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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:09:33 PM EDT
[#1]
 The battle of Donbas: What's Putin's plan for Ukraine now? • FRANCE 24 English |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:10:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
The Germans are displeased with their political leaders shit handling of Ukraine. It is as if a European nation when pondering the best course of action they only have to ask what Germany is doing then do the exact opposite It is hard to understand the land of Porsche and Mercedes being so disturbingly incompetent |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:11:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: I agree. Russia is out for blood, most especially AZOV blood. If anything, killing them to the last gives them an out from a propaganda aspect. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
Russia already gave a no-quarter order. Maybe the Turks could workout an escort by sea escape route? They did assist with the Muskova rescue. Maybe that would be a workable solution. That said, I highly doubt Russia would agree. I don't think they'll settle for anything other than extermination. I agree. Russia is out for blood, most especially AZOV blood. If anything, killing them to the last gives them an out from a propaganda aspect. The way I see it, they're going to eventually declare a ceasefire "to negotiate for peace" after achieving 3 conditions. 1. Damage enough of Ukraine's military, defense industry, and economy to be able to declare demilitarization. 2. Eliminating Azov so they can declare successful denazification. 3. Occupying a large enough part of Novorossiya to declare liberation. I think those will be important for domestic consumption. In the occupied areas they'll hold their fake independence referendums and eliminate/relocate anyone who believes in Ukrainian identity to further neuter any resistance. Then they'll use years of "ceasefire" time to recover and rearm while constantly working to destabilize and weaken the Ukrainian government. When the time is right they'll try again. ETA: 1 and 2 are propaganda that they can declare whenever they feel like it. I don't think they'll achieve #3. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:11:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Well that ain’t good.
What’s the answer |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:11:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: couchlord]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: Anyone else notice we have been keeping 2 of these big birds in the air lately, instead of just one at any given time?  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/Screenshot_20220419-202417_Brave_jpg-2355047.JPG Both just simultaneously dropped off the exchange. It's happening, isn't it?? eta nevermind |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:15:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord: Both just simultaneously dropped off the exchange. It's happening, isn't it?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord: Originally Posted By grambosc: Anyone else notice we have been keeping 2 of these big birds in the air lately, instead of just one at any given time? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/Screenshot_20220419-202417_Brave_jpg-2355047.JPG Both just simultaneously dropped off the exchange. It's happening, isn't it?? bugsbunny_no.jpg Tac bombers don't run adsb on a mission profile. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:15:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:16:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Good, they should be. It was a wishy-washy and shitty statement. Complete absence of leadership from the largest economy in Europe.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
The Germans are displeased with their political leaders shit handling of Ukraine. Good, they should be. It was a wishy-washy and shitty statement. Complete absence of leadership from the largest economy in Europe. They've gutted the military to the point they have nothing to send? Why they're seeing what they can produce in short order to fill in anything they might want to? |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:19:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: Well, those are both B52s, not just anything. No idea what their cargoes are, but I have a few guesses. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: Originally Posted By Element94: Originally Posted By grambosc: Anyone else notice we have been keeping 2 of these big birds in the air lately, instead of just one at any given time? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/Screenshot_20220419-202417_Brave_jpg-2355047.JPG Ive always seen two, since the beginning. Edit - Didnt notice over the US. Thought you were talking about eastern Europe. Over US could be anything. Well, those are both B52s, not just anything. No idea what their cargoes are, but I have a few guesses. Well don’t guess “nukes” because it wouldn’t be. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: If I was working this deal they would go to a Swiss POW camp for a year. Seems like a good place to refit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Zam18th: I agree the Turks are the only ones that could swing it. They're in a position where the Russians do not want to piss them off. That said, I highly doubt Russia would agree. I don't think they'll settle for anything other than extermination. If I was working this deal they would go to a Swiss POW camp for a year. Seems like a good place to refit. Sounds good to me. Maybe they could have an arts and crafts program run by NATO advisors and weapons experts.  |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: He’s not falling into a trap,he was bloviating about how Russia should release what it knows about Hunter Biden 3 weeks ago. Because our fifth column news media will not do it, but instead actively hide the information It’s a jab, but frankly most people are not smart enough to pick up on that He did the same thing with hillery and her bathroom server and blackberries. The payments were made, and then the access codes were sent to the foreign interests on the blackberry, to access the classified information on the server. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:22:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Russia be trolling
Guarantee you they dropped that big bomb drop earlier, some dudes popped out of a hole and smoked a Chechen, and they said “F it, we need to take a breather and do our usual negotiation bullshit”, probably unilaterally, and despite the fact that Kadyrov promised Azov would be done today. In fact this might be so that he can go to Moscow and explain himself. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:22:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: This is a good thread that shows who the Russian army is actually composed of,rural kids who didn’t have the ability to buy themselves a case of asthma.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Interesting stuff. Goes back to just a fraction of what a few of us have been saying in GD for years (aka Putin is NOT good for Russia, he's a tyrant and a thug only concerned with power and his own wealth). This is a good thread that shows who the Russian army is actually composed of,rural kids who didn’t have the ability to buy themselves a case of asthma.
Damn. Honestly, that's sad. Shows the power of information. At least these people have an excuse, unlike Americans. ‘We have to believe Sergey didn't die in vain,’ his aunt Svetlana told me. The alternative for these people does not bear thinking about. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:23:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: They've gutted the military to the point they have nothing to send? Why they're seeing what they can produce in short order to fill in anything they might want to? In the past few years there were wide dpread reports that their EuroFighters were neutered due to the sensors needing replaced and the company that made them shut down due to no workers. The Navy was almost stuck in port due to a lack of parts and the tanks were almost all sold to Poland. The parts wete to come from migrant workers they let in through the front door. They decided that welfare was better than work. Germany is getting what they deserve. It's pathetic, but at least they have millions if solar pannels (in a cloudy country) to show for it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:24:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Ebay link please. Hobbyking or BangGood has them. You apply the camo I think readymade RC also sells a similar foam model |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:25:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: I saw this on Youtube. Dismissed it, since it was CNN, until the part with Andrew Milburn. 2:35. Doesn't sound good from what he says  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaC8l16AHxMQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By sq40: Probably so. It seems that Russia is getting bogged down a bit, losing some ground too. It’s a dog fight for now. I just hope this exhausts Russia to the point that they have to stop and then reverse. the stuff I read said UKR was being pushed back? I saw this on Youtube. Dismissed it, since it was CNN, until the part with Andrew Milburn. 2:35. Doesn't sound good from what he says https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaC8l16AHxMSounded like he said they're about to go on the offensive |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:25:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
Does not look like the steel plant. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:26:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Don’t believe this has been posted yet: https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1516523635976151048?s=21&t=qmI_fCKqP75uwVF4Y_7pEw US announces another $800M weapons aid package for Ukraine. I guess that answers the Russian threat after the last aid package, although it would’ve been a nice touch to make it $801M. Has been posted several times over the last week or so. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:26:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glock63: Since when? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glock63: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Russia does have total air superiority tho Since when? Not sure, was just quoting Russian shills |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Dutch.gov says Fighters AND Parts The word 'parts' here can mean like 'spare parts' or 'accesories' Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Originally Posted By belted_guns: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Pentagon spokesman John Kirby did not offer details on which countries provided aircraft, but acknowledged new transfers and said Ukraine had more operable fighter aircraft than it had two weeks ago But are there weapons to hang on the aircraft? Dutch.gov says Fighters AND Parts The word 'parts' here can mean like 'spare parts' or 'accesories' Poland is giving 100 R-73 AAMs. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: bugsbunny_no.jpg Tac bombers don't run adsb on a mission profile. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By couchlord: Originally Posted By grambosc: Anyone else notice we have been keeping 2 of these big birds in the air lately, instead of just one at any given time? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/Screenshot_20220419-202417_Brave_jpg-2355047.JPG Both just simultaneously dropped off the exchange. It's happening, isn't it?? bugsbunny_no.jpg Tac bombers don't run adsb on a mission profile. At least not once they leave domestic airspace |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:31:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: Yet people here shit on Trump for urging them to reach an agreement before everyone ends up dead. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: Originally Posted By Prime:
Yet people here shit on Trump for urging them to reach an agreement before everyone ends up dead. I wonder what kind of agreement would realistically be possible that Ukraine would find acceptable. Doesn't seem likely. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:33:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:34:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: THOT_Vaccine]
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IIRC there's B1s in Poland right now. ithappening.jpg scenario starts dark and quiet and doesn't need refueling most likely.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:34:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: YaNi05]
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Quote HistoryIs this guy trolling? The comments are 100% pro Russian. And comments like: "We are in the final phase of this war. Right now there are between 40 and 60,000 Ukrainian troops left in eastern Ukraine.... russian army is going to move very carefully to avoid civilian casualties there, but they will annihilate these Ukrainian troops." -Teh Colonel Sounds like Russian propaganda to me... Just like how they were going to annihilate the UA on the way to taking Kyiv in 72 hours... |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ruin: Well don’t guess “nukes” because it wouldn’t be. I was thinking more conventional headache makers, but with the initial headings of North and East, one might still wonder if they had some AGM "car batteries" of the '86 vintage on board. They're old birds, but not in the boneyard yet, and still have an important place in the triad. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:35:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: In many places they are, but slowly. I guess I was expecting Russia to overextend more. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By sq40: Probably so. It seems that Russia is getting bogged down a bit, losing some ground too. It’s a dog fight for now. I just hope this exhausts Russia to the point that they have to stop and then reverse. the stuff I read said UKR was being pushed back? In many places they are, but slowly. I guess I was expecting Russia to overextend more. If Russia is intentionally moving slow it may be on purpose. Allowing supply lines to stay with them. Slow and steady wins the race…..no running away from supply lines. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:37:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: I suspect that there are a number of German politicians who are concerned about facts coming to light regarding German energy policy decisions over the last 15 years. Deeply concerned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
The Germans are displeased with their political leaders shit handling of Ukraine. I suspect that there are a number of German politicians who are concerned about facts coming to light regarding German energy policy decisions over the last 15 years. Deeply concerned. Concerned enough o grab a suitcase of cash and run to Russia to avoid the raids/arrest/trials? |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:38:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Is this guy trolling? The comments are 100% pro Russian. And comments like: "We are in the final phase of this war. Right now there are between 40 and 60,000 Ukrainian troops left in eastern Ukraine.... russian army is going to move very carefully to avoid civilian casualties there, but they will annihilate these Ukrainian troops." -Teh Colonel Sounds like Russian propaganda to me... Just like how they were going to annihilate the UA on the way to taking Kyiv in 72 hours... |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:41:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:42:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: I was a kid in the 80s, and we didn't have ADSB to stare at slack jawed like I can now.  Until this week, there was usually just one in the air, or one going out as one returned. Seems at least mildly interesting that they are putting more hours on and fuel through them now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: Originally Posted By Bullet_: Originally Posted By grambosc: Anyone else notice we have been keeping 2 of these big birds in the air lately, instead of just one at any given time? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/Screenshot_20220419-202417_Brave_jpg-2355047.JPG I'm old enough to remember when every B52 that didn't have a crash enviable dead line fault, was sent airborne. I was a kid in the 80s, and we didn't have ADSB to stare at slack jawed like I can now. Until this week, there was usually just one in the air, or one going out as one returned. Seems at least mildly interesting that they are putting more hours on and fuel through them now. What I’ve found interesting is the number of tankers on adsb. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Azygos: What I’ve found interesting is the number of tankers on adsb. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Azygos: Originally Posted By grambosc: Originally Posted By Bullet_: Originally Posted By grambosc: Anyone else notice we have been keeping 2 of these big birds in the air lately, instead of just one at any given time? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/Screenshot_20220419-202417_Brave_jpg-2355047.JPG I'm old enough to remember when every B52 that didn't have a crash enviable dead line fault, was sent airborne. I was a kid in the 80s, and we didn't have ADSB to stare at slack jawed like I can now. Until this week, there was usually just one in the air, or one going out as one returned. Seems at least mildly interesting that they are putting more hours on and fuel through them now. What I’ve found interesting is the number of tankers on adsb. We are all over the place. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:46:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMacGregor is a fucking joke and you can’t take him seriously. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: If Russia is intentionally moving slow it may be on purpose. Allowing supply lines to stay with them. Slow and steady wins the race…..no running away from supply lines. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By sq40: Probably so. It seems that Russia is getting bogged down a bit, losing some ground too. It’s a dog fight for now. I just hope this exhausts Russia to the point that they have to stop and then reverse. the stuff I read said UKR was being pushed back? In many places they are, but slowly. I guess I was expecting Russia to overextend more. If Russia is intentionally moving slow it may be on purpose. Allowing supply lines to stay with them. Slow and steady wins the race…..no running away from supply lines. Ukraine needs a way to rain more hell on those supply lines again like they did around Kyiv. They might be better defended now, but those fuel trucks should still make nice big booms. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:46:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Has been posted several times over the last week or so. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By Capta: Don’t believe this has been posted yet: https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1516523635976151048?s=21&t=qmI_fCKqP75uwVF4Y_7pEw US announces another $800M weapons aid package for Ukraine. I guess that answers the Russian threat after the last aid package, although it would’ve been a nice touch to make it $801M. Has been posted several times over the last week or so. @dillydilly This is another 800m about to be announced, not last weeks. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:47:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: I saw this on Youtube. Dismissed it, since it was CNN, until the part with Andrew Milburn. 2:35. Doesn't sound good from what he says https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaC8l16AHxMWar sucks. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:48:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: We are all over the place. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Azygos: Originally Posted By grambosc: Originally Posted By Bullet_: Originally Posted By grambosc: Anyone else notice we have been keeping 2 of these big birds in the air lately, instead of just one at any given time? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/Screenshot_20220419-202417_Brave_jpg-2355047.JPG I'm old enough to remember when every B52 that didn't have a crash enviable dead line fault, was sent airborne. I was a kid in the 80s, and we didn't have ADSB to stare at slack jawed like I can now. Until this week, there was usually just one in the air, or one going out as one returned. Seems at least mildly interesting that they are putting more hours on and fuel through them now. What I’ve found interesting is the number of tankers on adsb. We are all over the place. It's money well spent right now. God bless all of you. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:49:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Sounds good to me. Maybe they could have an arts and crafts program run by NATO advisors and weapons experts. I was thinking skiing and fucking tourists at a POW camp deep in the mountains. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:49:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: I saw this on Youtube. Dismissed it, since it was CNN, until the part with Andrew Milburn. 2:35. Doesn't sound good from what he says https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaC8l16AHxMThat matches what I have heard here and there. Stuff gets stuck in Lviv, while frontline units are going begging. Quite frankly there is not enough NGOs focusing on delivering stuff to the front, it's all demand-driven - i.e. if the unit managed to dispatch supply people back to Kiev or Lviv, and if they manage to connect with the right NGO, and if the NGO has what they need - they might get it. Or not. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:50:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: IIRC there's B1s in Poland right now. ithappening.jpg scenario starts dark and quiet and doesn't need refueling most likely. Well the B1 is no longer a strategic bomber so it’s not happening with it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHe got demoted from Russia Today to Tucker Carlson and is now on Basement TV?  Better there than providing his wisdom in the White House. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:51:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: MacGregor is a fucking joke and you can’t take him seriously. While he makes a fair point that Putin isn’t the origin of our pain, he’s also making other assertive statements that aren’t necessarily true. He peaked in Desert Storm so I’ve ignored him for over a decade. Nothing to with Ukraine, long ago after reading his stuff I was unimpressed. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Is this guy trolling? The comments are 100% pro Russian. And comments like: "We are in the final phase of this war. Right now there are between 40 and 60,000 Ukrainian troops left in eastern Ukraine.... russian army is going to move very carefully to avoid civilian casualties there, but they will annihilate these Ukrainian troops." -Teh Colonel Sounds like Russian propaganda to me... Just like how they were going to annihilate the UA on the way to taking Kyiv in 72 hours... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: And comments like: "We are in the final phase of this war. Right now there are between 40 and 60,000 Ukrainian troops left in eastern Ukraine.... russian army is going to move very carefully to avoid civilian casualties there, but they will annihilate these Ukrainian troops." -Teh Colonel Sounds like Russian propaganda to me... Just like how they were going to annihilate the UA on the way to taking Kyiv in 72 hours... I bet there are 200k UA armed forces in that part of the country. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: If Russia is intentionally moving slow it may be on purpose. Allowing supply lines to stay with them. Slow and steady wins the race…..no running away from supply lines. Being slowed by your own supply lines is a bad thing. Not as bad as outrunning them but when you have the enemy running the last thing you want is to give him a breather. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:54:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:54:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: He peaked in Desert Storm Doing Captain things, when people are paying him to bloviate about things well above or outside of Captain things. And he’s responsible for the BCTs. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:54:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Currently Ukrainian 152MM ML-20 has a maximum firing range of (10.7 miles) US 155mm can fire a 100lb HE projectile to a maximum range of (14.7 miles) *Excalibur rounds - Excalibur was developed as a longer-ranged alternative to conventional artillery shells, with GPS guidance for improved accuracy. Excalibur has a range of approximately (25 to 35 mi) depending on configuration, with a circular error probable (CEP) of 4 m. The extended range is achieved through the use of folding glide fins, which allow the projectile to glide from the top of a ballistic arc towards the target. The munition was co-developed by United States-based Raytheon Missile Systems (guidance system) and the Swedish BAE Systems Bofors (body, base, ballistics and payload). Excalibur is used to minimize collateral damage, for targets beyond the range of standard munitions, for precise firing within 150 meters (490 ft) of friendly troops, or when firing in a straight line from the launching cannon is limited by terrain. It has a multi-function fuze that can be programmed to explode in the air, once it hits a hard surface, or after it penetrates inside a target. One Excalibur projectile can accurately hit an intended target that would require the use of between 10 and 50 unguided artillery rounds. http://www.military-today.com/artillery/m982_excalibur.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/CheckExcalibur_conv.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: US to train Ukrainians on howitzer artillery systems in next days Artillery is part of $800m military aid package that US says will help Ukraine defend against Russian offensive in east. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/18/us-to-train-ukrainians-on-howitzer-artillery-systems-in-next-days The United States plans to begin training Ukrainians on how to operate howitzer artillery systems in the coming days, a senior US defence official has said, as the Biden administration seeks to bolster Ukraine’s defences against an expected Russian offensive in the east. The 155mm howitzer cannons are part of an additional $800m weapons package for Ukraine that US President Joe Biden announced last week. It also includes other artillery systems, artillery rounds, armoured personnel carriers and helicopters. Currently Ukrainian 152MM ML-20 has a maximum firing range of (10.7 miles) US 155mm can fire a 100lb HE projectile to a maximum range of (14.7 miles) *Excalibur rounds - Excalibur was developed as a longer-ranged alternative to conventional artillery shells, with GPS guidance for improved accuracy. Excalibur has a range of approximately (25 to 35 mi) depending on configuration, with a circular error probable (CEP) of 4 m. The extended range is achieved through the use of folding glide fins, which allow the projectile to glide from the top of a ballistic arc towards the target. The munition was co-developed by United States-based Raytheon Missile Systems (guidance system) and the Swedish BAE Systems Bofors (body, base, ballistics and payload). Excalibur is used to minimize collateral damage, for targets beyond the range of standard munitions, for precise firing within 150 meters (490 ft) of friendly troops, or when firing in a straight line from the launching cannon is limited by terrain. It has a multi-function fuze that can be programmed to explode in the air, once it hits a hard surface, or after it penetrates inside a target. One Excalibur projectile can accurately hit an intended target that would require the use of between 10 and 50 unguided artillery rounds. http://www.military-today.com/artillery/m982_excalibur.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/CheckExcalibur_conv.jpg I'm really hoping we're sending Excalibur; that would make the 40k rounds have a really outsized impact. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Is this guy trolling? The comments are 100% pro Russian. And comments like: "We are in the final phase of this war. Right now there are between 40 and 60,000 Ukrainian troops left in eastern Ukraine.... russian army is going to move very carefully to avoid civilian casualties there, but they will annihilate these Ukrainian troops." -Teh Colonel Sounds like Russian propaganda to me... Just like how they were going to annihilate the UA on the way to taking Kyiv in 72 hours... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: And comments like: "We are in the final phase of this war. Right now there are between 40 and 60,000 Ukrainian troops left in eastern Ukraine.... russian army is going to move very carefully to avoid civilian casualties there, but they will annihilate these Ukrainian troops." -Teh Colonel Sounds like Russian propaganda to me... Just like how they were going to annihilate the UA on the way to taking Kyiv in 72 hours... OD-Man is a Putin Puffer. So is MacGregor, or might as well be. MacGregor was urging capitulation by day three and predicting it was all over. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:58:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dillydilly]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: @dillydilly This is another 800m about to be announced, not last weeks. Ah ok. The same amount as before seems odd. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:00:07 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Is this guy trolling? The comments are 100% pro Russian. And comments like: "We are in the final phase of this war. Right now there are between 40 and 60,000 Ukrainian troops left in eastern Ukraine.... russian army is going to move very carefully to avoid civilian casualties there, but they will annihilate these Ukrainian troops." -Teh Colonel Sounds like Russian propaganda to me... Just like how they were going to annihilate the UA on the way to taking Kyiv in 72 hours... He was predicting the Ukrainian army to be destroyed in the first couple days but he also said that the Russians would “annihilate” an American armored division so it’s not like you would have done any better 🤷🏼♂️ |
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