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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:48:16 PM EDT
They could recoup millions of dollars in doing so, instead they spend money to destroy them. They could easily be shipped back over here and demilled into kits. Many collectors would pay top dollar for an Iraqi Tabuk AK or the many other versions over there. Discuss.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:49:34 PM EDT
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Dude! You like guns? Guns kill people and are icky!
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:50:15 PM EDT
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because most of those weapons are automatic, and "We the People" do not have the right to bear those types of arms.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:50:27 PM EDT
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Its cheaper for them to blow them up on site, denying their use to insurgents. The last thing the .gov is going to think about is US collectors.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:50:31 PM EDT
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Yeah! There would be no administrative concerns with a venture like that!
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:50:31 PM EDT
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'n stuff! |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:50:42 PM EDT
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Because the military mission does not include "send various and sundry weapons back to US for distribution among various weapons kit wholesalers."
It's a fucking WAR not a God-damned scavenger hunt!!! |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:51:48 PM EDT
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I really wish they could do that, I REALLLLLLY do. but could you imagine the headlines?
"FULLY AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUNS BEING STOLEN FROM IRAQIS ARE BEING SOLD BY THE GOVERNMENT IN THE US!!!!!!!!!!!" tahts the last kind of publicity we need. Although i would LOVE to have an IRAQI AK............. |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:53:15 PM EDT
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I've never seen any of them, but being from a 3rd world country, I would surmise that those guns would probably be in pretty poor condition, barring those confiscated from Saddam himself.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:53:48 PM EDT
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What I want to know is why we mare blowing up seized weapons with one hand and then buying new AKs for the Iraqi security forces with the other.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:53:58 PM EDT
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just imagine the fits that the Brady's would go into. 
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:54:12 PM EDT
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what do you think happend to the gold aks and such?
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:54:46 PM EDT
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Political liability. It's everything these days.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:55:05 PM EDT
[#13]
Unit trophy collections most likely. |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:55:12 PM EDT
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Because of the "once a machinegun, always a machinegun" almost all seized weapons would have to be demilled into kits. I agree that it is the last thing they are worried about, but why not find ways to make some of those billions of U.S. dollars back that have been spent over there. The kits would then be built over here with the correct number of U.S. parts as U.S. rifles.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:55:58 PM EDT
[#15]
 It sounds easy to sell kits to collectors, but it's easier just to blow them up. Cheaper, too, even considering the money they would make on kit sales. |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:56:03 PM EDT
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I'd love to have a real AK, Iraqi or not. 
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Posted: 12/14/2005 12:56:06 PM EDT
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Well, there a plenty fo Yugoslavian SKS's and Yugo AK kits flooding the U.S. right now, maybe Iraqi arms will do the same in 10 years?
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:04:34 PM EDT
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How dare the U.S. Gov't be responsible for profiting and distributing these 'death machines' onto the streets of America...
Not to mention profiting from the spoils of war...blah...blah....blah |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:20:37 PM EDT
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Provide me some facts showing they'd recoup millions after going through the process that would be involved with that and maybe I wont say how retarded-5-year-old this thread is. |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:21:48 PM EDT
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Because the government doesn't want you to have them. Duh!
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:25:26 PM EDT
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Three letters: A, T, and F.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:28:15 PM EDT
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+1 I love how everyone shits on this thread, saying its a stupid idea. It's not a stupid idea - may not be currently feasible, but it's not stupid. |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:29:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:31:10 PM EDT
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Why don't the kit importers go over there, and offer to destroy the weapons, and just demill them. Then import them as kits?
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:33:19 PM EDT
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Most importantly, it's Bush's fault they are not being sent back, him being so anti-gun and all.
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:37:25 PM EDT
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benefits = money from collectors willing to buy them (like me)
are vastly outweighed by costs = setting up infrastructure to de-mill thousands of AKs, shipping them, getting everything licensed and legalized and risks = bad publicity, anti-gun people spinning things the wrong way, weapons getting into wrong hands and being used in a high publicity event... it's a nice fantasy, but as a business venture it's simply not worth it. |
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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:40:48 PM EDT
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The military is in the business of blowing shit up, kicking ass, and taking names. Not scavenging shitty AK's for a profit. |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 12:04:05 AM EDT
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Why dont they send some mortars and serin gas kits back also. I can see the press saying that now.
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Posted: 12/15/2005 12:31:22 AM EDT
[#29]
That would be a really good reason to do just that 
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Posted: 12/15/2005 12:53:11 AM EDT
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This is true. But their corporate/political masters ARE in the business of profit. |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 12:59:41 AM EDT
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Hell I would be impressed if they would just send magazines back to the US for sale.
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Posted: 12/15/2005 1:40:25 AM EDT
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Because the US government isn't in competition with the private sector to make a profit.
If you start using tax dollars to supply demand, you will soon have an economy in the tank. Private business can't compete with a govt that doesn't care what it's costs are, and has unlimited bankroll of the taxpayer. Kill off a couple companies and the only source then becomes the Army. So now instead of a profitable business using funds it earned to finance future sales, the Army uses your taxpayer dollars to fund it's own sales that it doesn't care too much about. It's a formula for disaster as far as economics go. That's why there are laws against the US government competing with the private sector. So the answer to your question is because it's against the law. Our operating costs are staggering. AK kits wouldn't even put a scratch in it. |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 3:06:40 AM EDT
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Interestingly, by law (as passed by the CPA etc), all Iraqis may own a fully automatic AK47.
ANdy |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 3:09:31 AM EDT
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Belive it or not, our gov would much rather you not have any firearms
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Posted: 12/15/2005 3:29:53 AM EDT
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Because the Left would start saying"No war for AK's!"
or how 'bout..."George Bush invaded Iraq for their AK's" Like that would be wrong  jj
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Posted: 12/15/2005 3:45:32 AM EDT
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All captured AK, RPK, PPK, RPG & Dragunovs were turned over to the Iraqi Army and Police. Everything else was destroyed.
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Posted: 12/15/2005 7:29:01 AM EDT
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And because as somebody stated it would cost more to do that than gross profit taken in. The result would be a loss. The government would have to hire or contract people to ship them, demill them then sell them. Add in typical govt. inefficiency, you know the agency that would have to be created to oversee this, and the bureacrats needed.
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Posted: 12/15/2005 7:59:19 AM EDT
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Read this. Understand it. |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 8:17:33 AM EDT
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Probably because they're selling them to another country that is currently our ally but will be our enemy in 3-5 years.
Here's another wack idea... why not give them to the Iraqi Army?
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