If crime drops by 90% in D.C. will the anti-gunners finaly get it?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - If crime drops by 90% in D.C. will the anti-gunners finaly get it?

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:02:54 AM EDT

House leaders plan to hold a vote on the day the ban expires on legislation introduced by Rep. Mark Souder (R-Ind.), which would repeal the Washington, D.C., firearms ban and eliminate “criminal penalties for possessing an unregistered firearm.” The legislation has 226 bipartisan co-sponsors, more than necessary to ensure passage.

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:03:45 AM EDT

[#1]

no

S.O.

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:10:05 AM EDT

[#2]

They already know that guns prevent crime. They don't care.

They also know that guns prevent abusive governments. THAT is why they want to ban them.

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:10:55 AM EDT

[#3]

Nope, never.

The evidence has been there for anyone to see for years. It's about CONTROL, not about Gun Control. Look at England and the Aussies. As soon as the bans went into effect, crime rates shot through the roof. Their response? "Oh, these laws don't go far enough, we need more-better-different ones to solve the problem."

Assmunches all of them. Pols would rather see citizens DIE rather than admit that what they've done DOESN'T WORK. After all, there will be other voters given the pols social and welfare programs make it a sure thing that they will keep breeding like rabbits.

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:11:13 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
They already know that guns prevent crime. They don't care.

They also know that guns prevent abusive governments. THAT is why they want to ban them.

Exactly

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:11:32 AM EDT

[#5]

Where is the option for "Not even if you held a gun to their head?"

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:15:24 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Where is the option for "Not even if you held a gun to their head?"

As fun as that may be, they would only laugh as you to shot them and furthered their cause.

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:16:07 AM EDT

[#7]

You could use a firearm to save an anti's life and they'd STILL want them banned.

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:27:51 AM EDT

[#8]

The one that gets me is all the pols/activists that carry handguns and have armed bodyguards yet they blame crime on guns. WTF?

They only believe in laws that they can conveniently exempt themselves from.
Unless its a pay raise.

Honestly the Fed Gov should only be responsible for 3 things:

1)Military(including border security)
2)Interstate commerce & cooperation.(Money, highways, national forrests, etc.)
3)Foriegn policy.(When fails see #1)
That would make the President happy.

Posted: 9/7/2004 12:42:45 AM EDT

[#9]

The sad truth is that most liberal antis I know don't trust themselves with guns and not willing to admit they are inferior to anyone in anyway don't trust you to have guns.

It's that simple.

Tj

Posted: 9/7/2004 5:54:59 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
You could use a firearm to save an anti's life and they'd STILL want them banned.

You ain't kidding. A couple of years back, I remember reading about a woman around here who was attacked in a grocery store. A CCW holder drew her weapon, and the attacker stopped the attack and was arrested. The person who was attacked later said she had been more afraid of the gun than the person that attacked her!

Posted: 9/7/2004 8:33:18 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
[You ain't kidding. A couple of years back, I remember reading about a woman around here who was attacked in a grocery store. A CCW holder drew her weapon, and the attacker stopped the attack and was arrested. The person who was attacked later said she had been more afraid of the gun than the person that attacked her!

That is wrong on so many levels.
If that woman(CCW holder) had pulled out a badge after the fact the lady would be leading a cherity drive for the local PD.

Posted: 9/7/2004 8:39:51 AM EDT

[#12]

Not a fucking chance. Not a Fucking chance in hell

Posted: 9/7/2004 8:43:59 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Quoted:
You could use a firearm to save an anti's life and they'd STILL want them banned.

You ain't kidding. A couple of years back, I remember reading about a woman around here who was attacked in a grocery store. A CCW holder drew her weapon, and the attacker stopped the attack and was arrested. The person who was attacked later said she had been more afraid of the gun than the person that attacked her!

Yeah, I remember that! People are more scare of inanimate objects that bad people.

Posted: 9/7/2004 8:44:04 AM EDT

[#14]

For most of them it isn't about reducing crime at all.

It is about CONTROL.

Reducing Crime, or Common Sense Gun Safety, etc are the terms used to get the masses to buy off on freedom infractions.

Posted: 9/7/2004 8:53:38 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
For most of them it isn't about reducing crime at all.

It is about CONTROL.

Reducing Crime, or Common Sense Gun Safety, etc are the terms used to get the masses to buy off on freedom infractions.

It's all about Social Engineering.
They're trying to create the Socialist-Sheeple Paradise that the European Socialists couldn't succeed in creating.

I've dealt with plenty of anti's over the years and had to listen to their BS.
Even after telling them how CCW has saved my a$$ in a couple muggings, they still think all guns should be confiscated.

If I saw one of them getting mugged, I'd wave and keep walking.

CKMorley

Posted: 9/7/2004 1:58:32 PM EDT

[#16]

Guns in the hands of law abiding citizens has already been proven to lower crime. They didn't get it then, and they won't get it know. They prefer to assume that all guns are bad because some bad people use them.

Posted: 9/7/2004 2:10:38 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
They already know that guns prevent crime. They don't care.

They also know that guns prevent abusive governments. THAT is why they want to ban them.

Posted: 9/7/2004 2:19:02 PM EDT

[#18]

it'll never pass the senate so why even bother?

Posted: 9/9/2004 6:35:40 AM EDT

[#19]

All I have to do is read about other states and keep telling myself I will never move out of AZ.
Some states are running to socialism and it will not be pritty when it fails.

Posted: 9/9/2004 6:42:49 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
They already know that guns prevent crime. They don't care.

They also know that guns prevent abusive governments. THAT is why they want to ban them.

And the WINNER is......................

Posted: 9/9/2004 7:05:40 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Quoted:
They already know that guns prevent crime. They don't care.

They also know that guns prevent abusive governments. THAT is why they want to ban them.

And the WINNER is......................

Unfortunately, you guys could not be more correct.

Posted: 9/9/2004 7:15:23 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
They already know that guns prevent crime. They don't care.

They also know that guns prevent abusive governments. THAT is why they want to ban them.

Exactly. Their power is the only thing that matters to them. They'd sooner see every last one of us die then sacrifice the slightest bit of their power.