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Posted: 8/8/2023 10:05:17 PM EDT
My wife and I are in a position to need a new and bigger vehicle. We have a two year old now and her civic and my ranger aren’t getting any bigger. We have been looking at the Hyundai Tuscon or the Santa Fe until she saw a video on FB someone sent her of a crash test with the explorer coming out on top.
I’ve already explained to her what I know about the water pumps on them from what I’ve read on here about them, but she is dead set on one after that video. They are in our budget as we can get one new locally for around $30k or just a bit more. Edit: a minivan is t out of the question for her, but it needs to be a damn good deal. |
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A parent of a 4-Her in our club has had a loaner more often than her 2022 Explorer when she shows up at club. She's had never ending transmission problems.
Maybe it's a one off? I don't know. |
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Quoted: A parent of a 4-Her in our club has had a loaner more often than her 2022 Explorer when she shows up at club. She's had never ending transmission problems. Maybe it's a one off? I don't know. View Quote I only personally know one person who DD’s an explorer and it’s a 2021. She has close to 70k on it with zero problems. She is a real estate agent hence the mileage in a short span. She loves it. Of course if money weren’t an issue I’d have a 4Runner setting in the driveway lol |
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I drove three Explorers over 20 yrs. Have an F-150 now but would definitely buy another Explorer when I'm done with this truck
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My daughter just bought a brand new 3-row Explorer. It looks significantly nicer than the Exploders from 10-ish years ago. I will be interested to see how it holds up.
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We had a 2013 Explorer. Great vehicle. Traded it for a big 2018 Expedition as our kids got bigger. That thing sucks.
Only issue we had was fuel pump, but it was replaced under warranty. Drove it to 120k i think (6 years). |
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Get the ST, it appears they give them a little more love in assembly.
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Newer ones based off RWD with front assist for AWD are golden.
The older ones that were FWD with rear assist for AWD were trash. |
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MIL had one, nicknamed it the Exploder.
In all fairness, it had 120k miles before the engine blew. |
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Sit in one. They're awkward. Your left foot needs to be turned inward and facing up. Just a ridiculous situation.
Just get a sienna. They're superior to all other mom mobiles unless you need the stow and blow seating from Chrysler. Which really is an amazing feature. |
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They are inclined to roll over under certain conditions particularly ice and snow or cornering at excessive speed. If driven with the understanding that they are top heavy —- higher center of gravity than a 4dr they can be great vehicles. The Toyota 4Runner or Highlander would be my choice in that type.
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Quoted: I only personally know one person who DD's an explorer and it's a 2021. She has close to 70k on it with zero problems. She is a real estate agent hence the mileage in a short span. She loves it. Of course if money weren't an issue I'd have a 4Runner setting in the driveway lol View Quote The base 2.3 EB is good for a sub seven second 0-60, they're great in the snow and they're attractive. Wife wants another when her lease is up. |
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4 runners are not as expensive as you think. Go look at one. Also look at a sequoia.
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Are you talking about the waterpump being behind the timing cover?
1. Issue is way overblown. 9/10 it will last longer than the timing chain. 1/10 you should probably replace your timing chain. 2. There's 2 seals with a weep hole. You have to ignore it leaking antifreeze for some time before the second seal goes. 3. Only an issue on older gen. |
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Don't know a lot about the brand new ones. I have a 13 limited and its been trouble free. It was perfect for the kids games and vacation trips down the coast. 170k on it now and getting a bit long in the tooth. My neighbor bought one in 21 and drives it like he stole it. He has the ST and it moves out for a big gal.
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My mother bought a 2015 new it has had exhaust odor in the cab off and on that they can't fix. Had to have a new transmission ( torque converter ) before it got to 55000 miles. They had to replace the cowl molding twice for wind noise and the power driver seat is broken. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
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I’ve got a 2019. Best ride I’ve ever had in a SUV. Little over 61,000 problem free mikes. I’d buy another.
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Quoted: They are inclined to roll over under certain conditions particularly ice and snow or cornering at excessive speed. If driven with the understanding that they are top heavy —- higher center of gravity than a 4dr they can be great vehicles. The Toyota 4Runner or Highlander would be my choice in that type. View Quote This isn't the 90's and your information is false, a 4runner would tip over now a days more than the modern Explorer..... Cue under a rock meme.... |
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Can get a brand new in the 30s? Do it.
I'll never buy a brand new Ford, but the explorer is one of, if not the best vehicle they've ever made. No nostalgia or such, but one of the best vehicles made. |
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My office manager got a very nice Explorer ST.
Seven months later, it has a very nice new engine after a turbo apparently shat the bed in a manner that required a 3 month stay at the shop. |
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Quoted: My office manager got a very nice Explorer ST. Seven months later, it has a very nice new engine after a turbo apparently shat the bed in a manner that required a 3 month stay at the shop. View Quote And a 3 month stay in the shop should qualify for lemon law in most if not all states. |
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Test drive Honda Pilot, Hyundai Palisade, Kia Telluride, or Subaru Ascent first.
Compare notes. |
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Get a black one with no roof rack so everyone in front of you slows down to 5mph below the speed limit.
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Quoted: 4 runners are not as expensive as you think. Go look at one. Also look at a sequoia. View Quote Oh I have looked. Our local Toyota dealer maaaaaaybe has one on the lot every month and it’s gone. That’s any trim package. The prices are absurd. $40k before taxes and the other add on bs for the most basic load out. For $40k I’ll buy an odyssey or a sienna as a previous poster suggested. However, if I find a new 4Runner for what I’m seeing the explorers listed at then I’ll happily jump on it. |
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Quoted: Are you talking about the waterpump being behind the timing cover? 1. Issue is way overblown. 9/10 it will last longer than the timing chain. 1/10 you should probably replace your timing chain. 2. There's 2 seals with a weep hole. You have to ignore it leaking antifreeze for some time before the second seal goes. 3. Only an issue on older gen. View Quote Maybe so. I’ve read on here more than a few times about the engine having to be pulled due to accessing a bad water pump on them. No specific engine mentioned though. It may very well be a thing of the past. |
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Mine was the same way . Ended up buy a new 2019 Explorer sport with twin turbos . Love that car . Has been back to the dealer zero times .
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I’d consider and ST or a Platinum for my next vehicle.
I have a ‘21 F150 and am driving a ‘23 that the dealership let me borrow. F150 prices are way too damn high. |
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Quoted: This isn't the 90's and your information is false, a 4runner would tip over now a days more than the modern Explorer..... Cue under a rock meme.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They are inclined to roll over under certain conditions particularly ice and snow or cornering at excessive speed. If driven with the understanding that they are top heavy —- higher center of gravity than a 4dr they can be great vehicles. The Toyota 4Runner or Highlander would be my choice in that type. This isn't the 90's and your information is false, a 4runner would tip over now a days more than the modern Explorer..... Cue under a rock meme.... [OP, would it kill you to use a bit more capitalization?] |
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Quoted: Maybe so. I've read on here more than a few times about the engine having to be pulled due to accessing a bad water pump on them. No specific engine mentioned though. It may very well be a thing of the past. View Quote I think they switched to a different engine in 2020 with the new body. |
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If the explorer has a bigger dick than you then it may not workout to well for you.
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We got a new 2017 explorer when our first was born.
Still happy with it. |
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We rented an Explorer on a trip to Santa Fe. We wanted our usual Tahoe, but they didn't have one. It was comfortable, had a nice, quiet ride and was generally just fine. On a trip to San Diego last month we rented a brand new Expedition (again no Tahoe) and it was surprisingly nice. I would say comparable to the Tahoe at this point. My point is that you'll be happy with the explorer. It's a good, solid vehicle. But if you can afford an Expedition or a Tahoe, you'll be happier.
ETA: I'm 6' 1", for reference. |
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My father-in-law's has been out of commission sitting at the dealer since April waiting for some part from China. It's a 2019/2020 if I recall correctly.
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Quoted: Say what you will about his post, but at least his post has a tad more relevancy than my thoughts that this was some bizarre Meriwether Lewis thread. [OP, would it kill you to use a bit more capitalization?] View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They are inclined to roll over under certain conditions particularly ice and snow or cornering at excessive speed. If driven with the understanding that they are top heavy —- higher center of gravity than a 4dr they can be great vehicles. The Toyota 4Runner or Highlander would be my choice in that type. This isn't the 90's and your information is false, a 4runner would tip over now a days more than the modern Explorer..... Cue under a rock meme.... [OP, would it kill you to use a bit more capitalization?] But you seemed to have navigated my meaning just fine. |
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Quoted: 3.5 V6 Ecoboost and non-eco. I think they switched to a different engine in 2020 with the new body. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Maybe so. I've read on here more than a few times about the engine having to be pulled due to accessing a bad water pump on them. No specific engine mentioned though. It may very well be a thing of the past. I think they switched to a different engine in 2020 with the new body. Gotcha thanks for the clarification |
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My 2016 4 Runner has just over 200,000 miles on it it with zero mechanical issues. Nothing done but maintenance. Just saying...
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I drive a 2017 on patrol, if you can mistreat a vehicle in a manner this poor car has seen it.
Water pump did go out at 100k, but didn't hurt anything and in all fairness it has the idle time on the motor of a car with 300k. Transmission has been solid, and it has been thrashed on. The damn thing has hung on around corners when I wasn't sure it was going to and it has yet to not do what I need it to. A small pieces of me will hurt the day I have to turn in 1701. |
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