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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:16:15 PM EDT
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I have two of them in one of my safes. They work great--but only as long as you have a hole sufficient to allow the moist air to escape. This could compromise your fire protection.
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:18:24 PM EDT
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Got one in my safe, works great.
Beekeeper, not sure what you mean by allowing the moist air to escape, the rod dries any moisture in the air. Correct me if I'm wrong. Bill3508 |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:28:32 PM EDT
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Water does not disappear when it is acted upon by the heat from the goldenrod--it must go somewhere. Here's how it works--the GR is nothing but a low-wattage heater. Whatever the ambient temp of the room may be is elevated slightly within the safe, thus created a tiny bit of pressure, and lower relative humidity. Warmer air can hold more water than cooler air, thus the same amount of water in the air within the safe becomes a lower relative humidity, thus producing a condition where any moisture evaporates and is held in the air. The slightly pressurized air holding the excess moisture must be able to escape on an ongoing basis in order to maintain a low relative humidity, which is less conducive to rust. A GR DOES NOT prevent rust or guarantee no rust--it only makes conditions less conducive to rust on an ongoing basis. This all came from the company who manufactures the Golden Rods--at least the principle; the words are mine. |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:32:11 PM EDT
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I have one but last time i checked it quit
I never replaced it has been 4 years now and no rust of course YMMV |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:33:37 PM EDT
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IBTGJ - In Before The Gay Jokes.
Have another brand. |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:42:03 PM EDT
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I've never needed anything like that. I maintain my weapons properly & store them with a light coat of oil. My opinion might change if I lived on Bayou, however.
But it never hurts to be safe rather than sorry. |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:44:07 PM EDT
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I just view them as cheap insurance. <shrug> |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:52:17 PM EDT
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I use several of the big silica bags, i bought enough to cover twice the amount needed for my safe. no problems here, plus when there full i just dry them in an oven. and re use em!
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:55:57 PM EDT
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You mean you're being safe rather than sorry?  I have a number of friends & a couple of relatives who use dehumidifiers. Sure, I believe them when they tell me they're worth the money & effort to put in. But since I've yet to experience any sort of oxidation during storage in my 25 years of firearm ownership, I figured...nah. Maybe I'm just lucky. |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:57:25 PM EDT
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i once read somewhere that a golden rod removes some of the fire protection. the way it does that is by drying out the fire insulation, which helps keep the temp down during a fire by off gassing any water in the fire lining
now i would love to see what if any difference a gallon jug or 2 in the safe would do for temps in the safe during a fire. you would figure that the water would start absorbing any heat about 212 in the safe by boiling off and excaping out of the safe, which is basicly what the fire lining does |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:00:38 PM EDT
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Where on the safe does this hole reside? I am looking into safes and need to know what to look for. Brian |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:01:39 PM EDT
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That what my ladyfriend calls my....
Oh were talking safes. I have some box that remington sells. Once the silcon beads turn pink you plug it and dry it out. My safe is in a very humid basement and rust was a real problem till i got this. 
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:04:49 PM EDT
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That particular safe is a Browning--and it has a threaded hole top-center with a large bolt, apparently for this purpose. I removed the bolt, ran a cord in, wired a double outlet box, and plugged in two GRs and two lights. As heat rises I would think this is a good place for the hole. |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:06:30 PM EDT
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I used one while living up in Everett WA - my gun safe was out in the garage and I had nothing rust in the years there.
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:13:50 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info. I appreciate it!  Brian |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:15:13 PM EDT
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The guns that will fit in a silicone treated gun sock are stored in a silicone treated gun sock. Everything else gets wiped down at least once a week with a silicon rag. I try and shoot at least once a week, and I rotate my guns pretty regularly so each gun usually gets cleaned at least once ever couple months.
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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:23:09 PM EDT
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I have one.
After four years in a humid basement, no rust. |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 9:14:36 PM EDT
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I have two, a 12" in my safe & 36" one I put under my covered motorcyclye in the winter. The only hole in my safe (Liberty) is on the back for the cord to go through. The moisture that escapes from the safe is pushed out through the gap between the door & the door frame. Your safe will not be air tight, so you don't need a special hole for the moisture to escape. Also fire protection is not affected, in the event of a fire the seal around the door expands, sealing the interior. I got a good deal on the GoldenRods, something like $29.00 for the 36" one, can't remember how much for the 12". I can't remember where I got them from right now, I'll do some looking & edit this post later. hk45shooter ETA: I bought them from www.midsouthshooterssupply.com. I don't know how to do a direct link to the GoldenRods, so you'll have to look around. |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 3:39:17 AM EDT
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Been using one for about 12 years with great results.
(I'm wondering if it's getting time to replace it?) The gun locker is in a family room that has a dehumidifier in it. The dehum gets about 5 gallons a week of water out of the air in that room. No rust on any guns in the cabinet for all these years. I even put some guns in my cabinet that had previous rust problems. I cleaned them up, oiled them, and put them in the locker with the Golden Rod. No rust in 10+ years. |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 4:10:42 AM EDT
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I live on the gulf coast (high humidity) and I've been using silica bags for the past 2 yrs. I have two bags in my Cannon safe which is 36" x 60" x 24". No problems here.
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Posted: 1/4/2006 4:34:34 AM EDT
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I live in relatively balmy (or is it barmy?) New England, and with my gun cabinet, I still need two small dehumidifiers going or my basement turns to mold and mildew city. It's not E.Texas or S. Louisiana, but it gets very humid like there in the summer here. But none of my stored guns have rusted, save a Mosin-Nagant, whose bore turns VERY brown if I don't lube it every few weeks. |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 5:15:18 PM EDT
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I use one in a basement safe works great.
Midwayusa.com is running them on sale now. |
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