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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:29:11 AM EDT
[#1]
+1
Even with an AK, my granny (if she were alive) could have tagged him. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:31:15 AM EDT
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Coulda, woulda, whatever.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:31:19 AM EDT
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What I also thought was (funny?) was that leading up to the spot I heard so much about what a far shot it was and how amazing it was and how he couldn't have done THAT alone...but when I got there it was what...200ft? I thought to myself "I could have done it with a handgun"
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:32:39 AM EDT
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the shots are very do-able........
that said, I still think oswald did not act alone, there's too much evidence, albeit circumstancial, that there was indeed, a conspiracy |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:33:10 AM EDT
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200 feet ain't shit for a rifle.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:33:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:35:03 AM EDT
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ahh... but could you have done it with a POS scoped carcano?
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:37:08 AM EDT
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A lot of gun snobs think the AK is a POS too!  And I can hit a target on a dime everytime. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:37:16 AM EDT
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Yep. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:39:35 AM EDT
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check out this article from the April '04 issue of Guns......pretty interesting The Overlooked Carcanos |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:40:52 AM EDT
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I thought he was shot from that book "suppository" building?
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:41:00 AM EDT
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No one has ever been able to duplicate it with the same type rifle that Oswald supposedly used.
I've read a lot about this and my theory is that Oswald was one of three that were shooting and Oswald didn't hit crap. Also believe that the assassins were suppose to take Oswald out when the secret service fired back...which they didn't do, hence his being shot by Ruby later on. From all that I have read, there was the guy not only on the grassy knoll, but another guy in another building to the left of Oswald's position. All in all, we'll never know what really happened or who did it but it's topic that will probably never die. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:41:27 AM EDT
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Didn't you know, everybody on the Internet shoots 1" groups at 100 yards with snubbie revolvers. They could have taken out JFK, the vice pres, AND the security detail with the Carcano, and still have time to smoke a cigarette before getting caught! |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:43:17 AM EDT
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I went to the Book Depository Museum last year.....I remember standing in the window looking down on the "x" on the street thinking that it looked a lot closer than I thought it would be.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:45:11 AM EDT
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Don't forget, gota run down several flights of stairs and grab a soda first before being caught ;) |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:47:37 AM EDT
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Actually, it was duplicated. I've read quite a bit about it, too and visited the Sixth Floor Museum in Dallas many times. If this was such an all-inclusive conspiracy that was bold enough to bump off an American President in broad daylight, then why hide? A conspiracy of that magnitude is obviously not afraid of anything. What it comes down to is nobody wants to believe that some halfwit, like Lee Oswald, could kill a person as powerful and important as the President. He couldn't hold a job, he couldn't complete a Marine enlistment, and he couldn't even hack communism, but he did do this one thing. He did it, by himself, GET OVER IT. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:47:56 AM EDT
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I have been to the Book Depository, too. I was amazed at how close the shots were taken. Like you, my first reaction was, "Damn, even I could hit that."
During the Maryland "sniper" shootings, one of our talking heads stood in a parking lot and then had the camera man zoom out to show what a person looked like at 100 yards. The sniper was making these "incredible" shots at long range. I thought, "Sheesh, 100 yards ain't shit with any kind of rifle, especially an AR-15." It just goes to show you that the general public has no concept of ballistic capabilities of any gun at any range because they have absolutely no experience shooting. Sad really. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:51:30 AM EDT
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I saw a reenactment on discovery. They had a towed car and the shooter fired at the mannequins in it from a scaffold at the same height as the TBD. They used the same kind of gun and mil surplus ammo. There were some failures to fire attributed to the ammo, but when the ammo worked the shooter was able to replicate Oswald's feat. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:55:23 AM EDT
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I think.... ah hell, I have too many opinions on this. I'd just be rehashing what everyone else already thinks. My doing so would'nt help solve any mystery, just add to it.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:56:24 AM EDT
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If oswald acted alone, shooting from behind the motorcade, why does the zapruder film show the president's head moving {kevin costner on} back and to the left, back and to the left {keving costner off}???? |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:59:16 AM EDT
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The jet of blood and brains exiting JFK's head caused a recoil effect... |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:59:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:59:48 AM EDT
[#23]
EXACTLY!!!  |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:01:35 AM EDT
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That's my beef. Why is the back of JFKs head blown off if the shot was from behind? Answer: No fookin way that shot came from the book depository. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:06:56 AM EDT
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Part of the fuel for these conspiracy theories has been provided by the Kennedy family's obsessive desire for privacy and the piss-poor forensics of the day. Add to that the ham-handed investigation, first by the Dallas PD (remember the film of them handling all of the evidence for the press when Kennedy's body was barely cold?) and then the Warren Commission, and you have plenty of stuff to contemplate in books and stupid movies for 40+ years. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:07:29 AM EDT
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the soul may be rotten, but the eyes are wide open |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:08:20 AM EDT
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Okay, then don't watch crap with your open eyes. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:10:29 AM EDT
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That and the magic bullet theory where a single round made multiple 90 degree turns. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:11:58 AM EDT
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Part of the fuel for these conspiracy theories has been provided by the Kennedy family's obsessive desire for privacy and the piss-poor forensics of the day. Add to that the ham-handed investigation, first by the Dallas PD (remember the film of them handling all of the evidence for the press when Kennedy's body was barely cold?) and then the Warren Commission, and you have plenty of stuff to contemplate in books and stupid movies for 40+ years. the last thing I wanted was for this to get personal yes the Dallas PD blew it, and the warren commission was by in large a joke....... However, for one to believe that our government fully discloses everything it knows to common citizens is ludacris. Kennedy made some mistakes, he was invloved with some shady characters. In the course of his administration he made some choices, choices that got people hurt and in the end, he paid for it. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:14:31 AM EDT
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Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the assassination of President Kennedy.
He made three shots at the President, hitting his target twice, missing the first shot only because of the branches in the trees lining Elm Street. If anyone says that it would be different if you were actually shooting a human being, rather than moving targets, then I would say that you don't know the mental makeup of losers like Oswald. They don't think twice about what they are doing to their 'targets.' It's all about them.... Eric The(No-Conspiracy-Geek-Here)Hun 
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:19:12 AM EDT
[#31]
When and by who? I've never heard about it, but then again I really lost interest in this around '92. Was it done after that?
Still don't believe Oswald acted alone. Too many things just don't add up. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:24:37 AM EDT
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Penn and Teller did a good little test in their "How to Play With Your Food" book. They took some melons, wrapped 'em in fiberglass tape to skull thickness, and shot them with a Carcano. Every one that moved did so TOWARDS the rifle. You've got a small entry hole, and a large exit hole. The gunk blasting out the exit hole moved the head (or melon) in the opposite direction, ie: toward the rifle.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:31:40 AM EDT
[#33]
You've already been provided with one duplication. It was also demonstrated on television by the NRA in 1967. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:42:10 AM EDT
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in ref to the magic bullet - that was explained in a history or discovery channel documentary. everyone has always assumed that the car they were in was a normal car. in the documentary they pointed out that Gov Connelly was sitting on a small jump set that was aligned more towards the center of the car than towards the door. If that was indeed the case then the angle of the shot lines up perfectly.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:16:08 AM EDT
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I have heard that. Kind of a shitty question to ask, but is there a website or link that shows the actual video? Also, who was the guy on the grassy knol? Was he ever found or what ever happen to him? |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:22:00 AM EDT
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All I know is that JFK would still be alive today had Ackbar been around.
He died in a Trap. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:26:40 AM EDT
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Probably not. Addison's Disease would have killed him. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:27:26 AM EDT
[#38]
very true
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:31:39 AM EDT
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Post from Rem700PSS:
Ask and ye shall receive! Here are the best views of both wounds, including the 'head shot' that shows that the final bullet came from behind Kennedy! www.zimmermanjfk.com/frontmenu_000010.htm Check it out! Eric The(Historical)Hun
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:35:37 AM EDT
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In this 'negative' video of Zapruder's film, you can actually see the blood spray going forward, not backwards, showing that whatever hit Kennedy's head came from the rear!
www.zimmermanjfk.com/frontmenu_000012.htm By the way, this website is NOT for the faint of heart, I can assure you! Eric The(ConsiderYourselfWarned)Hun
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Posted: 9/3/2004 12:03:50 PM EDT
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Quoted:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quoted: If oswald acted alone, shooting from behind the motorcade, why does the zapruder film show the president's head moving {kevin costner on} back and to the left, back and to the left {keving costner off}???? President Kennedy had a weak back and often wore a brace. Could this brace have affected the way the body and head reacted to being shot from behind? |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 12:13:31 PM EDT
[#42]
OMG! Kennedys been shot?
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Posted: 9/3/2004 3:34:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 3:36:11 PM EDT
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PS: It was a suicide. As I was in the 3rd Grade*, I ought to know.
*Yikes! Has it been That long?!? 
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Posted: 9/3/2004 5:00:36 PM EDT
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Jeez. Not that I'm going to change anyone's mind, but this DVD has much better views. 5 hours long including first hand accounts of people that were there - even at the autopsy who saw the back of his head blown out. Sorry Eric, blood spray does exit towards the shooter. The links you posted prove nothing. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 5:06:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 5:07:40 PM EDT
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Oswald from the Book Depository with the Mannlicher carbine.
I agree. I could have made those shots also. Those of you who buy into all the bullshit theories should quit being led around by the nose by a bunch of charlatans. Look at the info objectively without someone telling you what to believe and the truth will be known to you. Now, is it plausible that there was some form of conspiracy? Sure. But Oswald assassinated JFK. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 6:00:42 PM EDT
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My link points to a DVD for sale. Who are these nutjobs you speak of? |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 6:04:03 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 6:11:08 PM EDT
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home.comcast.net/~donfernandez/JFKassasination.avi www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/jfk-autopsy.html here's every frame: including the grassy knolwww.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/ www.jfkmurdersolved.com/film/AbrahamZapruderFilm.ram |
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