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Posted: 1/11/2005 3:58:06 PM EDT

That other thread got me back to thinking...

(Im not up to knowledge on all this stuff, so excuse the stupid questions please)

If I want to own a full auto weapon, is this all I have to fill out, or is there more?

Is there somewhere I can go where someone will help me fill it out?

When it asks for a serial number, if I was planning on building the SMG, how would I know what the serial number was?

Posted: 1/11/2005 6:03:13 PM EDT

[#1]

bump?

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:09:46 PM EDT

[#2]

more specifics man!

uhh, nowadays you also have to self certify your citizenship.

also fingerprint cards and cleo sign off, but you knew that , right?

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:12:11 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
more specifics man!

uhh, nowadays you also have to self certify your citizenship.

also fingerprint cards and cleo sign off, but you knew that , right?

yeah, i knew that part, I was just having issues with the serial number questions and such.

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:18:02 PM EDT

[#4]

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When it asks for a serial number, if I was planning on building the SMG, how would I know what the serial number was?

You cant build one, the number Serial will be the info off the registered pre-86 part (DIAS, reciever, etc).

You fill out the forn, get signed by Chief law enforcement officer, 2 photos, one for each form (you do 2 copies) one set of fingerprint cards and $200 payable to ATF for Tax stamp

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:18:56 PM EDT

[#5]

^ What I needed, thank you.

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:19:53 PM EDT

[#6]

You can't build a machine gun for yourself any longer. It has to be an existing weapon. (Unless you become a manufacturer build them for sales to LE or Military. )

So first, you have to find one to buy (no longer a small investment SMGs start from $2200 for a M-11 and go up from there) then you get the paper work going.

(Edited to say Taxman beat me)

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:24:06 PM EDT

[#7]

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So first, you have to find one to buy (no longer a small investment SMGs start from $2200 for a M-11 and go up from there) then you get the paper work going.

Thank you as well for the info... maybe I could pick your brain some more...

So what are some average priced SMG that I could be able to afford?

I mean, I want an MP5, but I cant afford that right now, and I really want a full auto...

for under $5,000, what kind of SMG's can I get?

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:34:07 PM EDT

[#8]

More details here:

www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=3&f=14

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:35:46 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
You can't build a machine gun for yourself any longer.

That has yet to be decided.

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:37:01 PM EDT

[#10]

Cheapeast option is going to be a MAC, probaly running close to $3k

MP5 $12k was the last one I seen

Posted: 1/11/2005 7:37:34 PM EDT

[#11]

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Quoted:
You can't build a machine gun for yourself any longer.

That has yet to be decided.

Until its decided Im not going to try though.

Posted: 1/12/2005 10:20:45 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
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You can't build a machine gun for yourself any longer.

That has yet to be decided.

Until its decided Im not going to try though.

good thing since you are in the wrong circuit. I'd guess you are "relatively" safe if you create a new design in the circuit that it was ruled to be legal.

Posted: 1/12/2005 10:26:03 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Quoted:
So first, you have to find one to buy (no longer a small investment SMGs start from $2200 for a M-11 and go up from there) then you get the paper work going.

Thank you as well for the info... maybe I could pick your brain some more...

So what are some average priced SMG that I could be able to afford?

I mean, I want an MP5, but I cant afford that right now, and I really want a full auto...

for under $5,000, what kind of SMG's can I get?

If you add about a grand, and buy very soon, you can get an UZI SMG for right around $6k. They're going up fast though.

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