Merry Wives of Windsor, iii. 3.) A kind of Aunt Sally which was thrown at in Lent. (See Cleveland's Poems [1660], p. 64.)"

Posted: 1/7/2006 8:01:57 PM EDT

[#11]

It's algebra:

John / 5 (3.14) A - [sum= Q *A2] sq^3 / (87) = Jack...
duh

Posted: 1/7/2006 8:06:06 PM EDT

[#12]

Blame the French. Jacques = John in French, and you can probably figure out Jack from Jacques.

Posted: 1/7/2006 8:08:44 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Blame the French. Jacques = John in French, and you can probably figure out Jack from Jacques.

last name = Meeoff

Posted: 1/7/2006 8:09:58 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Blame the French. Jacques = John in French, and you can probably figure out Jack from Jacques.

last name = Meeoff

or Strapp

Posted: 1/7/2006 9:26:00 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

I pronounce Thames as Tems.

So do most Brits, but in Connecticut they call it the "Thames"

And then there is Athol, Massachusetts and the Athol Highlanders who wear their Atholl bonnets, but we won't go there today.

As far as Jack and John are concerned, hey this is the English language and English names we're talking about. Neither have made a lot of sense in centuries. It's been a nickname for centuries, just like "Peg" or Peggy" are nicknames for Margaret

English has to be one of the most screwy languages around.

Posted: 1/7/2006 10:15:06 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

Grammar...and you got the makings of a great gay joke there somewhere

I think its queer when people insist on using names like Timothy instead of Tim or Michael instead of Mike or Steven instead of Steve. You get the idea. If you use the long version of one of those types of names you are most likely gay and suffer from a condition known as Homoerectis. The wang is hugeified not by a woman but by a man.

Posted: 1/7/2006 10:20:04 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Quoted:

But how the hell do you get Jack

I have NEVER understood that !!!

I think it happens in families where there is more than one John, maybe ??

You are spot on!!!! I come from a family of three John's, I am called Jack by my close family so as not to cause confusion. My GrandDad's nick name was Jack, so I think it's an honor to by my nickname, my Granddad was an Iwo Jima Vet.

Posted: 1/8/2006 9:50:31 AM EDT

[#18]

I think its queer when people insist on using names like Timothy instead of Tim or Michael instead of Mike or Steven instead of Steve. You get the idea. If you use the long version of one of those types of names you are most likely gay and suffer from a condition known as Homoerectis. The wang is hugeified not by a woman but by a man.

I go by either, but I think it's the ghey when somebody runs there mouth about someone and doesn't know them.

Michael

Posted: 1/8/2006 10:07:29 AM EDT

[#19]

The connection between Jack and John is lost, likewise, Margaret and Peggy. I think they are the real basis for existentialism, and affirm "existence is prior to essence"

Posted: 1/8/2006 10:22:31 AM EDT

[#20]

Here in NYC there is street called Houston. The thing is, the retards up here pronounce it "How-ston"

Anyone know why?

Posted: 1/8/2006 10:32:37 AM EDT

[#21]

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Here in NYC there is street called Houston. The thing is, the retards up here pronounce it "How-ston"

Anyone know why?

I think Houston has been spelled Howston also, hence the different pronunciations. Check out Georgia, they pronounce it different too.

gagen.i-found-it.net/houston.html

ETA, SOHO, the area in New York, is shorthand for "South of Houston Street"

Tribeca is shorthand for "Triangle below Canal"

Posted: 1/8/2006 10:53:51 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
You are spot on!!!! I come from a family of three John's, I am called Jack by my close family so as not to cause confusion. My GrandDad's nick name was Jack, so I think it's an honor to by my nickname, my Granddad was an Iwo Jima Vet.

Its definitely a family thing, every branch of my family has either the first or second-born son named John or Jon.

My dad was John the IV, everyone calls him Jack. I was also named John, but with a different middle name (Andrew), so everyone called me Andy until high school, now I stick with John since its less childish.

Kharn

Posted: 1/8/2006 11:55:53 AM EDT

[#23]

AFAIK it's because John in French is Jacque, prounced pretty much like "Jack" with a little different character to the "a" sound.

Posted: 1/8/2006 12:07:21 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
Ok Grammer Nazis and ppl who know about English.

There is a river in England called the Thames. But its pronouced 'Tims'

And there are lots of ppl named James, and we nickname them Jim.

But how the hell do you get Jack out of John or Jonathan?

You cough.

Quoted:
AFAIK it's because John in French is Jacque, prounced pretty much like "Jack" with a little different character to the "a" sound.

John is Jean

Posted: 1/8/2006 12:32:42 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Here in NYC there is street called Houston. The thing is, the retards up here pronounce it "How-ston"

Anyone know why?

Probably the same reason RODEO drive in Kalifornia is pronounces "row-day-oh"

No Expert

Posted: 1/8/2006 4:20:35 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Here in NYC there is street called Houston. The thing is, the retards up here pronounce it "How-ston"

Anyone know why?

Probably the same reason RODEO drive in Kalifornia is pronounces "row-day-oh"

No Expert

Rodeos in most of California are pronounced that way. There is some reason for it but I can't remember what it is.

Posted: 1/8/2006 4:24:06 PM EDT

[#27]

crazyquik is also know as beerbelly scratchinbutt.

Posted: 1/8/2006 11:16:21 PM EDT

[#28]

Because Rodeo is pronounced roedayoh (actually almost roetheyoh) in spanish and that particular road (assuming you mean Rodeo Dr/Rd in the west LA area) was once associated with where they held rowdayohs in the old days.

Most but not all spanish names for cities, towns, streets etc are pronouced correctly by the rules of spanish pronunciation Vowels being a=ah, e=ay (as in hay), i=ee, o=oh, u=ooh. Los, as in Los Angeles, Los Robles is often pronounced Lahs instead of Loes.

I have a friend whose last name is Hough and she has found 7 different ways her name could be correctly pronounced in English. how, who, huff, hoe, hugh, ow, hug

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