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Posted: 8/14/2022 1:50:19 PM EDT
Automakers in North America will cut more than 100,000 vehicles from production schedules this week, deepening a broader slump created by the global semiconductor shortage, Automotive News reported Sunday.
The data, which was provided by AutoForecast Solutions, shows that automakers in North America have now skipped the assembly of more than 1 million vehicles since the beginning of 2022. The global semiconductor shortage has impacted nearly 3 million vehicles worldwide this year, according to the data, and nearly 4 million vehicles will be impacted by the year’s end. “We are still looking at a bottom in Q1 2023 with the anticipation of the start of a recovery in Q2. Even then, it is expected to be gradual with peaks and valleys throughout the year,” said Joseph McCabe, CEO of AutoForecast Solutions. This week’s impacted production in North America means the region surpasses Europe as the most affected region worldwide. In July, General Motors said it had nearly 100,000 unfinished vehicles waiting for semiconductors as part of its mid-year update for investors, and other automakers have shipped cars to dealers without some functions such as heated seats due to the chip shortage. Despite the rising shortage, industry analysts and some producers expect the shortage to ease by the end of the year, with relief coming soon. “The good thing to know, it is easing up,” Swiss-based automotive supplier ABB CEO Bjorn Rosengren told Reuters last month. “I would not say the problems are over yet, but we have commitments for the second half which look quite good.” According to AutoForecast, the assembly of 1.04 million vehicles in Europe has been impacted by the shortage, just shy of North America’s 1.06-million mark. Combined, South America, Asia, China, and the Middle East and Africa regions comprise nearly 900,000 more impacted vehicles. Since 2021, production of roughly 13 million cars worldwide has been skipped due to the shortage, although there are encouraging signs. In the data provided by AFS this week, automakers in Europe said they don’t expect an increase in skipped vehicle productions, a signal that there could be positive signs ahead. “Europe staying flat this week is not an indication we are out of the woods in terms of the shortage impact,” McCabe said. “However, it is a good indicator that there may be light at the end of the tunnel.” News Source: The Drive https://techwebtrends.com/news/due-to-a-shortage-of-chips-north-american-automakers-this-week-reduced-production-by-100000-vehicles/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook |
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It's not going to get better for auto makers until they update their outdated chip design that chip makers have no interest in producing any more.
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Quoted: Or - if they really want old ass tech - they can fund and set up their own fabs. By all means go right ahead. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's not going to get better for auto makers until they update their outdated chip design that chip makers have no interest in producing any more. Or - if they really want old ass tech - they can fund and set up their own fabs. By all means go right ahead. |
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Said it before and I'll say it again, I'm so glad my family is good to go on cars for years to come. Oldest is my wife's 2017 GX460. We won't need anything for a long time.
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Quoted: Yeah the Auto industry is going to make it's own FAB when tech companies like NVIDIA and AMD don't have their own because it's not economical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not going to get better for auto makers until they update their outdated chip design that chip makers have no interest in producing any more. Or - if they really want old ass tech - they can fund and set up their own fabs. By all means go right ahead. The issue is the generation of chips that auto makers use. They still use chips from ions ago so the fabs have to tool down and back up again to accommodate the auto manufacturers. Nvidia and amd could probably make their own chips if they weren't the ones always on the bleeding edge. |
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Texas Instruments, Taiwan Semiconductor and GlobalFoundaries all say they have plenty of bandwidth for customer needs. There is no shortage on their end. It lies with the car companies and their inability to supply their customer. It's not a manufacturing issue.
In addition, Intel and Micron are reporting oversupply of their products and lack of demand for their chips. I know a lot more about this on a professional level. Not a chip maker problem. |
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Quoted: Or - if they really want old ass tech - they can fund and set up their own fabs. By all means go right ahead. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's not going to get better for auto makers until they update their outdated chip design that chip makers have no interest in producing any more. Or - if they really want old ass tech - they can fund and set up their own fabs. By all means go right ahead. Old tech is the only tech I want in a vehicle... |
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Quoted: Yeah the Auto industry is going to make it's own FAB when tech companies like NVIDIA and AMD don't have their own because it's not economical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not going to get better for auto makers until they update their outdated chip design that chip makers have no interest in producing any more. Or - if they really want old ass tech - they can fund and set up their own fabs. By all means go right ahead. That's kind of my point. They only wanted the old stuff because it was cheap at the time due to being phased out. The free ride has ended and they can either make their own old ass chips or adapt to new tech like the rest of the planet. Up to them. Quoted: Old tech is the only tech I want in a vehicle... Frankly? Too bad. Buy old vehicles and plenty of parts if that's the route you want to go. Tech advances and auto makers are going to adapt or die. |
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Quoted: Said it before and I'll say it again, I'm so glad my family is good to go on cars for years to come. Oldest is my wife's 2017 GX460. We won't need anything for a long time. View Quote Yeah, until you it gets in a wreck (even not at fault) and it gets totaled or is out of commission for a while due to parts not being available. |
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LOL @ shortage is due to old design comments. Nothing to do with it. I’ve got brand new 2021-2022 gear with new chip designs that are 2 years out and growing. Zero to do with auto industry.
All part of the plan. |
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It's almost like auto makers should start designing vehicles that aren't completely dependent on computers and technology. To bad that's never been done before because everyone knows it would never work.
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Quoted: It's almost like auto makers should start designing vehicles that aren't completely dependent on computers and technology. To bad that's never been done before because everyone knows it would never work. View Quote It wouldn't be compliant with federal laws and regulations. The amount of compulsory crap they have to add is staggering - and the list grows every year. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It's almost like auto makers should start designing vehicles that aren't completely dependent on computers and technology. To bad that's never been done before because everyone knows it would never work. This, easily done given the will And the car would never sell nor comply with federal crushing regulation. The number 1 requirement from car buyers is “how big is the screen and can it play my Apple Music and movies. And does it come with free wifi” I’m not kidding. |
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Quoted: It's almost like auto makers should start designing vehicles that aren't completely dependent on computers and technology. To bad that's never been done before because everyone knows it would never work. View Quote They can't do that and still hit modern efficiency, emissions, and safety requirements. Once again, the government is to blame. |
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Quoted: Careful the retards will dog pile you insisting you're talking about points and condensers, carburetors, drum brakes, valve lash, no AC and some other dumb shit. View Quote We are addicted to our modern conveniences [img]/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/img, my opinion is that there is a market for simple tech vehicles |
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Quoted: We are addicted to our modern conveniences [url]/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/img, my opinion is that there is a market for simple tech vehicles View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Careful the retards will dog pile you insisting you're talking about points and condensers, carburetors, drum brakes, valve lash, no AC and some other dumb shit. We are addicted to our modern conveniences [url]/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/img, my opinion is that there is a market for simple tech vehicles Except for them being illegal to produce and sell sure. Lower tech and substantially lower cost new vehicles would sell. There's as much a market for those as new production civilian legal MGs. Neither are legal. |
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Quoted: Makes you wonder exactly why the laws and reg.s are there? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Except for them being illegal to produce and sell sure. Lower tech and substantially lower cost new vehicles would sell. There's as much a market for those as new production civilian legal MGs. Neither are legal. Makes you wonder exactly why the laws and reg.s are there? I don't wonder even the tiniest bit. |
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Quoted: We are addicted to our modern conveniences [url]/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/img, my opinion is that there is a market for simple tech vehicles View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Careful the retards will dog pile you insisting you're talking about points and condensers, carburetors, drum brakes, valve lash, no AC and some other dumb shit. We are addicted to our modern conveniences [url]/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/img, my opinion is that there is a market for simple tech vehicles Yes. The market for a manual transmission is huge!!! But the market would rather have air condintioned searts. Which I’ll have you know is the greatest car invention since the wheel. |
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Quoted: They can't do that and still hit modern efficiency, emissions, and safety requirements. Once again, the government is to blame. View Quote And when you advocate for rolling regulations back simply 20 years ago? Jimmies rustled. We have an interesting dichotomy here in regards to vehicles. Machines. Firearms are machines. Propose regulation and making things a nuisance MOLON LABE! Undo .gov fuckery to automotive? REEEEEEEEEE! NO! MUH NANNY STATE KNOWZ BEST! MUH CATALYTIC CONVERTERZ! OH NOES! CARBURETORS!? |
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Quoted: Texas Instruments, Taiwan Semiconductor and GlobalFoundaries all say they have plenty of bandwidth for customer needs. There is no shortage on their end. It lies with the car companies and their inability to supply their customer. It's not a manufacturing issue. In addition, Intel and Micron are reporting oversupply of their products and lack of demand for their chips. I know a lot more about this on a professional level. Not a chip maker problem. View Quote I wonder what the problem really is then. Chevrolet says they have 100,000 vehicles make and waiting for chips. What is really going on? |
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Quoted: I wonder what the problem really is then. Chevrolet says they have 100,000 vehicles make and waiting for chips. What is really going on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Texas Instruments, Taiwan Semiconductor and GlobalFoundaries all say they have plenty of bandwidth for customer needs. There is no shortage on their end. It lies with the car companies and their inability to supply their customer. It's not a manufacturing issue. In addition, Intel and Micron are reporting oversupply of their products and lack of demand for their chips. I know a lot more about this on a professional level. Not a chip maker problem. I wonder what the problem really is then. Chevrolet says they have 100,000 vehicles make and waiting for chips. What is really going on? Supply and demand for all semiconductors, not just the auto industry. It’s a huge demand crunch I work in networking. A lot of gear is 9-12 month lead times. And I’m talking 500-1000k dollar routers. Access points? 12 months. |
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Quoted: We are addicted to our modern conveniences [url]/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/img, my opinion is that there is a market for simple tech vehicles View Quote As a matter of fact there is. Florida still having a construction building boom. You name the trade? They are paying their employees extra for using their own personal vehicle because they can't get basic bare bones vans/trucks. And if they can? They're leasing them or renting them. Ever see an Enterprise commercial rental lot? From a bare bones F150 to a Chevy express, to Nissan NVs, ford transits, to International medium duty and F650-750s. They're damn near bare all around. Plumbers HVAC Electricians A/V Home Security Insulation Framers Stucco Concrete Tile Flooring Trim carpenters Appliance You name the trade in residential and commercial construction. Produce work trucks/vans? They'll sell here like hotcakes. |
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Quoted: Careful the retards will dog pile you insisting you're talking about points and condensers, carburetors, drum brakes, valve lash, no AC and some other dumb shit. View Quote Don't forget non power steering, and non hydraulic clutch. Both could give you a good work out. After a heavy leg day, back in the day(early 80's), my left leg would shake while holding down the clutch pedal in my hot rod. Aaaah, good times.......good times. |
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Quoted: As a matter of fact there is. Florida still having a construction building boom. You name the trade? They are paying their employees extra for using their own personal vehicle because they can't get basic bare bones vans/trucks. And if they can? They're leasing them or renting them. Ever see an Enterprise commercial rental lot? From a bare bones F150 to a Chevy express, to Nissan NVs, ford transits, to International medium duty and F650-750s. They're damn near bare all around. Plumbers HVAC Electricians A/V Home Security Insulation Framers Stucco Concrete Tile Flooring Trim carpenters Appliance You name the trade in residential and commercial construction. Produce work trucks/vans? They'll sell here like hotcakes. View Quote Ya, I think a lot of us are convinced that the reg.s and laws can’t be changed and are really needed, a lot of safety and emissions stuff can be kept, even a lot of creature comforts, I’m not against them, just want a basic vehicle that doesn’t require a mortgage and gets me around town and is easy to repair when it does break, I think there is a market for such a vehicle |
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Quoted: Don't forget non power steering, and non hydraulic clutch. Both could give you a good work out. After a heavy leg day, back in the day(early 80's), my left leg would shake while holding down the clutch pedal in my hot rod. Aaaah, good times.......good times. View Quote Don’t need chips for those |
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Quoted: Texas Instruments, Taiwan Semiconductor and GlobalFoundaries all say they have plenty of bandwidth for customer needs. There is no shortage on their end. It lies with the car companies and their inability to supply their customer. It's not a manufacturing issue. In addition, Intel and Micron are reporting oversupply of their products and lack of demand for their chips. I know a lot more about this on a professional level. Not a chip maker problem. View Quote Bull fucking shit with TI. I can't get transceiver chips from them to save my soul. |
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All i fucking want is a new 6.2 motor for my 2016 Denali. Im not asking for much. Just get to work and make that one fucking motor. It's been going on 3 fucking months.
Thank you. |
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Quoted: Texas Instruments, Taiwan Semiconductor and GlobalFoundaries all say they have plenty of bandwidth for customer needs. There is no shortage on their end. It lies with the car companies and their inability to supply their customer. It's not a manufacturing issue. In addition, Intel and Micron are reporting oversupply of their products and lack of demand for their chips. I know a lot more about this on a professional level. Not a chip maker problem. View Quote Interesting, thanks! |
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Quoted: LOL @ shortage is due to old design comments. Nothing to do with it. I’ve got brand new 2021-2022 gear with new chip designs that are 2 years out and growing. Zero to do with auto industry. All part of the plan. View Quote I have Cisco switches with an estimated ship date of March 2023. |
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Quoted: I wonder what the problem really is then. Chevrolet says they have 100,000 vehicles make and waiting for chips. What is really going on? View Quote Talking with a relative at a tier 2 supplier, labor availability at a cost that allows their company to meet desired quantity at the price point they bid per part is a huge issue. Automakers and tier 1s would rather have less parts than raise prices. |
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Automakers got told that they were the only reason some production lines were still running as other customers for those lines had moved onto more modern processes. Those older production lines shut down and are not coming back. Automakers have to get with the times.
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