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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:03:41 AM EDT
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A crazy story
An Ohio man has been charged with murder after he admitted to shooting an Uber driver who had been tricked by a scammer to pick up a package at his home. The fatal incident, which was captured on the female driver's dashcam, took place in the town of South Charleston on March 25 at around 11:25am. William Brock, 81, told police he had been receiving fraudulent phone calls from scammers demanding money and had been threatened by them in the weeks running up to the altercation. One of the suspected scammers is believed to have messaged Uber delivery driver Letha Hall, 61, through the app to tell her to pick up a package at Brock's home. Hall showed up at Brock's home and according to police, 'made no threats or assaults' toward him and just asked about the package. Fearing she was going to hurt him, Brock shockingly whipped out a gun and demanded she identify who had sent her. Video Much of the scene was captured on the video camera in Hall's vehicle and released by the Clark County Sheriff's Office. Brock also allegedly took her phone and wouldn't let her leave, though he never dialed 911 or called for help, police said. Hall tried to get back to her car when Brock shot her. Afterward, Hall can be heard screaming in pain, while Brock threatens to 'shoot the other leg.' There was apparently a 'scuffle' between the two, during which Brock asked Hall who she worked for, then he shot her again and then a third time after a 'further exchange.' She was shot in the upper left side of her torso, one to the upper front of her left leg, one on the inside of her left knee and one in the center mass of her sternum. Hall was taken to a local hospital but died while undergoing surgery, authorities said. Brock, who himself suffered injuries to his head and ear, only called 911 after he had shot Hall. He told deputies - 'without being asked' as they put it - that Hall was there to 'take my money.' Brock said that Hall attacked him after he shot her by slamming his head into the door of her car and then tried to escape, so he shot her again, thinking she was going to get a gun of her own. 'He provided he didn't want to shoot her but he thought she was going to kill him,' the incident report said. Brock is being charged with murder because he didn't call 911 and because there was 'no active threat presented by Ms. Hall at any time during the encounter.' He posted a $200,000 bond but could face further charges after the incident is investigated further. Link |
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Bad shoot. Very bad shoot.
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Bad shoot, but the whole situation is tragic.
Scammers need to be fire-boarded! |
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Poor woman.
He's guilty as f*ck but the scammers should be tracked and charged. |
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Tragic. I wish we had the whole audio for the whole altercation.
They need to find the scammers and charge Them with murder. |
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GD- "It's kind of like wading through through slimy lake bed with your feet to find clams below the surface".
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Have they interviewed any neighbors? I'm guessing it's "He was a nasty, old guy who would yell at kids who might stray into his lawn. He never had any visitors, etc etc...."
My parents are in their 80s. They fall for shit, and we've told them MULTIPLE times to be careful and ALWAYS run things past us before giving out money or personal info. They get bitter and take it really personally, then a couple months later it happens all over again. I hate scammers as much as the next person, but good God, do stubborn old people make it easy. |
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Originally Posted By konger: Tragic! Sort of a case of her being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I wonder if Ohio has a stand your ground law and if it will apply here? View Quote Ohio has excellent castle doctrine and stand your ground laws, neither will apply here nor should they. This was outright murder not self defense. It is a case of an old man needlessly killing an innocent person. |
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If only we had federal law enforcement agencies that had the capabilities to deal with scammers..
Unfortunately, we had an insurrection on Jan 6, and that has consumed our federal law enforcement time. Oh, and some maga parents complained at school board meetings. |
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Fuck that old bastard.
I hope that his remaining days on this earth are miserable. |
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Wow she could barely hobble about
Looking pretty fuckin bad to me |
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"Somewhere in the midst of my coke-fueled orgy I decide life wasn't so bad after all."
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Sorry, pops, but if you feel threatened enough to shoot someone, put it between their eyes.
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Freedom and Justice come out of a box. Sometimes it is a Jury box. Sometimes it is a Ballot box. Other times it has to come from a Cartridge box!
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Originally Posted By giantpune: You can point some of the blame at uber, and at her. There's an app that lets person A tell company B to send their contractor C to just show up random places and pickup random shit. B and C will happily comply with anything that A tells them. Because if they didn't, it would make more friction for their business, and would cost them money. IMO, B and C both own some of the responsibility in this. You can't just blindly trust some unverified random asshole across the internet thats telling you to do something. What if I told them to show up to the Louvre and pick up the Mona Lisa and deliver it to my house? Hopefully they wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for that one. If they continue to do business this same way, they will continue to be used to do illegal activities. Its clear that B isn't interested in changing their business practices. C will need to get smarter. Ask questions. Expect that sometimes you will be getting sent somewhere as part of a scam or a drug mule. Or risk getting clapped when they send you up to participate in a scam on a crazy old man. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By Explorer225: Old white dude shoots a black woman it's not going to be good. Poor lady just trying to make a living You can point some of the blame at uber, and at her. There's an app that lets person A tell company B to send their contractor C to just show up random places and pickup random shit. B and C will happily comply with anything that A tells them. Because if they didn't, it would make more friction for their business, and would cost them money. IMO, B and C both own some of the responsibility in this. You can't just blindly trust some unverified random asshole across the internet thats telling you to do something. What if I told them to show up to the Louvre and pick up the Mona Lisa and deliver it to my house? Hopefully they wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for that one. If they continue to do business this same way, they will continue to be used to do illegal activities. Its clear that B isn't interested in changing their business practices. C will need to get smarter. Ask questions. Expect that sometimes you will be getting sent somewhere as part of a scam or a drug mule. Or risk getting clapped when they send you up to participate in a scam on a crazy old man. Thats what I'm wondering. What if you post up a good job for a guy with a truck. I say "Go to this construction site and pickup this trailer with $25k worth equipment and deliver here, we'll pay $250 extra because we need the equipment here overnight, you can get this stuff at midnight, make sure it makes it here before sunrise" |
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Originally Posted By Booray: That sucks he got scammed, but fuck that guy. That could have been sorted with 30 seconds of conversation. He had demons in his skull that interfered with rational thought. View Quote Watching my mom go from being my mom to an Alzheimers victim was horrible. In the early stages, she could switch from being my mom to being Alzheimers and back again in a short period of time. I actually think that's where the story of Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde cane from. |
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Bad shoot.
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Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR: hes old and frail and had been threatened. How was he supposed to know? He didnt invite her View Quote If someone is sent to an address to pick up a box for a courier service I think that most people could assume that it's a consensual arrangement between sender and recipient |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: If someone is sent to an address to pick up a box for a courier service I think that most people could assume that it's a consensual arrangement between sender and recipient View Quote almost as if you order from a delivery service and a representative from said service delivers the items you ordered................. |
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Hope he sits in jail scared and alone for his final days, as such it shouldn't be too long now.
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Originally Posted By Currahee: Wish it was the scammers that had shown up and got shot. But, as far as that goes, Scammers seem to be the most gutless criminal type. Question, because I have no idea how Uber works... Is it normal just to get a message to go pick up a package? View Quote No. Never heard of it, but that might be a thing in the ghetto, to hire some schmuck to be your drug mule. The folks doing uber typically need the money. |
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Old people can be very unpredictable and not think clearly.
Don't fuck with old people. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: He thought she was part of the scammer crew that was calling him and harassing him. The guy was paranoid and wasn't even thinking. I've read stories about solicitors knocking on people doors and getting shot when they opened the door by old people because they were paranoid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By KILLERB6: Why would he shoot a dead Über driver? He thought she was part of the scammer crew that was calling him and harassing him. The guy was paranoid and wasn't even thinking. I've read stories about solicitors knocking on people doors and getting shot when they opened the door by old people because they were paranoid. Paranoia is a common symptom in older folks who suffer from dementia - even in people with no history whatsoever of any paranoia. No excusing his actions tho. RIP lady just doing what she was asked to do. |
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The Space Force should be dropping rods from God on these fucking scammer call centers.
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Take it easy and if it's easy take it twice
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice |
let me guess? and she argued with him?
"tricked by scammers"...uh huh.... |
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i mean, she didn't look like a threat...poor lady could barely walk...
i bet we're not being told some shit tho.... old white guy they can paint as racist, so any exonerating evidence will be told 100 years from now |
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I'll bet the old dude flicked the revolver forward to throw the bullets as he shot. He got the drop on her, alright.
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The Second Amendment: Preserving our right to petition the government - with malice.
"I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'." Virginia Is For Loners (TM) |
murder for sure. Sad events that led to this but the old guy is responsible and ought to be put away.
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on the one hand there's [the media] and on the other hand there's the left wing progressives, and you can't really put them in the same camp that easily - JBP
Well, hopefully we will be putting them 'in the same camp' - Michael Malice |
I'm thinking dementia played a role in this. Old dudes remaining years are f---ed and the woman's life ended.
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Originally Posted By willyj73: If only we had federal law enforcement agencies that had the capabilities to deal with scammers.. Unfortunately, we had an insurrection on Jan 6, and that has consumed our federal law enforcement time. Oh, and some maga parents complained at school board meetings. View Quote And the FBI is still busting people from Jan 6. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: He thought she was part of the scammer crew that was calling him and harassing him. The guy was paranoid and wasn't even thinking. I've read stories about solicitors knocking on people doors and getting shot when they opened the door by old people because they were paranoid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By KILLERB6: Why would he shoot a dead Über driver? He thought she was part of the scammer crew that was calling him and harassing him. The guy was paranoid and wasn't even thinking. I've read stories about solicitors knocking on people doors and getting shot when they opened the door by old people because they were paranoid. I wish reading comprehension was part of education now days. |
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Originally Posted By JET55: Now imagine this asshat driving around. Guarantee he’s in the left lane doing “the speed limit”. At that age and state of mental acuity, he should lose both drivers license and right to firearms. View Quote Careful there pilgrim! You just opened a can of rancid shit! |
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Crazy old fucker.
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: I would love to see Congress start with the telephone network and making the real number show up only, so no more spoofed calls, but the odds they would try and help the average joe is really slim. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By WesJanson: Originally Posted By MeInMediocrity: Originally Posted By realwar: He thought she was part of the scammer crew that was calling him and harassing him. The guy was paranoid and wasn't even thinking. I've read stories about solicitors knocking on people doors and getting shot when they opened the door by old people because they were paranoid. This is a good example of why the government should make more of an effort to shut down scammers. If a sitting President announced he was going to task unnamed assets with locating scammers overseas, and sending Tomahawks after them, it would both guarantee re-election and have a dramatic effect globally in online scamming. I would love to see Congress start with the telephone network and making the real number show up only, so no more spoofed calls, but the odds they would try and help the average joe is really slim. There are legitimate reasons to push a number that isn't technically the one you're calling from or on the block of numbers for that system. Especially if you do tech support for multiple organizations. Where I work we have multiple incoming numbers and everyone has a DID. What's the "real number? In this day of IP phones how do you determine the real number? Unless you're presenting a number that doesn't belong to you can have a legitimate number from any place in the world and it would be a real number which you could use from any place in the world. |
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You must play the game. You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit the game.
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If you've got a blacklist, I want to be on it.
FL, USA
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The only thing that you can guess about a broken down old man... is that he is a survivor.
The man is heartless and jaded. By this point he's probably comfortable with it. - SmilingBandit |
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If you've got a blacklist, I want to be on it.
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: I hope this is a badly articulated joke, because otherwise you probably should have your adult kids come and take your guns away. View Quote |
The only thing that you can guess about a broken down old man... is that he is a survivor.
The man is heartless and jaded. By this point he's probably comfortable with it. - SmilingBandit |
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Originally Posted By runcible: Sometimes, you read shit in GD that is so derpy, you know it's sheer luck that the people who wrote it aren't dead or in prison. View Quote The fact that normal productive people allow unhinged people to vote and own firearms is a testament to how much we value freedom. |
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This guy is how I imagine boomer arfcommers
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