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Posted: 9/8/2004 8:29:34 AM EDT
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You could always go nerf...
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Posted: 9/8/2004 8:35:28 AM EDT
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How many do you think occurred in other wars?
War isn't business. And the enmy often doesn't follow rules. SGatr15 |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 8:36:07 AM EDT
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I'm not an expert on this subject, but I believe that 25% is exactly par for the course.
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Posted: 9/8/2004 8:37:55 AM EDT
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Most of the deaths in Desert Shield/Storm were from accidents.
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Posted: 9/8/2004 8:40:16 AM EDT
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Nothing new on friendly fire casualties…
The old soldiers from the North Europe Campaign in WWII used to say…… "Germans in the Sky, Yanks take cover… Yanks in the Sky, both side take cover…" Andy |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 8:52:04 AM EDT
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Think of all the vehicle accidents you see around you here in the states. Now imagine if almost all of the occupants aren't wearing seatbelts. Lot more deaths, right?
Now take an industry where you use very heavy vehicles and equipment weighing many tons. Have the workers on the clock for 18 or 20 hours a day EVERY day, no days off, constantly doing physically and mentally demanding jobs. Lot more deaths, right? Fighting battles and winning wars is a very difficult thing to do. Despite emphasis on operation risk management, even the training is extremely hazardous and unfortunately results in many accidents. There is NO industry/business more dangerous. It's war. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 8:56:30 AM EDT
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Seeing how the Iraqis drive, and the fact that we don't wear seatbelts out of the wire, I am surprised more people aren't killed. As a gunner in a Humvee, I was always concerned that some Iraqi civ. was going to hit us. It's also nerve racking when you are sharing the road with a tank. It got so bad, they required us to wear selt belts when we came onto our post. |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 9:05:19 AM EDT
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Amazing the number of US personnel killed in non combat related vehicle accidents. Sad.
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Posted: 9/9/2004 11:38:37 AM EDT
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Arab countries tend to have incredibly high traffic accident mortality.
GunLvr |
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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:54:40 PM EDT
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Maybe the 25% sounds high because the killed by enemy fire is so LOW for a real war ? i.e. if 10,000 were killed by enemy fire like in Nam, the 250 killed by an Acccident would not even be on the radar screen ? |
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Posted: 9/9/2004 1:05:13 PM EDT
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In any give year military deaths from accidents in peace time can number in the hundreds.
War is a slightly more dangerous activity that business I don’t think OSHA would be of much help. |
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Posted: 9/9/2004 1:11:26 PM EDT
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If anyone ever bothered to read the safety stats they would find that the accidental death rate in Iraq (with the exception of friendly fire) / (including aircraft crashes) has not increased the total number of accidental deaths overall.
Here is the current (Sept 04) Navy Military Motor Vehicle Fatality Rates This page contains information on Navy and Marine Corps non-operational private motor vehicle (PMV) and operational motor vehicle mishaps for the current fiscal year. Total PMV Fatalities Navy 65 Total PMV Fatality Rate Navy 18.11 Operational Total Operational MV Fatalities Navy 5 Operational MV Fatality Rate Navy 1.39 For Fy 99 it was a total of 71 deaths. |
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Posted: 9/9/2004 2:06:08 PM EDT
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My uncle was a teenager in WW II, then back for Korea. He stated to me he saw as many guys killed in screw ups as combat. He saw a lot of combat.
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