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Posted: 9/4/2004 2:01:02 PM EDT
seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apelection_story.asp?category=1131&slug=American%20Muslims%20Bush
Pro-Bush booth angers many U.S. Muslims By RACHEL ZOLL AP RELIGION WRITER ROSEMONT, Ill. -- At the largest annual convention of American Muslims, a pro-Bush booth has stirred anger among attendees who believe the president's actions since Sept. 11, 2001, have hurt more innocent Muslims than terrorists. They stop abruptly when they see the 5-foot-tall photo of President Bush, with "muslimsforbush.com" above his head. Then come the outbursts. "Disgusting," said one onlooker. "Take that down," said another. Muslim women walk past a booth set up at the 41st annual Islamic Society of North America convention Friday, Sept. 3, 2004 in Rosemont, Ill. The booth was set up by Muhammad Ali Hasan, founder of "Muslims for Bush," who is seen in the photograph next to Bush in the background. "I think President Bush has misled not only the United States, but the world," said Noor Maciael, an educator who called the booth "disgusting" and planned to vote for Democrat John Kerry. "He has put us in a situation where the whole world is hating this country." The display was funded by Muhammad Ali Hasan and his mother, Seeme, who recently created the group "Muslims for Bush." Seeme Hasan said in a phone interview that she and her husband Malik, a Colorado physician who earned his wealth in the health care industry, have donated more than $1 million to Bush and Republican causes since the 2000 campaign. "The reason we are doing this is that Muslims don't have a lobbyist," Seeme Hasan said. "We want to be there. We are going to give contributions at the highest level." Bush has other supporters in the Muslim community. Some are Iraqi-Americans overjoyed that Saddam Hussein has been ousted. Others are entrepreneurs who view the GOP as more friendly to business interests. And many devout Muslims prefer the Republicans' conservative stand on social issues such as gay marriage. But many Muslims at the nonpartisan Islamic Society of North America convention were not grateful for the Hasans' activism. An older man gawked at the photo of the president with his arms wrapped around Muhammad and Seeme Hasan, and said, "I'm numb. I'm speechless." He then joined a group that had cornered a conference official, demanding that the display be taken down. A volunteer staffing the booth said some people were taking campaign material and throwing it out. Asma Gull Hasan, the elder Hasan's daughter, who was also at the booth, said she had expected negative remarks. However, she said she was encouraged that some passers-by had quietly told her they would vote for the president. Bush has a complex relationship with American Muslims. He declared Islam a peaceful religion when some other U.S. leaders were condemning the faith, and honored Muslim holidays in the White House. After Sept. 11, the president made a gesture of enormous significance for the community when he visited a Washington-area mosque and warned the public that anger over the suicide hijackings should not be directed toward U.S. Muslims. However, his subsequent policies have caused deep resentment. Muslim leaders say the domestic war on terror and the USA Patriot Act, which extended controversial law enforcement powers, have cast so wide a net that all Muslims and their institutions have become suspect. Many also saw the war in Iraq as the extension of a misguided U.S. policy in the Mideast that foments terrorism instead of stopping it. Leading American Muslim organizations endorsed Bush in 2000 over Democrat Al Gore, expecting the Texas governor would be more sympathetic to their concerns. But Muslims have said since that they regretted their decision. Surveys of U.S. Muslims indicate a majority will vote for Kerry, even though they fear he will not go far enough in repealing parts of the Patriot Act. Volunteers at a Kerry booth at the convention, in a far corner of the vendors' hall away from the Bush display, were busily distributing campaign stickers. Both candidates have been reaching out to Muslim voters. Muslims are concentrated in some battleground states, such as Ohio, Michigan and Florida, and they hope their presence in those areas will help them gain political visibility. Muhammad Hasan said that since the convention began Friday evening, critics who have approached him have been more open to hearing his views. He said he was not discouraged by the response so far. "I have a lot of faith in the fact that the Muslim vote is up for grabs," he said |
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Well I for one am not surprised.
Please note this is a general stratement about being surprised and does not reflect my opinion on any religion or culture or group of persons I just find it not surprising a group of people, who do not represent any entire sect would say such things about POTUS. |
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Good point. I should clarify that I posted the article for informational purposes only. Those of you reading it, please do not form judgements regarding any religious or cultural group. If you do, and you express those here, I cannot be held responsible for any actions taken by Aimless. |
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Yes I will take the one in white for $300 and how much is her little sister?
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I thought it was illegal for one person to donate that much.
One million dollars? Isn't there a campaign donation limit? |
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[greenparrot]"RAWWK! Religion of Peace! Religion of Peace!" [/greenparrot] |
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It is over a 4 year period and probably includes Local, State and National elections. BigDozer66 |
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I can see the muslims slowly taking us over from the inside. Voting people out of office whom would protect us, and voting in people who would destroy our way of life as we know it. Very sad that our own constitution is going to be used to destroy us from within.
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Psst, arfcommers, your cynicism is showing...
By the way, there are a lot of Muslims that are Pro Bush. His actions are often well thought of by people with families in their old countries that were liberated by his (and Bush 41's) wars on the bad guys. |
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What actions would those be ? |
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hmmm, hide from the facts, the good old American way, abolish those who dare utter such nonsense!
unfortunately a good majority of "muslims" have been killed by "people" (used against my better judgement) who claim to be, "muslims"... My God, you would think that would be enough to piss them off. as mentioned elsewhere on this site, the muslims better distance themselves from these assholes before their whole religion is wiped from the face of the earth. The number of non-muslims effected by this shit is growing rapidly, tolerance will only last so long until 'something gives' |
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First, tough shit if someone, anyone, is mad about what we're doing about 9-11. Second, who's RACHEL ZOLL, AP RELIGION WRITER and what direction does her writing usually lean? Anyone know cause I don't.
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Last night he locked the accounts of a number of folks reacting to the events in Russia. |
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So we had a bun ch of them all in one place at the same time?
And........................................ Sktar15 |
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What do you know, they get stirred up over a group of thier own supporting Bush, while other things go on in thier community and the reaction is somewhat more muted.
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Who's accounts got locked? I'd like to know. |
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It is my understanding "that number" is :2 |
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Necromancer shouldn't count, that voodoo shit should have gotten her locked last week. |
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Necromancer and who else? Was it virginia22? |
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NEWS FLASH:
AP(NY)MANY U.S. MUSLIMS ANGERED - QUIETSHOOTR DOESN'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK |
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Yes....about 10 minutes from where I am.....and I was thinking the same thing..... that we cannot discuss the .....and |
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This "news" story is obviously anti-Muslim propaganda spread by preachers of hate, with the expressed purpose of slandering the good name of a peaceful & benign world religion.
This thread needs to be locked ASAP, lest it offend innocent Muslims. |
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The same can be said about the cats down at your local pound. All those vulnerable cats in little tiny cages. Exactly what were you thinking? j/k |
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So f------ what? But wait, I forgot it is the religion of peace (and slaughtering little children).
-REAPER2502 |
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Be careful, FREE... you'll get locked. God knows, you don't know a thing about murderous hajis. |
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Read my disclaimer. If you were around last night, you'd know why it's necessary. |
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I think the Hasan family are pretty damn lucky that the crowd didn't kidnap them and cut their heads off for defiling Islam!
Oh...sorry, I lost my head. We're talking about The Religion of Peace . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ........RIGHT! |
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Virginia22 got locked today for something else. The other account locked last night is already unlocked and everything straightened out. I have to apologize that i don't remember the name and am not familiar with the gentlman. I think it's initial with numbers, that combined with no team member pic makes it tough for me to remember. |
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A number of accounts? I locked necromancer, who was already a troublemaker on thin ice. That's it. Yeeah-I did lock several threads though if that's what you meant. |
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A lot of them are angry at Bush because he'll shut down their charitable donations that they probably get to deduct on their taxes.
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Um, let' see, what was I going to say........
Oh yeah, F*CK THEM, and F*CK THE "Religion of Peace™" |
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I find it very interesting that people come here from other countries, and as they try to establish themselves realize that their culture (which they refuse to leave at the door when they come here) isnt the predominant one in this country. This isnt a nation of muslims....and it should never be. If these people are so unhappy with the leadership here, why the fk do they stay?
All these people do is complain.....either about how their religion isnt being accepted in America, or about how the rest of us are infidels. This isnt a personal attack, so I think its fair to ask... Muslim people that post here on this site.... If you dislike the form of governement in America, dislike the leaders, dislike the culture, arent accepted, harbor contempt for the values we hold, the foods we eat, the way we choose wives (not arranged)...why are you here? You either came here to escape persecution, or to profit from our economy....or maybe, you are just here to further the greater cause which is spreading your hateful and exclusive doctrine until you take over the world. Can anyone explain to me why these people are here? |
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