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Posted: 9/3/2004 8:31:40 AM EDT
From a source I trust, it appears that :
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Imagine the folks who could turn out here to hunt those bastards down.
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www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/03/russia.school.quotes/index.html
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You know they need a scapegoat for this mess... the fact that this happened at al showed that the FSB wasn't up to snuff to begin with. |
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What I wouldn't give to be there right now shooting at those animals!!
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Don't know what their plan was, but the civilians added a new dimension to things. I wouldn't sell those Ruskies short, they've been thru this $hit before. But the reality of the situation is that the hostage was pretty goners anyways. |
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There's another pic somewhere of a guy in civilian clothes carrying what looks like a Drag with a "hunting stock" and forearm, but a drag reciever and front sight. |
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I don't know, maybe the citizens are just pissed and don't give a crap anymore with negotiating with them. Can't really say what I would do in this situation, but I could see myself taking action into my own hands if terorist had my family and friends held hostage and it didn't seem like they were going to survive anyway. |
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Just like the Charles Witman case, guys grabbed their hunting rifles and fired back.
+1 on what ever it takes. |
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I'd say so, since they apparently caught one who tried to sneak out and beat him to death. |
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They opened Season on their own asses early this year......
I also wonder what kinda turn out we'd have for them here !!!! |
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If it happened in your town, wouldnt that be the equivalent of grabbing up the SHTF rifle and busting off a few 30rnd mags from your own AR.
I cant see anything wrong with this. Arent all male russians required to have military service, or is that over with now. They should have a little bit of shooting experience if thats the case. Any way More power to them. Hunt them where ever they hide. |
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Any rifle or shotgun you want, including full auto and SBR/SBS. But no handguns of any kind- that does not stop the Mafia though. For the last ten years you could buy a REAL M16A2/A4 or M4/M4A1 carbine in Russia with full auto and all evil features for about 1200 to 1400 US. A couple years ago this question came up and someone posted images of a full color Colt ad IN RUSSIAN. Except for restricting handguns it seems to be kind of like Canada, only with high caps. |
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Hopefully that will send the terrorist a message. Unlike the suicide bombers, these terrorist want to live for some reason. Guess they aren't as dedicated. |
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I sure hope we'd do this here if some idiot did this here. I could see it now: taking aim on the house they're holed up in, you hear someone coming up behind you... Yells out "Arfcom!" and you know they're gonna be a great shot, like pie, and boobies. You all shout "IBTJBT!" as you pick their hiding place apart.
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I just watched the footage on TV, the crowd tore him apart with their bare hands! Andy |
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There is a streaming video feed on the BBC website www.bbc.co.uk ANdy |
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Who has the footage! Sky? BBC? Also
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Terrorists are pussies...this just proves it again... |
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These folks are only brave against unarm women and children. True terrorists in every sense. There's a pic of a man put a white sheet over a dead child at the BBC website. |
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If I had a group of terrorists running down my street and exchanging gunfire with the police, I can tell you for certain what I would do!
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. One could try lunging at one of the female suicide bombers if the male leader and/or a group of male militants are standing nearby. She'd either detonate and take out a mess of them, or would either freeze...or be told not to take them with her. Move quick enough and she'd lose her grip on the detonator. |
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They are called the Militia. Something we used to be prowd of, wrote songs about. Now it isn't even PC enough for the Russians to call them what they are.
I would rather die on my feet. Let's ROLL ASSHOLE. |
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"IBTJBT" Now that made me spew coffee... NICELY DONE! |
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ArmdLbrl, I think that you might be mistaken. I know a Russian guy who is mid-level in a Russian city police force & he hasn't been able to get his hands on an "official" police-owned rifle since he was in the military 10 - 15 years ago. He carries a Makarov & has to qualify with it monthly, but never with any rifles. BTW, he is in Siberia, which is a long way from North Ossetia, so there may be some state/province gun control issues also. If you are right, though, I want to go over there right away, rent an F/A AK at one of their ranges & have some fun! |
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The best-selling deer rifle in Russia is the Tigr, a civilianized version of the Dragunov SVD.
where was this stated? that would be like saying the m1a is the best selling deer rifle in the usa. the tigr is very exspensive compared to the raft of other russian hunting arms avaialable. Its wickedly accurate. compared to 'what'? There's another pic somewhere of a guy in civilian clothes carrying what looks like a Drag with a "hunting stock" and forearm, but a drag reciever and front sight. i believe that was a vepr...a kalashinkov variant built on the rpk receiver by molot and sporterized into a hunting rifle. it could have also be a saiga (sporterized akm) built by izhevsk hunting rifle...the pic was not clear enough to make an accurate determination. |
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No way the US government lets Colt export full-auto -- State Dept makes you have a governmental end-user certificate to export MGs, non ? edit: I cant find any BBC footage/story on the crowd shooting or beating escaped Chechyn terrorists... |
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Russian gun-laws are simple. NO pistols or handguns of any kind unless you're in the Army (and have been issued the pistol), or a police officer.
You need a simple permit to own a shotgun, and a different permit for rifle. I think but I'm not sure, that it's a hunting permit which allows one to own either for hunting, and another permit just for shotguns for home-defense. Atleast that's how I remember it from my last trip to the Ukraine (which as I understand it more or less mirrors Russian gun-laws). |
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I got a Russian friend who say they arent supposed to have em but everyone does. He's an ex para-rescue Afgan vet who recently became an American citizen. |
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Pic on the top looks like a SKS. Bottom is either a Vepr or a Medved. |
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First one is a guy from some mil force I read second is cops.. thats how the pics were labeled in another thread |
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and they say dargs and aks arent "sporting" die import ban die! |
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I got a Russian friend who say they arent supposed to have em but everyone does.
this is, as near as i can determine, the truth of the current state of russian civilian small arms ownership...especially in the southern republics/states. is the medved (bear, in english) still in production? i haven't heard of them for years. for those that are not aware, the medved was (still may be, for all i know) an early civilian variant of the dragunov...although it bore significant modifications. sales were restricted to well placed party officials, back in the soviet day. |
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Cold War's over and the sumbitches are more 'Free' than We are. |
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The sheeple here would not mount an effective resonse like the Russians, I fear. I look forward to them hunting down and lkilling every single one of those vermin. NONE should be taken alive. While any method of dispatching them is acceptable, I favor them being beaten to death or torn apart by an angry mob. We certainly need more of this appropriate response!!!!!
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Dad used to work with a Hungarian immigrant who said it was pretty much the same back in the old country. Enuff vodka, smokes & cash would get you a AK that "fell off the back of a truck" from the nearby underpaid homesick Russki conscript troops. |
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Where I live every third man has been hunting since he could walk, and the police chief who tried to stop the well armed angry mob, would last almost as long as the terrorist piece of shit they would be hunting. |
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for the animals they are ,they should be hunted down and skinned.
f**k em all, these islamic extremist. i'm tired of this sh8t!!!! is it gonna be our school next? what if those were our children, wives and mothers? what are we waiting for? they are KILLING CHILDREN AND WOMEN. our gov't needs to let loose and start kicking the living sh8t every last jihadi vermin. bottom line! meat |
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ARFCOM sponsored range trip to Russia? |
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