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Posted: 1/4/2006 8:55:29 AM EDT
And in my town, no less. w00t!
In this story, DeKyle's girlfriend gets in on the act...
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I was just at a party that was 90% Largo cops at a private residence. It was extremely tame.
ETA- The Green Iguana OTOH is a major party bar. |
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That was hot. To bad there isn't any vid of this to post on the net.
PS: Are they hot? |
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I've been to the Green Iguana, have the shirt.
That's a bullshit firing. |
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I think these Women Should get together with the Minnesota Vikings and have a Party! |
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Yup. Department politics. |
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I called a friend of mine to find out... |
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It would seem so to me too--with the possible exception of the mention of past disciplinary problems. More to the story perhaps? |
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Sounds like an episode of RENO 911, right down to the cops driving around under the influence of alcohol and getting a free pass when pulled over. How many people get the option of being allowed to just not drive anymore or switch drivers like stated in the article ?
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If they were off duty and out of uniform, I don't see how it has any bearing on their job. If I go out and bang a hooker over the weekend, does that mean my job at the accounting firm is going to get rid of me?
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I've NEVER, EVER seen a hot lesbian cop. |
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There's always a first time. |
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Yes, but what are the odds of them BOTH being hot? VERRRRRY small... |
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"The real shame is that she's an extremely talented officer," Carroll said.
I'll bet. |
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Amazing how often those things coincide, could it be that the superiors demonstrated very little to respect, like playing office politics too much? |
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Oh please this was is completely justified. Letting a subordinate lick whipped cream off your chest is not acceptable… PERIOD. ETA: Substitute a male officer having a subordinate female do a similar thing then imagine that reaction. Unacceptable either way. |
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It is if I order her to do it. And she better have the maid outfit on too. |
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Lemme get this straight:
SHE has 3 write ups over 23 years, finalized by a few beers and being silly with whipped cream, off duty, among friends. She is fired. HE, being the boyfriend, is also a cop. He drives drunk, and is allowed to be a passenger in anything other than the back of a squad car, and can return to work. What kind of fucked of police policies is that? OK for a cop to drive drunk, but whipped cream in a public place off duty is grounds for dismissal with 3 write ups over 23 frigging years. I, as a citizen, not feel much safer that cops can drive drunk, as long as they do not cut loose and enjoy themselves BTW: This is not directed at anyone here. Every cop I have spoken with here on this board abhors drunks and driving drunk, and would have locked his ass up and had HIM fired. I respect the officers here I have spoken with, but that town seems to be like an accident waiting to happen. |
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"Professional courtesy" this needs linked to another thread... |
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Sure, it is. Yeah. Supervisors and subordinates just 'hanging out' together is no big deal, at all. How could public confidence be shaken when they see how well these folks all get along together? Eric The(Yeah,Yeah)Hun |
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If he was DUI he should have been arrested. I have stopped people who have been drinking but not DUI (in my opinion) and the driver/passenger swap spots. |
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If it becomes public knowledge, I'd recommend that you start brushing up the old resume.... Accounting firms are like that. As are law firms, and other folks who worry about public perception of their professionalism. Eric The(WatchYourAssInOtherWords)Hun |
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That female sergeant is an IDIOT. She made her bed, now she can lay in it.
Period. |
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But she admitted earlier:
Unless she was a fatso, she was over the (0.08) limit (4 drinks in 4 hours) BAC Calculator 3 beers @ 12% + 1 Jagermeister @ 70 proof - (ETA: over 4 hours from 10PM to the 2AM stop) Weights assuming 120 pounds, BAC = 0.1063 assuming 130 pounds, BAC = 0.0929 assuming 140 pounds, BAC = 0.0814 This is the sort of thing that drives folks nuts (seeing preferential treatment due to "professional courtesy". Enforce the laws equally, or not at all. |
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Fatso? Maybe, probably. But then again, she could be 5'8"+ 140-160 lbs on someone that tall doesn't a fatso make. |
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Allowing the person to go cant be chalked up to just "professional courtesy". I, along with practically every officer I've worked with, has stopped someone that was intoxicated and not taken them to jail for DWI. Many situations come into play. The people chalking it up solely to "professional courtesy" are just hyping themselves up for the typical turn this thread will soon be taking (like every other thread about law enforcement on here)
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It also presumes she was being truthful with how much she drank. Ask any officer how much the standard DUI stop suspect claims to have drunk (I'll take "2 or 3 beers" for $200 Alex) - then amazingly blow a 0.20. Some LE on this very board have argued that impairment begins even lower than the official 0.08, I won't name names, or mention they are from Austin. So if this is really about "the safety of the public", should she really have been put behind the wheel, and if the original driver was deemed too blotto, wouldn't he have also been a hazard even as a passenger (he might have ralphed all over the inside of the windshield, obscuring vision, and potentially causing the vehicle to careen into a busload of orphans and nuns. |
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I'm sorry, if you are going to have hard physical limits for intoxication, then enforce them equally. Period. |
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May God bless you sir. |
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Not arguing with ya, just sayin.... |
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Quit. Merrell would rather bash cops. |
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Ok, that is a fair explanation, but why did he pull them over in the first place? Driving erratically? Then you find two officers in the car? That doesn't piss you off?, as an officer? |
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Yeah, well ..... I want to know where those pictures are |
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We don't know what either of thes officers blew that night, we can only presume that, unless licking whipped cream off of each other is SOP in the LE community, that the Sgt. was a little tipsy, and her boyfriend was tipsy enough to get pulled over for suspicion of DUI, and they probably got a wink and a nod from Soto and were sent along the way. Were they drunk enough to be a hazard? According to the law (0.08), probably, according to your seasoned judgment (and likely that of the officer who stopped them, and maybe the judgment of the normal guy on the street, probably not. That's the problem with arbitrary laws designed to curry favor with soccer moms. Back in the 50's (I think, might have been late 40's) they established DUI at 0.15 and it has been sliding downward ever since (and will not stop until it is a European-like 0.02) - great source of revenue, but with limited real effects on safety. If the courtesy that you demonstrate was applied by all officers, don't believe we would be having this discussion. Some are more "gung-ho" than others. |
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Only ones with kinky neighbors... |
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interesting story. Let me know if more news are made from it. I'm wishy washy on my reaction. I don't think her behavior was appropriate - however if she was off duty, out of uniform and there's no company policy about dating subordenents and she's been a good cop for 23 years [I'm sorry about 4 complains in 23 years is pretty good for a woman considering she PMSes 12 times a year times 23 ]
Patty |
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Irresponsible, yeah sure. Worth firing her over for celebrating a friend's birthday with some whipped cream, not at all. Last I knew, that wasn't illegal. So, if she was abiding by the law while off duty, where does the department get off firing her?
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I think the firing was BS. I'm just arguing about the stop. |
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Most departments have some sort of "conduct that brings discredit onto the dept." policy. It's a handy political tool that get's abused too often in many places. |
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Maybe the story isn't the greatest example, but hanging out with a sgt is pefectly fine and actually builds more unity with the "crew". My old dept was waaaay less catty than mine now. There was no BS goin on. 1st tues of every month we'd all go out & tip some back with sarge. |
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