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Posted: 6/5/2001 5:24:51 PM EDT
This stuff is getting old and out of hand.
You have permission to post a link to your site so that others can visit if they so desire,but you have no blessings from anyone to post links in AR15.com to threads on your board that have pornography or insults to any of our members. You seem to have a group of HANGFIRE antiUSSA haters over there. We can't do anything about that, but this [b]coming over and giving links to such disgrace is going to stop now![/b] |
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Quoted: [img]web-comm.com/ar15/mc15.gif[/img] View Quote Add your name to the others for wasting bandwith with spamming messages, Have a good night! |
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Quoted: Quoted: [img]web-comm.com/ar15/mc15.gif[/img] View Quote Add your name to the others for wasting bandwith with spamming messages, Have a good night! View Quote I wonder if McDonalds would be interested in the copyright infringement we seem to have here?[?] |
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This recent spat is an excellent example of the decay of American society. These yahoos are absolutely convinced it is their "right" to post whatever, wherever, whenever they want, without regard to others "rights".
It only takes a few to destroy a community or a society. The "new world order" is coming, and it's because of idiots like this that America is becoming a cesspit. (rant mode off) Thank you, Ed. |
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Actually, McDonald's DOES take such infringements on it's name very seriously. There was a local instance where a guy with the last name McDaniel opened a quick lube shop under the nam McLube and was served with a lawsuit from McDonald's shortly thereafter. Apparently McDonald's feels that they have exclusive rights to the "Mc" prefix and are willing to dig into to their deep pockets to prove it. Needless to say, fighting such a lawsuit would have been prohibitively expensive with an uncertain outcome at best and the shop no longer uses that name.
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I wonder if McDonalds would be interested in the copyright infringement we seem to have here? View Quote I think you mean trademark infringement; it'd be more of a trademark dilution claim. And I know McDonald's takes trademark enforcement very seriously. They will go after just about anyone or anything that uses the "Mc" prefix. (Sorry Boomer - didn't mean to copy your post - I just didn't see it before I posted. You're right though. I'm a lawyer specializing in copyright and trademark, and let me tell you, McD's will protect their marks more vigorously than almost any other company in the world) (edited because I didn't see Boomer beat me to the punch) |
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Well tough Mcnuts for the
feel good Mcgun exchange Mcprogrammers. They ought to keep their damn Mccookies off of my Mccomputer so I could not have Mcposted them under garandman's toilet post.(in unaltered form no less) |
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Quoted: This recent spat is an excellent example of the decay of American society. These yahoos are absolutely convinced it is their "right" to post whatever, wherever, whenever they want, without regard to others "rights". It only takes a few to destroy a community or a society. The "new world order" is coming, and it's because of idiots like this that America is becoming a cesspit. (rant mode off) Thank you, Ed. View Quote First off, I agree with Ed actions, as this is a PRIVATE owned/operated board, however I disagree emphatically with your arguments. This is America, we DO have the right to say whatever we like, it's in our Constitution. I don't agree with a lot of what is said over there, but that doesn't take away their birth right of freedom of speech. I also don't agree with a lot of what is said on the streets of America, on TV in the media, etc., doesn't mean those thoughts should not be expressed, simply because I object to it. You say the "New World Order" is coming because of "idiots like" them. Well, you're right about the first part, but dead wrong about the second part. The NWO and political correctness is coming because of folks like yourself, who are willing to give up your right to free speech so people won't get there feelings hurt. Some of those folks on that other board, may be vulgar, offensive, racist, immature, ignorant, etc., but at least they have the guts to stand up for there rights and say "hey, here's my board, I can say whatever I want here." AR15.com is the best gun board on the net, but I commend McUZI for starting a board where he can say whatever he likes. You all should be happy that he has his board, so now he'll spend less time here, expressing those views you find 'offensive.' This is AR15.com, and yes they need to stop there offensive links on this board, but people here need to stop whining about what goes on at that 'other' board, because you're only drawing attention to that which you hate so much by your complaints. |
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This is SO out of hand.
Someone please restart Ak47.net. Let the cukoos fly back home to nest. |
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Quoted: This is SO out of hand. Someone please restart Ak47.net. Let the cukoos fly back home to nest. View Quote [b] You are soooo right! ROFLMAO! [:D] [/b] |
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Quoted: This is America, we DO have the right to say whatever we like, it's in our Constitution. I don't agree with a lot of what is said over there, but that doesn't take away their birth right of freedom of speech. View Quote FWIW, I have a hard time believing our founding fathers had any intention of protecting the vulgar trash we see so much of today. I think the 1st Ammendment is more about being able to freely disagree with the government without fear of reprisal than anything else. |
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When we sink to the level of the idiot, with rudeness, porno, and vulgar post then we're a better free-people. Please.
Childish behavior has nothing to do with the New World Order and more to do with the level of maturity of the poster. If you talk trash in my house I'll ask you to stop first, leave second and never come back third. |
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Quoted: Childish behavior has nothing to do with the New World Order and more to do with the level of maturity of the poster. View Quote Exactly. This is not a 'Free Speech' issue, or 'censorship' or 'NWO'. This IS all about respect. Respect for the owners of this board. Respect for the other members of this board. And, ultimatly I think, respect for one's self. |
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There's another "issue" running around the gun boards by the name of "GunKid". He use to be at Frugals but is now at Hard Core Talk. Similar to our problem child rather than being a part of the conversation he'd rather be the conversation. It's been twenty years since I got out of college but there was a name for this personality disorder that escapes me now.
If the limits say you can go so far he goes the next step farther. If permitted to stay there he advances another step seeking punishment, almost troll-like this behavior. Rather than adding to the web site's function or even joining in on chats he's rather tip the cart over and throw bombs from the sidelines. This is not appropriate behavior among the public and certainly not among friends. If we accept this behavior among our group he is forced to proceed farther and farther becoming the circus geek shocking us by biting the head off a chicken or in the most recent event become at truly distasteful hate spewing racist. We shouldn’t put up with such nonsense nor should be kowtow to his cult of personality supporters. A dog doesn’t sh!t where it sleeps but our problem child continuously does time and time again. Always pushing beyond the limits of acceptable and civil behavior. |
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Quoted: EdSr: I would really like to thank you for your patience and would like to extend my sincerest apologies to you. My "childlike" behavior was over the edge. You and your sons have provided us with a GREAT resource. The LAST thing that I want to see is disruption in this community. View Quote What HE said..... Aviator [img]www.dredgeearthfirst.com/aviator.gif[/img] |
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Ed,
Thanks for reminding people that the Golden Rule applies on the 'net. |
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Sure the framers of the Constitution desired free speech. Remember, however, they also used to routinely shoot rude morons who insulted them with dueling pistols. Thus, most intelligent people thought about what they were saying, as the consequences of stupidity could be very real.
An armed society is a polite society, someone once said... |
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I was visiting over there, but just recently decided not to anymore. I don't mind the flame fest's, pornography or even conversations about race. However, since the witnessing of "I hate N's post's and signatures with a pic of awhite robed KKK member popping up on my screen, I've decided not to visit the site anymore.
They can have it to themselves for all I care. |
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All I gots to say is "Way to go" Ed Avila / GoatBoy, etc.
Takin' out the garbage..... |
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This is called " holding people [b]responsible[/b] for their behavior and [b]accountable[/b] for their actions."
When you break the social contract, you pay. Good job fellas. |
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If guys want to look at trash let them go to McUzi.com. I wish everbody would stop bitching back and forth. The Mods are doing a Great job of cleaning up the boards. I wish guys would stop posting the nasty stuff but there is no way to stop it except to ban their IP. I hate it for all the guys who have been offended. I am pretty thick skinned but some of that stuff is way bad!!
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Quoted: This is called " holding people [b]responsible[/b] for their behavior and [b]accountable[/b] for their actions." When you break the social contract, you pay. Good job fellas. View Quote |
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All this talk about freedom of speech, etc....
THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY!!!!! |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quoted: This is called " holding people responsible for their behavior and accountable for their actions." When you break the social contract, you pay. Good job fellas. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forget accountable and responsible, these are antiquated ethics for most today!....Respect and maturity, as already stated!!!!!!!!! View Quote Ditto! and Right On! I took a peek overthere and found nothing but kids and inmature stuff. |
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Yes,
Holding them [b]accountable[/b] for their mutual respect and [b]responsible[/b] for their maturity. |
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Maybe it is time to charge a membership fee to AR15.com. Maybe $25 for an annual membership. Lord knows I have learned a lot from this site, Knowledge I would GLADLY pay for. At least if people want to insult each other, make them pay to do it.
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[size=5][blue] I hope that all will be peaceful here now that they have their own place to play.[/size=5][/blue]
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Quoted: Quoted: This is America, we DO have the right to say whatever we like, it's in our Constitution. I don't agree with a lot of what is said over there, but that doesn't take away their birth right of freedom of speech. View Quote FWIW, I have a hard time believing our founding fathers had any intention of protecting the vulgar trash we see so much of today. I think the 1st Ammendment is more about being able to freely disagree with the government without fear of reprisal than anything else. View Quote Gee thats what the antigunners say about our AR`S. Think about it! |
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If people from there are coming here and disrupting things and posting inappropriate material, the Admins and Mods are within their rights to ban them.
I think McUzi.com just an off-color humor/porn/fight forum, and I'll enjoy it for what it is. I wouldn't take what anyone says there seriously, I don't think the people that say it themselves even take it seriously. It reminds me of the forums on Stile Project and to a lesser extent Something Awful, albeit with guns. [:)] How about an AR15.com vs McUzi.com game of Counter-Strike? Of course I'll have trouble choosing sides [8D] [pyro][rocket] |
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Watch it, or the McUzi brigade might come here and kick some tail! [:)]
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Quoted: This is America, we DO have the right to say whatever we like, it's in our Constitution. I don't agree with a lot of what is said over there, but that doesn't take away their birth right of freedom of speech. I also don't agree with a lot of what is said on the streets of America, on TV in the media, etc., doesn't mean those thoughts should not be expressed, simply because I object to it. You say the "New World Order" is coming because of "idiots like" them. Well, you're right about the first part, but dead wrong about the second part. The NWO and political correctness is coming because of folks like yourself, who are willing to give up your right to free speech so people won't get there feelings hurt. Some of those folks on that other board, may be vulgar, offensive, racist, immature, ignorant, etc., but at least they have the guts to stand up for there rights and say "hey, here's my board, I can say whatever I want here." View Quote I hate the 3500 character limit. You read into my response something other than was in there. I never said they didn't have a right to "free speech". I said that These yahoos are absolutely convinced it is their "right" to post whatever, wherever, whenever they want, without regard to others "rights". View Quote Rights have corresponding responsibilities. One of the responsibilities associated with free speech is the responsibility to not do unnecessary damage to the society that you live in. Another is to recognize that [b]your[/b] right does [b]not[/b] exceed someone else's. "Political Correctness" is most definitely an outcome of the "free speech" question. Speech has always been limited - it used to be limited by A) self-control, and B) social pressures (remember the concept of "shame"???) However, now that the ACLU claims that "there's no such thing as a bad idea" in their defense of the NAMBLA web site, the powers of "Political Correctness" state that it's OK to say anything you want - as long as it's on the approved list. Kiddie porn? Protected by "free speech". Fifth-grader's drawing weapons on notebook paper? "Bad speech" not so protected. If you [u]don't[/u] think that the racism et. al. that McUzi spouts is damaging to the society in which you live, then I don't think you're paying attention. I'd just rather combat it through social pressure than by legislation. OK? [sniper] |
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Quoted: Quoted: Some of those folks on that other board, may be vulgar, offensive, racist, immature, ignorant, etc., but at least they have the guts to stand up for there rights and say "hey, here's my board, I can say whatever I want here." View Quote It doesn't take "guts" to post under the guise of anonymity. It doesn't take "guts" to be offensive when there are no consequences. When I sign onto a board I give my full name, email address, state and country unlike the majority of the "gutless" porno/racist gang. [smoke] |
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ipschoser1, do you also have a hard time believing the Founding Fathers would approve of assault rifles being protected by the 2nd amendment? If you don't like what's on your T.V.,turn the channel or turn it off. If you don't like a particular movie, don't go see it or if you did, why did'nt you walk out? If you don't want your kids playing a certain video game, don't allow it in your house. I could go on and on.....Ben Franklin said "People willing to sacrifice a little Freedom for a little security deserve neither" or words to that effect. Ben was right. If you guys who claim to hate McUzi would just ignore his posts, he would look elsewhere for his attempts at antogonizing people. Don't get me wrong I'm here mostly to talk AR's and gun related topics, but I have apprecited the occassional OT humor post as well. I just skip a post if I just know it's gonna offend/incencse me. Most of the time it works. The times it don't I just click on the back button real quick...
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