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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:11:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mancow:


Supposedly, yes.
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The investigators matched the oddly shaped holes in a piece of the port side of the cockpit with the unique shrapnel that is packed around the BUC's explosive warhead. So I would say they nailed it.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:11:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


We need to have Belarus start a civil war.
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Send Victoria Nueland and zombie John McCain, apparently they can create a color revolution out of thin air and overthrow a freely elected Russian puppet government according to the Fellow Travelers.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:13:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7empest:



Man it isn't just her.


On Twitter I followed everyone from Rageaholic to MTG to Lauren Boebert to Aaron Lewis until they started swinging on Putin's nutsack.  Aaron Lewis was the one that really disappointed me was a fan of his since Staind
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Originally Posted By 7empest:
Originally Posted By Chaingun:
MTG is a big kick in the pants

I liked her attitude...until her opinion of UA



Man it isn't just her.


On Twitter I followed everyone from Rageaholic to MTG to Lauren Boebert to Aaron Lewis until they started swinging on Putin's nutsack.  Aaron Lewis was the one that really disappointed me was a fan of his since Staind

Just look at the list of things who the Russians did and didn't apply sanctions.too.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:13:42 PM EDT
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Too bad Roman Bykovsky didn't show up on RF200_now as a "pogib" for everyone to forward to Olga with emotes
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:14:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
JFC...  looks like it's race between eastern Europe and the middle east as to where WWIII is going to kick off.

Israeli forces raid Al-Aqsa Mosque, over 150 Palestinians injured
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
JFC...  looks like it's race between eastern Europe and the middle east as to where WWIII is going to kick off.

Israeli police have raided the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem, with medics reporting at least 158 Palestinians injured in the ensuing violence as hundreds were detained.

The Islamic endowment that runs the site said Israeli police entered in force before dawn on Friday, as thousands of worshippers were gathered at the mosque for early morning prayers.

Videos circulating online showed Palestinians throwing rocks and police firing tear gas and stun grenades. Others showed worshippers barricading themselves inside the mosque amid what appeared to be clouds of tear gas.

The Palestinian Red Crescent emergency service said it evacuated the majority of the wounded to hospitals. The endowment said one of the guards at the site was shot in the eye with a rubber bullet.

The Palestinian Red Crescent added that Israeli forces had hindered the arrival of ambulances and paramedics to the mosque, as Palestinian media said dozens of injured worshippers remained trapped inside the compound.

Israeli police said they arrested at least 300 Palestinians during the latest escalation. However, Palestinian sources put the number at 400.

Israeli police said they entered the compound, the third holiest site in Islam and revered by Jews as the Temple Mount, to break up a "violent" crowd that remained at the end of the morning prayers.

They said they went in "to disperse and push back" the crowd after a group of Palestinians began throwing rocks towards the nearby Jewish prayer space of the Western Wall.

But Palestinian cameraman, Rami al-Khatib, who witnessed the raid, said: "They [Israeli forces] brutally emptied the compound. They were attacking the mosque staff, normal people, elders, young people.

"There were many injured people, they fired rubber bullets inside Al-Aqsa Mosque compound. They were beating everyone, even the paramedics, they hit them," said al-Khatib, who too was injured.

Reporting from Damascus Gate, Al Jazeera's Najwan al-Samri said Israeli police stormed the mosque compound without pretext and assaulted worshippers near the Qibly prayer hall following the morning prayer.

She added that the escalation came as far-right Jewish groups called for raids of the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound during the Jewish Passover holiday, and the offering of animal sacrifices in its courtyards, which has not occurred since ancient times.

Al Jazeera's Natasha Ghoneim said Palestinians considered Israel's actions inside the compound as a provocation.

"Simply seeing Israeli police actually inside the Al-Aqsa Mosque with men laying face down on the carpet, hearing the bang-bang of stun grenades, seeing the cloud of tear gas, seeing distressed Palestinians being carted outside of the compound after being injureddeeply outraged and upset Palestinians," she said, speaking from outside Damascus Gate.

Al Jazeera's senior political analyst Marwan Bishara blamed the Israeli occupation, the "international community's indifference to Palestinian suffering" amid the Ukraine crisis, and the "paralysis of the Palestinian leadership" as reasons behind the latest developments in Jerusalem.
Israeli forces raid Al-Aqsa Mosque, over 150 Palestinians injured

Bold move.

Should make for an interesting Easter/Passover/Ramadan.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:14:54 PM EDT
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{Russian version} "In Nikolaev, cruise missiles destroyed a building that the Armed Forces of Ukraine used for their needs."

{Ukrainian version} "Vitaly Kim posted a photo of the results of the shelling by Russian idiots of the New Post office and a haystack

"Explain to me why shoot an expensive rocket at the civilian branch of the new post office? Do they think we're hiding the military there? We send shells through the new mail? Intimidation?" Kim wonders.
"They burned down the new post office and a haystack. At present, there are 3 civilian wounded," he added.
Vitaly, we have an answer. Russian idiots have no purpose. If only the way. Destruction and destruction of everything they can reach"



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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:


Exactly, what I was thinking. If the Bayraktar was up there, the Ukies saw the explosion, but for some reason they haven't released the footage?
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There is  NO tactical advantage in releasing drone footage. The Ukrainians said they sunk it, the Russians have moved all their ships 80 miles away and are swearing bloody revenge.
I like war porn as much as the next guy but I’d rather they Ukrainians maintain OPSEC and keep winning.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:18:31 PM EDT
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How much is shipping to Michigan?

Fed Ex or UPS?
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:21:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By weptek911:


There is  NO tactical advantage in releasing drone footage. The Ukrainians said they sunk it, the Russians have moved all their ships 80 miles away and are swearing bloody revenge.
I like war porn as much as the next guy but I'd rather they Ukrainians maintain OPSEC and keep winning.
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Originally Posted By weptek911:
Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:


Exactly, what I was thinking. If the Bayraktar was up there, the Ukies saw the explosion, but for some reason they haven't released the footage?


There is  NO tactical advantage in releasing drone footage. The Ukrainians said they sunk it, the Russians have moved all their ships 80 miles away and are swearing bloody revenge.
I like war porn as much as the next guy but I'd rather they Ukrainians maintain OPSEC and keep winning.

I'm sure it will get released when the time is right.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:21:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chaingun:
MTG is a big kick in the pants

I liked her attitude...until her opinion of UA
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Yeah, the disappointments keep coming.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:23:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MiG-21:

Too bad Ukraine doesn’t have anything with the range to hit Engels Air Base.

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Where's Dale Brown when you need him?
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:24:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
"They repulsed the attack and captured 16 BMPs: the Marines fought a successful battle with the occupiers in the Donbas.

As a result, sixteen BPMs and five BTR-82As were captured intact and slightly damaged. Currently, part of this technique is already killing Muscovites. Others, after minor repairs, will also replenish the park of armored vehicles "badgers".

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"sixteen BMPs and five BTR-82As were captured intact and slightly damaged", wow, if true.  One fight and the Ukrainians add the vehicles of two motorized rifle companies to their side.  Sounds like those Russian organizational and morale issues haven't improved.  

Will the loss of Moskva contribute to demoralizing the Russians or piss them off?  The mixed messages from Russian officials settling on an accident will presumably demoralize, they're missing the opportunity to make martyrs by sticking with the accident account.  Would a declaration of war by Putin change their attitude any?  Seems like it would be received as a bad joke to anyone exposed to the facts on the ground since the invasion.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:24:49 PM EDT
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"Destroyed Russian PPRU-1 "Ovod-M-SV" (9S80) - "mobile" control point air defense regiment."


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It looks like this when not blowed up.

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"An SBU officer plays with a kitty while detaining a collaborator"

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Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:25:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bizzarolibe:


It’s naive to laugh this off. An official declaration of war gives Putin more legal latitude to escalate this conflict, which includes deploying WMD’s.
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Originally Posted By Bizzarolibe:
Originally Posted By TNC:


Who are they declaring war on? Their electricians union? I thought they said Moskva had an electrical fire.


It’s naive to laugh this off. An official declaration of war gives Putin more legal latitude to escalate this conflict, which includes deploying WMD’s.


Putin doesn't need that declaration. He's a dictator and can do as he wishes. A formal declaration of war is meaningless since he sees Ukraine as Russian territory.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:27:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
I can say and do much of what see has. If I am capable of doing without being Thinking Putin is great then someone in her area can do it too.
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Originally Posted By bikedamon:


I believe you are right, and I believe she ran unopposed to begin with but maybe I'm wrong about that.  Problem is she has her hooks in all the "hurrrr, she makes liberals' heads explode!" crowd, and now anyone is isn't spicy is considered boring and policy is for faggots.  Her shit regarding Ukraine is so bonkers I do believe she's getting paid for it somehow, it's just too stupid otherwise.
I can say and do much of what see has. If I am capable of doing without being Thinking Putin is great then someone in her area can do it too.


No dude... I'm sorry, but it's Georgia.

And this is coming from someone in Alabama. I know, it's scary.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:28:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
"They repulsed the attack and captured 16 BMPs: the Marines fought a successful battle with the occupiers in the Donbas.

As a result, sixteen BPMs and five BTR-82As were captured intact and slightly damaged. Currently, part of this technique is already killing Muscovites. Others, after minor repairs, will also replenish the park of armored vehicles "badgers".

(The pictures don't really match up with the text)

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_11-41-48_jpg-2349907.JPG

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That last one is perfect the "like new" ad on Craigslist.  Slightly damaged my ass
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:28:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chaingun:
Add another high ranking officer to the kill list
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Add another high ranking officer to the kill list

Executed by the political officer?
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:34:05 PM EDT
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That last one is perfect the "like new" ad on Craigslist.  Slightly damaged my ass
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By Dracster:
"They repulsed the attack and captured 16 BMPs: the Marines fought a successful battle with the occupiers in the Donbas.

As a result, sixteen BPMs and five BTR-82As were captured intact and slightly damaged. Currently, part of this technique is already killing Muscovites. Others, after minor repairs, will also replenish the park of armored vehicles "badgers".

(The pictures don't really match up with the text)

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_11-41-48_jpg-2349907.JPG

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That last one is perfect the "like new" ad on Craigslist.  Slightly damaged my ass

Don't lowball me. I know what I got!
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:34:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
So I'm seeing on telegram and some twat feeds, that Russia may "declare war" since Ukraine is fighting back , and (probably) sunk the Moscva.

What precisely changes there? Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together can see this is a literal war and invasion. What does a deceleration do that a sepcial operation doesn't? Total mobilization? More forced conscription?

Sounds like the fast track to a prelude to full war in Europe to me. Which may have been what they wanted all along. They know they can't compete conventionally with NATO.
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I think it's quite clear that russia cannot fight the full Europe.  Its strategy has to be a slow war with a lot of deniers in western Europe.
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This showed up in the mail today, I've wanted this kit for a couple years now but only recently did I bother tracking one down (Stateside) and ordering it.

Kit is manufactured in Ukraine. Not sure if it will ever be available again.

TU-143's have been active in the conflict, along with the slightly older TU-141. Russians are claiming they are being fired at them to screw with/reveal air defense shit. One that landed in Croatia after crossing parts of Hungary & Romania supposedly had a warhead.






Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:35:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Translation: Combat of SU-35 fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces and 2 SU-27 fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force 03/17/22 reconstruction, interview with I. Perepelkin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTEZpTeYfI

Art. Lieutenant I. Perepelkin on the SU-35, having met a pair of SU-27s of the Ukrainian Air Force, attacked the leader with a 6G overload, then shot down the wingman with a 180 maneuver.
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That footage looks like DCS. The smoke has the distinct puffballs that are exactly the same and don’t vary in size or density.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:36:41 PM EDT
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Check the ERA Panels
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



I had a Q-Tard who is also a Charismatic Christian and medical doctor tell me that two days ago - he said Putin is doing us a favor by invading corrupt Ukraine and that Putin is on "our" side. He follows Pro-Putin talk show host Stew Peters and Pro-Putin Republican candidate/"researcher"/documentary film producer Lauren Witzke who have huge followings on Rumble and other internet sites. He said that all will know soon when God reveals the truth. (One could just imagine my response...)

Here are six search results for Lauren Witzke when her name is searched with "Putin":

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https://i.ibb.co/sKDygGn/Screenshot-20220414-142909-Samsung-Internet.jpg

These people are influencing millions with their crap along with Alex Jones (who just ran a story yesterday that AZOV Battalion are shooting Ukrainian citizens), Paul Joseph Watson, Paul Craig Roberts, BeforeItsNews.com, Hal Turner, WhatReallyHappened.com, The Burning Platform, SteveQuayle.com, etc., etc.. Most of the so-called Patriot Right is nothing but a mouth price for Kremlin propaganda these days. Gotta give 'em credit, only took like 15 years for communists to control a large hard core segment of the American conservative right wing.

@Ryan_Ruck (your 2 cents?)
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
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Fuck



But Putin is a strong Christian who is working on saving the souls of the barbarian Ukrainians

It had to be true. I watched a video on YouTube by a guy who wears a plate carrier



I had a Q-Tard who is also a Charismatic Christian and medical doctor tell me that two days ago - he said Putin is doing us a favor by invading corrupt Ukraine and that Putin is on "our" side. He follows Pro-Putin talk show host Stew Peters and Pro-Putin Republican candidate/"researcher"/documentary film producer Lauren Witzke who have huge followings on Rumble and other internet sites. He said that all will know soon when God reveals the truth. (One could just imagine my response...)

Here are six search results for Lauren Witzke when her name is searched with "Putin":

https://i.ibb.co/NK0hbzV/Screenshot-20220414-142935-Samsung-Internet.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/sKDygGn/Screenshot-20220414-142909-Samsung-Internet.jpg

These people are influencing millions with their crap along with Alex Jones (who just ran a story yesterday that AZOV Battalion are shooting Ukrainian citizens), Paul Joseph Watson, Paul Craig Roberts, BeforeItsNews.com, Hal Turner, WhatReallyHappened.com, The Burning Platform, SteveQuayle.com, etc., etc.. Most of the so-called Patriot Right is nothing but a mouth price for Kremlin propaganda these days. Gotta give 'em credit, only took like 15 years for communists to control a large hard core segment of the American conservative right wing.

@Ryan_Ruck (your 2 cents?)

No notification again...

I suppose we should thank our lucky stars the actual Russian military is nowhere near as effective as their subversion efforts. Bad enough as it is.
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Originally Posted By mokerr:



Ah yes, what a shame we have a BiLl Of RiGhTs protecting free speech.
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Originally Posted By mokerr:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By sq40:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:


Fuck



But Putin is a strong Christian who is working on saving the souls of the barbarian Ukrainians

It had to be true. I watched a video on YouTube by a guy who wears a plate carrier



I had a Q-Tard who is also a Charismatic Christian and medical doctor tell me that two days ago - he said Putin is doing us a favor by invading corrupt Ukraine and is on "our" side. He follows Pro-Putin talk show host Stew Peters and Pro-Putin Republican candidate/"researcher"/documentary film producer Lauren Witzke who have huge followings on Rumble and other internet sites. He said that all will know soon when God reveals the truth. (One could just imagine my response...)

Here are six search results for Lauren Witzke when her name is searched with "Putin":

https://i.ibb.co/NK0hbzV/Screenshot-20220414-142935-Samsung-Internet.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/sKDygGn/Screenshot-20220414-142909-Samsung-Internet.jpg

These people are influencing millions with their crap along with Alex Jones (who just ran a story yesterday that AZOV Battalion are shooting Ukrainian citizens), Paul Joseph Watson, Paul Craig Roberts, BeforeItsNews.com, Hal Turner, WhatReallyHappened.com, The Burning Platform, SteveQuayle.com, etc., etc.. Most of the so-called Patriot Right is nothing but a mouth price for Kremlin propaganda these days. Gotta give 'em credit, only took like 15 years for communists to control a large hard core segment of the American conservative right wing.


We really need to police our own on that shit.


Yes you are correct as it is having an impact. That is why you have seen me post a lot of info on this. Also, it is a federal crime to work on behalf of a foreign power without approval from the Department of State. And we did have treason laws enforced at one time in this country, but the communist founded ACLU took care of that. Many conservatives (and leftists) think that treason is protected by the 1st Amendment (it is not) and say "i MaY nOT aGGrEE wITH WhaT yOU sAY Or dO bUt wiLL dIE feR YeR RIGht tO saY iT."



Ah yes, what a shame we have a BiLl Of RiGhTs protecting free speech.


I guess you feel the Rosenbergs transfering nuclear secrets to Russia were just exercising their free speech rights...
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Originally Posted By Obo2:

so no specific people or acts?
if you don't want alex jones to spread a message stop fucking talking about him.
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:


If an American is paid to influence the American government or people on behalf of a foreign power for the foreign power's benefit then that is a crime. If that country is an adversary of the USA then it is treason. Understand? I'm all for the leftist going to prison for this as well. It's one thing to be duped or have an opinion, its another to knowingly work against the USA.

Propaganda coming directly from the Kremlin is a BIG part of this war and it is for THIS thread.

so no specific people or acts?
if you don't want alex jones to spread a message stop fucking talking about him.


You make no sence. So we should not talk about leftists trying to ban guns because we are spreading their anti gun messages???
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:43:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By grambosc:

Here in upstate SC, it's been stunning how much my circle of trust has narrowed over the past 2 months.  I'm glad that so many in my church have been able to see through the Russian spin.  Our church's missions activities in neighboring Romania have probably helped with that a lot, though.  (They have pivoted to helping shelter orphans from Ukraine now as well, and our entire Easter Sunday offering is going towards that this year)

But outside of my church friends, I've lost a lot of conservative acquaintances to the propaganda. If something bad happens here, I can no longer trust them for any mutual assistance, and I've been doubting my judgement for ever thinking they were trustworthy.

Some of our challengers to state RINO politicians in the upcoming primary have even been parroting the Russian propaganda, which has at least identified who doesn't need my vote or campaign contributions.  One lady I had already given money to and I now bitterly regret it.

I'm very disgusted with so many people who I thought would have had the discernment to know better.
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You aren't the only one facing this. Russian propaganda is pervasive. I let a long time friend go because he came to believe Alex Jones was right on everything. I'm still friendly when we run into each other but that's it. Can't trust him.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:43:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bizzarolibe:


It’s naive to laugh this off. An official declaration of war gives Putin more legal latitude to escalate this conflict, which includes deploying WMD’s.
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Originally Posted By Bizzarolibe:
Originally Posted By TNC:


Who are they declaring war on? Their electricians union? I thought they said Moskva had an electrical fire.


It’s naive to laugh this off. An official declaration of war gives Putin more legal latitude to escalate this conflict, which includes deploying WMD’s.


Oh, FFS.  Putin is going to do what he wants to do until someone stops him.

Everything else is just posturing for PR purposes.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:43:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


Putin doesn't need that declaration. He's a dictator and can do as he wishes. A formal declaration of war is meaningless since he sees Ukraine as Russian territory.
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That declaration isn’t really for external audiences - it is for the Russian people.
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Originally Posted By GLHX2112:
This showed up in the mail today, I've wanted this kit for a couple years now but only recently did I bother tracking one down (Stateside) and ordering it.

Kit is manufactured in Ukraine. Not sure if it will ever be available again.

TU-143's have been active in the conflict, along with the slightly older TU-141. Russians are claiming they are being fired at them to screw with/reveal air defense shit. One that landed in Croatia after crossing parts of Hungary & Romania supposedly had a warhead.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/79948/20220415_100105-2349929.jpg


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Friggin' awesome!  

Along with the launch vehicle that totally looks like early 80s GI Joe.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:45:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fxntime:


How much is shipping to Michigan?

Fed Ex or UPS?
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Shipping use to run around $20,000 to get from a western port in Europe to the United States
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:45:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By grambosc:

Here in upstate SC, it's been stunning how much my circle of trust has narrowed over the past 2 months.  I'm glad that so many in my church have been able to see through the Russian spin.  Our church's missions activities in neighboring Romania have probably helped with that a lot, though.  (They have pivoted to helping shelter orphans from Ukraine now as well, and our entire Easter Sunday offering is going towards that this year)

But outside of my church friends, I've lost a lot of conservative acquaintances to the propaganda. If something bad happens here, I can no longer trust them for any mutual assistance, and I've been doubting my judgement for ever thinking they were trustworthy.

Some of our challengers to state RINO politicians in the upcoming primary have even been parroting the Russian propaganda, which has at least identified who doesn't need my vote or campaign contributions.  One lady I had already given money to and I now bitterly regret it.

I'm very disgusted with so many people who I thought would have had the discernment to know better.
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:


Fuck



But Putin is a strong Christian who is working on saving the souls of the barbarian Ukrainians

It had to be true. I watched a video on YouTube by a guy who wears a plate carrier



I had a Q-Tard who is also a Charismatic Christian and medical doctor tell me that two days ago - he said Putin is doing us a favor by invading corrupt Ukraine and that Putin is on "our" side. He follows Pro-Putin talk show host Stew Peters and Pro-Putin Republican candidate/"researcher"/documentary film producer Lauren Witzke who have huge followings on Rumble and other internet sites. He said that all will know soon when God reveals the truth. (One could just imagine my response...)

Here are six search results for Lauren Witzke when her name is searched with "Putin":

https://i.ibb.co/NK0hbzV/Screenshot-20220414-142935-Samsung-Internet.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/sKDygGn/Screenshot-20220414-142909-Samsung-Internet.jpg

These people are influencing millions with their crap along with Alex Jones (who just ran a story yesterday that AZOV Battalion are shooting Ukrainian citizens), Paul Joseph Watson, Paul Craig Roberts, BeforeItsNews.com, Hal Turner, WhatReallyHappened.com, The Burning Platform, SteveQuayle.com, etc., etc.. Most of the so-called Patriot Right is nothing but a mouth price for Kremlin propaganda these days. Gotta give 'em credit, only took like 15 years for communists to control a large hard core segment of the American conservative right wing.

@Ryan_Ruck (your 2 cents?)

Here in upstate SC, it's been stunning how much my circle of trust has narrowed over the past 2 months.  I'm glad that so many in my church have been able to see through the Russian spin.  Our church's missions activities in neighboring Romania have probably helped with that a lot, though.  (They have pivoted to helping shelter orphans from Ukraine now as well, and our entire Easter Sunday offering is going towards that this year)

But outside of my church friends, I've lost a lot of conservative acquaintances to the propaganda. If something bad happens here, I can no longer trust them for any mutual assistance, and I've been doubting my judgement for ever thinking they were trustworthy.

Some of our challengers to state RINO politicians in the upcoming primary have even been parroting the Russian propaganda, which has at least identified who doesn't need my vote or campaign contributions.  One lady I had already given money to and I now bitterly regret it.

I'm very disgusted with so many people who I thought would have had the discernment to know better.


I feel your pain! Hang in there.  It's better you know now than to find out after SHTF.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:47:56 PM EDT
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British AS90s are in country!

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Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:50:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7empest:





I hope they weren't showing the footage as if it was actually recorded, because that footage is a video game.
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I hope they weren't showing the footage as if it was actually recorded, because that footage is a video game.


lmao!
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:50:59 PM EDT
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Kalibr cruise missile

Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:51:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:


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Yeah, he might threaten to sling nukes, but most likely, he will end up without an army, and neighboring nations will eat russia piece by piece.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:51:25 PM EDT
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https://community.battlefront.com/topic/140931-how-hot-is-ukraine-gonna-get/?do=findComment&comment=1921527

"Ok, so apologize for what will be a longish post, even for me.  So welcome to The Capt's terrain analysis for the possible upcoming fight between Izyum and Donetsk.  Basically I wanted to get a view of the terrain this next major fight is sqauring off over and try and pull some deductions from that.

..."
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:51:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fxntime:


How much is shipping to Michigan?

Fed Ex or UPS?
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Originally Posted By fxntime:


How much is shipping to Michigan?

Fed Ex or UPS?


Group buy ?
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:53:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Obo2:

so no specific people or acts?
if you don't want alex jones to spread a message stop fucking talking about him.
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Is Alex jones pro-kremlin in this conflict?
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:53:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
JFC...  looks like it's race between eastern Europe and the middle east as to where WWIII is going to kick off.

Israeli forces raid Al-Aqsa Mosque, over 150 Palestinians injured
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Fuck the Palestinians!
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:54:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


Putin doesn't need that declaration. He's a dictator and can do as he wishes. A formal declaration of war is meaningless since he sees Ukraine as Russian territory.
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Originally Posted By Bizzarolibe:
Originally Posted By TNC:


Who are they declaring war on? Their electricians union? I thought they said Moskva had an electrical fire.


It’s naive to laugh this off. An official declaration of war gives Putin more legal latitude to escalate this conflict, which includes deploying WMD’s.


Putin doesn't need that declaration. He's a dictator and can do as he wishes. A formal declaration of war is meaningless since he sees Ukraine as Russian territory.


Russia has leveled entire cities. It's strange to hear people talk about Putin escalating.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:54:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:


You aren't the only one facing this. Russian propaganda is pervasive. I let a long time friend go because he came to believe Alex Jones was right on everything. I'm still friendly when we run into each other but that's it. Can't trust him.
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Less Q-tard stupidity here than on 24hour campfire.

They drank the commie Kool aid on bulk
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:54:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By veritas8985:


How do you say "Freedom Boner" in Ukrainian?

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Хер Свободи 😂
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:56:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 74HC:

Executed by the political officer?
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Add another high ranking officer to the kill list

Executed by the political officer?

Slipped in spilled tea and broke his neck.
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:56:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wulfmann:



WTF

I trust Jesus Christ as my personal savior so someone needs to fill me in on this stupid from some obviously demented people.

Anyone who can not see Vladimir Putin is a demonic sociopath madman allied with Satan is mentally deranged
No matter republican or democrat any such stupid should result in the immediate expulsion from either political party!!

The only thing this piece of shit is doing for Russians is sending their children to their deaths without just cause!

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What's with the bold? Are you yelling in type?

Look at the sources. Derp.

Some people are more concerned about what's going on in our own country.

Ukraine outrage is the new covid fear porn.

Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:57:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter:
JFC...  looks like it's race between eastern Europe and the middle east as to where WWIII is going to kick off.

Israeli forces raid Al-Aqsa Mosque, over 150 Palestinians injured
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JFC...  looks like it's race between eastern Europe and the middle east as to where WWIII is going to kick off.

Israeli police have raided the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem, with medics reporting at least 158 Palestinians injured in the ensuing violence as hundreds were detained.

The Islamic endowment that runs the site said Israeli police entered in force before dawn on Friday, as thousands of worshippers were gathered at the mosque for early morning prayers.

Videos circulating online showed Palestinians throwing rocks and police firing tear gas and stun grenades. Others showed worshippers barricading themselves inside the mosque amid what appeared to be clouds of tear gas.

The Palestinian Red Crescent emergency service said it evacuated the majority of the wounded to hospitals. The endowment said one of the guards at the site was shot in the eye with a rubber bullet.

The Palestinian Red Crescent added that Israeli forces had hindered the arrival of ambulances and paramedics to the mosque, as Palestinian media said dozens of injured worshippers remained trapped inside the compound.

Israeli police said they arrested at least 300 Palestinians during the latest escalation. However, Palestinian sources put the number at 400.

Israeli police said they entered the compound, the third holiest site in Islam and revered by Jews as the Temple Mount, to break up a "violent" crowd that remained at the end of the morning prayers.

They said they went in "to disperse and push back" the crowd after a group of Palestinians began throwing rocks towards the nearby Jewish prayer space of the Western Wall.

But Palestinian cameraman, Rami al-Khatib, who witnessed the raid, said: "They [Israeli forces] brutally emptied the compound. They were attacking the mosque staff, normal people, elders, young people.

"There were many injured people, they fired rubber bullets inside Al-Aqsa Mosque compound. They were beating everyone, even the paramedics, they hit them," said al-Khatib, who too was injured.

Reporting from Damascus Gate, Al Jazeera's Najwan al-Samri said Israeli police stormed the mosque compound without pretext and assaulted worshippers near the Qibly prayer hall following the morning prayer.

She added that the escalation came as far-right Jewish groups called for raids of the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound during the Jewish Passover holiday, and the offering of animal sacrifices in its courtyards, which has not occurred since ancient times.

Al Jazeera's Natasha Ghoneim said Palestinians considered Israel's actions inside the compound as a provocation.

"Simply seeing Israeli police actually inside the Al-Aqsa Mosque with men laying face down on the carpet, hearing the bang-bang of stun grenades, seeing the cloud of tear gas, seeing distressed Palestinians being carted outside of the compound after being injureddeeply outraged and upset Palestinians," she said, speaking from outside Damascus Gate.

Al Jazeera's senior political analyst Marwan Bishara blamed the Israeli occupation, the "international community's indifference to Palestinian suffering" amid the Ukraine crisis, and the "paralysis of the Palestinian leadership" as reasons behind the latest developments in Jerusalem.
Israeli forces raid Al-Aqsa Mosque, over 150 Palestinians injured


Wait, I thought America was finally a leader again? The adults were back in charge!
Link Posted: 4/15/2022 12:58:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GTLandser:


Random comments:
1) I can't believe how shitty the video from their FLIR turret looks. Like something from 1991.

2) I can't believe how much oscillation seems to occur in their wing pylons. I have seen them shake almost as much in flight too. Can anyone(@AeroE) confirm/explain if that's on purpose? I know F-16 wings do better with some load on them, but Jesus, those pylons on the Ka-52 are just flopping around.
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Originally Posted By GTLandser:
Originally Posted By realwar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aTtXfFAVU8


Random comments:
1) I can't believe how shitty the video from their FLIR turret looks. Like something from 1991.

2) I can't believe how much oscillation seems to occur in their wing pylons. I have seen them shake almost as much in flight too. Can anyone(@AeroE) confirm/explain if that's on purpose? I know F-16 wings do better with some load on them, but Jesus, those pylons on the Ka-52 are just flopping around.

I have an AN/PAS-19, circa 1997, that has far better image quality, even at maximum 4x electronic zoom.

AN/PAS-19 (Magnavox HHTI) Thermal Scope
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