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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 11:29:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
Hey all you "old" guys who have regrets about not serving, now's your chance to fix that!


Struggling in Ukraine, Russia paves way to sign up over-40s for army
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Hey all you "old" guys who have regrets about not serving, now's your chance to fix that!

LONDON, May 20 (Reuters) - In a sign of Russia's urgent need to bolster its war effort in Ukraine, parliament said on Friday it would consider a bill to allow Russians over 40 and foreigners over 30 to sign up for the military.

The website of the State Duma, parliament's lower house, said the move would enable the military to utilise the skills of older professionals.

"For the use of high-precision weapons, the operation of weapons and military equipment, highly professional specialists are needed. Experience shows that they become such by the age of 4045," it said.

Currently, only Russians aged 18-40 and foreigners aged 18-30 can enter into a first contract with the military.

Russia has suffered huge setbacks and heavy losses of men and equipment in the 86-day-old war, in which Ukraine has mobilised practically its entire adult male population. Despite taking full control of the ruins of Mariupol, Moscow remains far from its objective of seizing all of the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine.

"Clearly, the Russians are in trouble. This is the latest attempt to address manpower shortages without alarming their own population. But it is growing increasingly difficult for the Kremlin to disguise their failures in Ukraine," said retired U.S. General Ben Hodges, a former commander of U.S. Army forces in Europe.

Jack Watling, a land warfare specialist at the British security and defence think tank RUSI, said the Russian military was running short of infantry.

"Russia needs to stabilise manning in its military units in Ukraine and generate new units if it is to improve its position on the ground," he said.

"This will be a slow and complicated process, but can be accelerated by mobilising people with existing skills and military experience."

The Duma said the proposed legislation would also make it easier to recruit civilian medics, engineers and operations and communications specialists.

Separately, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Friday that Russia was forming 12 military units in its western military district in response to rising threats there, citing NATO membership bids by Finland and Sweden.

Struggling in Ukraine, Russia paves way to sign up over-40s for army


The usual Putin ball garglers aren't taking it well in the thread about this.  
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 11:46:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I do totally agree with you.  Just joking about the penetration capabilities of an ATGM vs something as "soft" as a trucks engine block.  
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Would have been a perfect target for an RPG, but you gotta fight with the weapons you've got, and ideally, survive the engagement to fight on. Stugna is a real gem for the Ukrainians - effective, remotely fired, relatively inexpensive and domestically produced.

I hope the orcs haven't been able to hit the Stugna production facilities.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 11:48:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Circuits:

Would have been a perfect target for an RPG, but you gotta fight with the weapons you've got, and ideally, survive the engagement to fight on. Stugna is a real gem for the Ukrainians - effective, remotely fired, relatively inexpensive and domestically produced.

I hope the orcs haven't been able to hit the Stugna production facilities.
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They blew up Luch Design Bureau after the Neptune totally wasn’t involved in the ammunition fire that sank the Moskva.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 11:54:40 AM EDT
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It it funny watching them all swarm for a taste of Putin's man yogurt.
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I'm looking into forward to seeing some memes made out of this.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 12:01:12 PM EDT
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Holy crap!  was that an AS-4 "Kitchen" that hit then?    Ancient anti-ship missile if it was.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Russian missile strike in Lozova.  I freeze framed it, it's one of the subsonic cruise missiles.  Not a ballistic missile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/utvn6g/russian_missile_strike_on_the_house_of_culture_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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"They shot at Lozova with such Soviet shit"



Holy crap!  was that an AS-4 "Kitchen" that hit then?    Ancient anti-ship missile if it was.

Is that a 1000kg explosion?
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Originally Posted By Circuits:

Would have been a perfect target for an RPG, but you gotta fight with the weapons you've got, and ideally, survive the engagement to fight on. Stugna is a real gem for the Ukrainians - effective, remotely fired, relatively inexpensive and domestically produced.

I hope the orcs haven't been able to hit the Stugna production facilities.
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Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I do totally agree with you.  Just joking about the penetration capabilities of an ATGM vs something as "soft" as a trucks engine block.  

Would have been a perfect target for an RPG, but you gotta fight with the weapons you've got, and ideally, survive the engagement to fight on. Stugna is a real gem for the Ukrainians - effective, remotely fired, relatively inexpensive and domestically produced.

I hope the orcs haven't been able to hit the Stugna production facilities.


Your correct about all that, remember when this war started we saw Stugna-p crews being selective of their targets.  The one operator was told to go after the first thing they saw, but the operator waited until he saw a TOS-1.  I'm thinking the sheer volume of heavy anti tank stuff flooding into Ukraine is now allowing more flexibility in taking any shots on Russian equipment.  Same with manpads, now they are shooting cheap drones with them they have so much in the supply.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 12:06:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

Is that a 1000kg explosion?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Russian missile strike in Lozova.  I freeze framed it, it's one of the subsonic cruise missiles.  Not a ballistic missile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/utvn6g/russian_missile_strike_on_the_house_of_culture_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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"They shot at Lozova with such Soviet shit"



Holy crap!  was that an AS-4 "Kitchen" that hit then?    Ancient anti-ship missile if it was.

Is that a 1000kg explosion?


I dont know, but you could see the blast wave when it hit. The missile looked like it had straight wings like the subsonic cruise missiles to me.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


I dont know, but you could see the blast wave when it hit. The missile looked like it had straight wings like the subsonic cruise missiles to me.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Dracster:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Russian missile strike in Lozova.  I freeze framed it, it's one of the subsonic cruise missiles.  Not a ballistic missile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/utvn6g/russian_missile_strike_on_the_house_of_culture_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Claim on Telegram
"They shot at Lozova with such Soviet shit"



Holy crap!  was that an AS-4 "Kitchen" that hit then?    Ancient anti-ship missile if it was.

Is that a 1000kg explosion?


I dont know, but you could see the blast wave when it hit. The missile looked like it had straight wings like the subsonic cruise missiles to me.


Aftermath video from a different angle

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I love how when Russia puts out a “success” claim it’s still pictures like film from a Bigfoot or Loch Ness sighting but when UA puts out videos It’s zoomed in drone video in 4K of lines and lines of burning Russian equipment (see few posts back for both).
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Seven injured including an 11 year old.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 12:19:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Your correct about all that, remember when this war started we saw Stugna-p crews being selective of their targets.  The one operator was told to go after the first thing they saw, but the operator waited until he saw a TOS-1.  I'm thinking the sheer volume of heavy anti tank stuff flooding into Ukraine is now allowing more flexibility in taking any shots on Russian equipment.  Same with manpads, now they are shooting cheap drones with them they have so much in the supply.
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Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I do totally agree with you.  Just joking about the penetration capabilities of an ATGM vs something as "soft" as a trucks engine block.  

Would have been a perfect target for an RPG, but you gotta fight with the weapons you've got, and ideally, survive the engagement to fight on. Stugna is a real gem for the Ukrainians - effective, remotely fired, relatively inexpensive and domestically produced.

I hope the orcs haven't been able to hit the Stugna production facilities.


Your correct about all that, remember when this war started we saw Stugna-p crews being selective of their targets.  The one operator was told to go after the first thing they saw, but the operator waited until he saw a TOS-1.  I'm thinking the sheer volume of heavy anti tank stuff flooding into Ukraine is now allowing more flexibility in taking any shots on Russian equipment.  Same with manpads, now they are shooting cheap drones with them they have so much in the supply.


Maybe it's the angle but the missile doesn't seem to be corkscrewing all over the place like the Soviet designs.

Link Posted: 5/20/2022 12:20:27 PM EDT
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"TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, reports on the use of Su-57 fighters by the Russian Aerospace Forces during a military special operation in Ukraine.

"The use of Su-57 aircraft in Ukraine began two to three weeks after the start of the special operation. The aircraft operate outside the zone of active destruction by enemy air defense systems, using missile weapons," the agency's interlocutor said.

TASS has no official confirmation of this information."

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Originally Posted By Dracster:


Maybe it's the angle but the missile doesn't seem to be corkscrewing all over the place like the Soviet designs.

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I do totally agree with you.  Just joking about the penetration capabilities of an ATGM vs something as "soft" as a trucks engine block.  

Would have been a perfect target for an RPG, but you gotta fight with the weapons you've got, and ideally, survive the engagement to fight on. Stugna is a real gem for the Ukrainians - effective, remotely fired, relatively inexpensive and domestically produced.

I hope the orcs haven't been able to hit the Stugna production facilities.


Your correct about all that, remember when this war started we saw Stugna-p crews being selective of their targets.  The one operator was told to go after the first thing they saw, but the operator waited until he saw a TOS-1.  I'm thinking the sheer volume of heavy anti tank stuff flooding into Ukraine is now allowing more flexibility in taking any shots on Russian equipment.  Same with manpads, now they are shooting cheap drones with them they have so much in the supply.


Maybe it's the angle but the missile doesn't seem to be corkscrewing all over the place like the Soviet designs.



I thought it was a TOW at first, but the missile is spinning in flight, and smokey, so Russian origin.
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Aftermath video from a different angle

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I hope to see the Kremlin in smoking ruins. Along with St Isaac's Square & Palace Square in St Petersburg. In fact I'd like to see all of St Petersburg brought to the same condition as Mariupol.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 12:23:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
Hey all you "old" guys who have regrets about not serving, now's your chance to fix that!


Struggling in Ukraine, Russia paves way to sign up over-40s for army
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
Hey all you "old" guys who have regrets about not serving, now's your chance to fix that!

LONDON, May 20 (Reuters) - In a sign of Russia's urgent need to bolster its war effort in Ukraine, parliament said on Friday it would consider a bill to allow Russians over 40 and foreigners over 30 to sign up for the military.

The website of the State Duma, parliament's lower house, said the move would enable the military to utilise the skills of older professionals.

"For the use of high-precision weapons, the operation of weapons and military equipment, highly professional specialists are needed. Experience shows that they become such by the age of 4045," it said.

Currently, only Russians aged 18-40 and foreigners aged 18-30 can enter into a first contract with the military.

Russia has suffered huge setbacks and heavy losses of men and equipment in the 86-day-old war, in which Ukraine has mobilised practically its entire adult male population. Despite taking full control of the ruins of Mariupol, Moscow remains far from its objective of seizing all of the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine.

"Clearly, the Russians are in trouble. This is the latest attempt to address manpower shortages without alarming their own population. But it is growing increasingly difficult for the Kremlin to disguise their failures in Ukraine," said retired U.S. General Ben Hodges, a former commander of U.S. Army forces in Europe.

Jack Watling, a land warfare specialist at the British security and defence think tank RUSI, said the Russian military was running short of infantry.

"Russia needs to stabilise manning in its military units in Ukraine and generate new units if it is to improve its position on the ground," he said.

"This will be a slow and complicated process, but can be accelerated by mobilising people with existing skills and military experience."

The Duma said the proposed legislation would also make it easier to recruit civilian medics, engineers and operations and communications specialists.

Separately, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Friday that Russia was forming 12 military units in its western military district in response to rising threats there, citing NATO membership bids by Finland and Sweden.

Struggling in Ukraine, Russia paves way to sign up over-40s for army


“Not only can your sons come here to die.
So can your husbands and fathers!”
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
"TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, reports on the use of Su-57 fighters by the Russian Aerospace Forces during a military special operation in Ukraine.

"The use of Su-57 aircraft in Ukraine began two to three weeks after the start of the special operation. The aircraft operate outside the zone of active destruction by enemy air defense systems, using missile weapons," the agency's interlocutor said.

TASS has no official confirmation of this information."

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I'm drooling at the opportunity to see that get shot down.
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
"TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, reports on the use of Su-57 fighters by the Russian Aerospace Forces during a military special operation in Ukraine.

"The use of Su-57 aircraft in Ukraine began two to three weeks after the start of the special operation. The aircraft operate outside the zone of active destruction by enemy air defense systems, using missile weapons," the agency's interlocutor said.

TASS has no official confirmation of this information."

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So they won't fly them in contested airspace....


Not a good look
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"The use of Su-57 aircraft in Ukraine began two to three weeks after the start of the special operation. The aircraft operate outside the zone of active destruction by enemy air defense systems, using missile weapons," the agency's interlocutor said.
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How very Russian. Stealth fighters, intended to be invisible to air defense systems, not allowed to operate in areas containing enemy air defense systems. Yeah, "stealth fighters"
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I'm drooling at the opportunity to see that get shot down.
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The only part of that I believe is that they're not coming anywhere near Ukraine
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Originally Posted By Prime:

The only part of that I believe is that they're not coming anywhere near Ukraine
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


I'm drooling at the opportunity to see that get shot down.

The only part of that I believe is that they're not coming anywhere near Ukraine


lol, it's a missed opportunity for Russia in my opinion to advertise their Aerospace prowess.
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How very Russian. Stealth fighters, intended to be invisible to air defense systems, not allowed to operate in areas containing enemy air defense systems. Yeah, "stealth fighters"
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Not only that but old AD systems.


Granted they probably want to avoid giving us a good look but they went out of their way to avoid mentioning that so now it just looks like they're afraid of old systems.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 12:32:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:


Oh man. There's been a thousand things...

The one that really stands out recently is their lead scientist getting smoked by a satellite remote controlled machine gun that was in a car parked outside his house.
There's also like five or six fires a month in their "Super Secret" manhattan project base out in the desert.
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The fantasy story of the remote control machine gun has been pretty decisively discredit.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 12:35:32 PM EDT
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"Minus the Russian UAV ZALA

Air units of the 30th separate mechanized brigade shot down an enemy ZALA UAV with small arms 5.45
For all about all the costs of BC: one store (30 rounds)!

Glory to Ukraine! "

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Did they wet it down with some diesel?
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You can't make this stuff up:

Russians fortify using bagged ammonium nitrate instead of sandbags.



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Did they wet it down with some diesel?

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Seven injured including an 11 year old.
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Originally Posted By Dracster:


Aftermath video from a different angle

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Seven injured including an 11 year old.

Russians are saying they hit an arsenal.

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Originally Posted By Dracster:

Russians are saying they hit an arsenal.

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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By Dracster:


Aftermath video from a different angle

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Seven injured including an 11 year old.

Russians are saying they hit an arsenal.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-05-20_10-53-26_jpg-2390576.JPG


...But there weren't any secondaries.
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Alleged Wagner involvement here.

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"Knocked-out Ukrainian T-64BV in Olkhovka, Kharkiv region."

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Your correct about all that, remember when this war started we saw Stugna-p crews being selective of their targets.  The one operator was told to go after the first thing they saw, but the operator waited until he saw a TOS-1.  I'm thinking the sheer volume of heavy anti tank stuff flooding into Ukraine is now allowing more flexibility in taking any shots on Russian equipment.  Same with manpads, now they are shooting cheap drones with them they have so much in the supply.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I do totally agree with you.  Just joking about the penetration capabilities of an ATGM vs something as "soft" as a trucks engine block.  

Would have been a perfect target for an RPG, but you gotta fight with the weapons you've got, and ideally, survive the engagement to fight on. Stugna is a real gem for the Ukrainians - effective, remotely fired, relatively inexpensive and domestically produced.

I hope the orcs haven't been able to hit the Stugna production facilities.


Your correct about all that, remember when this war started we saw Stugna-p crews being selective of their targets.  The one operator was told to go after the first thing they saw, but the operator waited until he saw a TOS-1.  I'm thinking the sheer volume of heavy anti tank stuff flooding into Ukraine is now allowing more flexibility in taking any shots on Russian equipment.  Same with manpads, now they are shooting cheap drones with them they have so much in the supply.

A high-percentage RPG shot would need to be within about 200 yards.  A Stunga can do that easily at 2000 yards and can destroy any target, making an attack very low risk for the attacker and making security basically impossible for the Russian army.  Hopefully we will see some in action around Kherson eventually.
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It had an engine and maybe a turret ring?

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Originally Posted By CenterMass762:


I was just about to post a Telegram link to that video.

You can see the driver climbing into the truck at the very beginning of the video. Ouch!
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I was just about to post a Telegram link to that video.

You can see the driver climbing into the truck at the very beginning of the video. Ouch!



And in occupied territory! Very nice
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They had been well protect d behind the line around Mariopul.

Hopefully they get to be on the front line and get slaughtered. They are using up the LND/DNR rebels, then the Chechens, before ethnic Russians start to die.
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Not news but new article, includes a summary of the Prokopenko video this morning.
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There is that whole thing about us supporting their arch enemy Pakistan.  Then the colonialism, I know it wasn't us but the Indians blame us also.


We don’t support Pakistan. In fact, quite the opposite. The only real way we cooperate with Pakistan is on CT, and even that is minimal. We don’t sell them military arms.



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That was 41 years ago and after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.
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Originally Posted By Billy_Ringo:



A hit on the House of Culture.  The House of fucking Culture.

At what point did the Russians include historical and cultural centers as military targets?  Are they afraid that Russians will succumb to Ukrainian native dance hysteria?  Be overcome with an addiction to Ukrainian gardening techniques or holodets and paska?

WTF is wrong with these orcs?  Seriously---there is no explanation.  

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Originally Posted By Billy_Ringo:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Russian missile strike in Lozova.  I freeze framed it, it's one of the subsonic cruise missiles.  Not a ballistic missile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/utvn6g/russian_missile_strike_on_the_house_of_culture_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3



A hit on the House of Culture.  The House of fucking Culture.

At what point did the Russians include historical and cultural centers as military targets?  Are they afraid that Russians will succumb to Ukrainian native dance hysteria?  Be overcome with an addiction to Ukrainian gardening techniques or holodets and paska?

WTF is wrong with these orcs?  Seriously---there is no explanation.  



If genocide is the military goal, then the culture centers are military targets.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 1:40:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ridgeline:


That isn't  WP. I think they call that Felt Wedge. It's  some sort of smoke round.

I don't  disagree  with the sentiment though.
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Originally Posted By Ridgeline:
Originally Posted By kbi:




Hope we accidently gave the ukrainians some willie pete artillery shells


https://shiawaves.com/english/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/04/images_2015_04_21_03.jpg

fn ORC's


That isn't  WP. I think they call that Felt Wedge. It's  some sort of smoke round.

I don't  disagree  with the sentiment though.


It is WP. It is pieces of felt impregnated with WP.

ETA: Beat rather savagely.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 1:41:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:


If I had seen that any time after February of this year I might have thought it was a T72 turret.
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

I, by some amazing chance of deciding to walk the dog when I did, managed to see Kosmos-2551 re-enter after failure back in October.

One of the most spectacular things I've seen in the night sky! Looked like something right out of a movie. Thanks Putin!



If I had seen that any time after February of this year I might have thought it was a T72 turret.

Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:00:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Claim on Telegram
“They shot at Lozova with such Soviet shit”
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Russian missile strike in Lozova.  I freeze framed it, it's one of the subsonic cruise missiles.  Not a ballistic missile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/utvn6g/russian_missile_strike_on_the_house_of_culture_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Claim on Telegram
“They shot at Lozova with such Soviet shit”


But buh but Russia doesn't target citizens or culture targets
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:02:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bikedamon:


The usual Putin ball garglers aren't taking it well in the thread about this.  
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
Hey all you "old" guys who have regrets about not serving, now's your chance to fix that!

LONDON, May 20 (Reuters) - In a sign of Russia's urgent need to bolster its war effort in Ukraine, parliament said on Friday it would consider a bill to allow Russians over 40 and foreigners over 30 to sign up for the military.

The website of the State Duma, parliament's lower house, said the move would enable the military to utilise the skills of older professionals.

"For the use of high-precision weapons, the operation of weapons and military equipment, highly professional specialists are needed. Experience shows that they become such by the age of 4045," it said.

Currently, only Russians aged 18-40 and foreigners aged 18-30 can enter into a first contract with the military.

Russia has suffered huge setbacks and heavy losses of men and equipment in the 86-day-old war, in which Ukraine has mobilised practically its entire adult male population. Despite taking full control of the ruins of Mariupol, Moscow remains far from its objective of seizing all of the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine.

"Clearly, the Russians are in trouble. This is the latest attempt to address manpower shortages without alarming their own population. But it is growing increasingly difficult for the Kremlin to disguise their failures in Ukraine," said retired U.S. General Ben Hodges, a former commander of U.S. Army forces in Europe.

Jack Watling, a land warfare specialist at the British security and defence think tank RUSI, said the Russian military was running short of infantry.

"Russia needs to stabilise manning in its military units in Ukraine and generate new units if it is to improve its position on the ground," he said.

"This will be a slow and complicated process, but can be accelerated by mobilising people with existing skills and military experience."

The Duma said the proposed legislation would also make it easier to recruit civilian medics, engineers and operations and communications specialists.

Separately, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Friday that Russia was forming 12 military units in its western military district in response to rising threats there, citing NATO membership bids by Finland and Sweden.

Struggling in Ukraine, Russia paves way to sign up over-40s for army


The usual Putin ball garglers aren't taking it well in the thread about this.  



Link?
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:03:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rca2222:

Was that article before all of the sanctions and promises of military equipment? It was going to be an obvious shitshow for Russia before they ever stepped over the border.
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Originally Posted By rca2222:
Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By rca2222:

I still believe that he didn't actually want to invade, regardless of all of his bluster. He wanted to win through intimidation without firing a shot in Ukraine. He no longer believed that he could invade Poland and the Baltics than I believe I could have a dirty weekend with Jennifer Aniston.

Completely untrue  I posted an article written before the invasion by a Russian defense analyst.  He predicted the entire course of the war and gave insight into Russia's jingoism and total lack of critical thought regarding Ukraine.  Summing it up, Russia thought that the invasion would be a walkover.  Yes, they intended to invade and take over the whole country.  They thought it would be over in hours if not (ridiculously) minutes.  A lot of people on both sides are paying for their stupidity.

Was that article before all of the sanctions and promises of military equipment? It was going to be an obvious shitshow for Russia before they ever stepped over the border.


What is surprising is how easily Russia annexed the Crimea.  The lack of serious consequences lulled Putin into believing it would be just as easy to take all of Ukraine.

And obviously no one dared disagree with him.  
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:15:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:


The fantasy story of the remote control machine gun has been pretty decisively discredit.
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Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:
Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:


Oh man. There's been a thousand things...

The one that really stands out recently is their lead scientist getting smoked by a satellite remote controlled machine gun that was in a car parked outside his house.
There's also like five or six fires a month in their "Super Secret" manhattan project base out in the desert.


The fantasy story of the remote control machine gun has been pretty decisively discredit.


Discredited?

Article and photos in the link. Also New York Times.
Also Washington Post
Also LA Times
...

You may have missed it. If you go to google and search for "Israeli Remote Controlled Gun" you'll see what I'm talking about.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:16:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dominion21:
What is surprising is how easily Russia annexed the Crimea.  The lack of serious consequences lulled Putin into believing it would be just as easy to take all of Ukraine.
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Ukraine in 2014 was the scrawny kid who got beat up and shoved into his locker by the jock bully, then started lifting and taking martial arts classes so it'd never happen again.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:27:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:



So they won't fly them in contested airspace....


Not a good look
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By Dracster:
"TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, reports on the use of Su-57 fighters by the Russian Aerospace Forces during a military special operation in Ukraine.

"The use of Su-57 aircraft in Ukraine began two to three weeks after the start of the special operation. The aircraft operate outside the zone of active destruction by enemy air defense systems, using missile weapons," the agency's interlocutor said.

TASS has no official confirmation of this information."

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-05-20_06-30-21_jpg-2390557.JPG



So they won't fly them in contested airspace....


Not a good look

That's what I thought too.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:31:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jungatheart:

That's what I thought too.
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Originally Posted By jungatheart:
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By Dracster:
"TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, reports on the use of Su-57 fighters by the Russian Aerospace Forces during a military special operation in Ukraine.

"The use of Su-57 aircraft in Ukraine began two to three weeks after the start of the special operation. The aircraft operate outside the zone of active destruction by enemy air defense systems, using missile weapons," the agency's interlocutor said.

TASS has no official confirmation of this information."

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-05-20_06-30-21_jpg-2390557.JPG



So they won't fly them in contested airspace....

Not a good look

That's what I thought too.



Most of the RU AF has been doing the same. On the other hand, Russia only has a handful of serialized Su-57.

The Su-57 got sent to Syria too but I doubt they performed any missions. Just an "evaluation" or something to that effect.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:34:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/20/2022 2:35:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Circuits:

Ukraine in 2014 was the scrawny kid who got beat up and shoved into his locker by the jock bully, then started lifting and taking martial arts classes so it'd never happen again.
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Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By Dominion21:
What is surprising is how easily Russia annexed the Crimea.  The lack of serious consequences lulled Putin into believing it would be just as easy to take all of Ukraine.

Ukraine in 2014 was the scrawny kid who got beat up and shoved into his locker by the jock bully, then started lifting and taking martial arts classes so it'd never happen again.

The pro-Russian Ukrainians still had positions of power. The military units in Crimea were told to stand down. I still remember watching on the CCTV being streamed as the Russians rolled up to the gates of Belbek air base.
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