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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:43:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: @CTAC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220227-155643_Instagram_jpg-2295373.JPG Use this to listen, pick a SDR near Eastern Europe http://rx.linkfanel.net/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By CTAC: @mancow- How often are you picking up traffic on comms? Been on for an hour and haven't found hardly anything. I do see what appears to be a lot of jamming on the waterfall. @CTAC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220227-155643_Instagram_jpg-2295373.JPG Use this to listen, pick a SDR near Eastern Europe http://rx.linkfanel.net/ The word in the monitoring grups is that is fake to throw people off. Dunno just saying. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: I just watched a flight from Denmark and a flight from Germany land just inside western Ukraine They flew with their transponders on the whole way... totally out of fucks to give. I wouldn't be so quick to say "Nobody will help." because I just saw it happen/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By BlueSetter: I hope Ukraine Decimates the Russian forces. That said, do we now completely discount US intel? From the start they’ve said this will be an overwhelming win for Russia. If we do discount our own intel services, how screwed are we? I mean, if we got this so wrong, and Afghanistan so wrong, are we the incompetent ones? Russia is almost certainly still going to "win" - in the sense that the math/numbers haven't changed, and nobody in the West is willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine for losing. They will eventually destroy the Ukraine military, and they will eventually take the cities. But, the WAY they are winning is obviously not what they had planned, and this whole thing is blowing up in Putin's face. I just watched a flight from Denmark and a flight from Germany land just inside western Ukraine They flew with their transponders on the whole way... totally out of fucks to give. I wouldn't be so quick to say "Nobody will help." because I just saw it happen/ Don't get me wrong. LOTS of people want to help, but no Western government is willing to get directly involved, and send their OWN military units to fight/kill Russian units. And unfortunately without direct intervention, I don't think all of the help (weapons, materiel, supplies, volunteers, etc.) will be ENOUGH. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Putin calls the West an 'Empire of Lies' following imposed sanctions  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24C3dQ0ntwU |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:44:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aswrg7:
You want Mossad hunting you to the ends of the earth? Because thats how you get Mossad to hunt you to the ends of the earth. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSM: Stacking shielding in the basement anyway. It was easier when I was younger.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSM: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: What it is is not public, and some .com website you found means nothing. Stacking shielding in the basement anyway. It was easier when I was younger.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:44:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:44:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aswrg7:
Israel is a non-NATO member with F-35s correct? Just sayin |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:44:53 PM EDT
[#8]
One thing I am noticing on the propaganda from both sides. The Russian propaganda is saying they're doing well in the kinetic engagement. They're not saying that the Ukraine people are acting defeated. They're not saying a lot about the Russian soldiers high moral.
The Ukraine Propaganda has been saying they're staying strong. That they are not defeated, and that the Russian troops moral is low. Besides the Ukraine propaganda being more effective in driving moral internal and external, it is the loser that picks when the war ends. Not seeing anything about the Ukraine spirit breaking. They're determined to not be the loser. This bodes terribly badly for Russia. More expectation of a Junta to assassinate Putin and putting and end to this. Russia surrenders to Ukraine, Ukraine annexes Russia and joins NATO. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:45:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SolidState]
[#9]
Lol drive-by molotov attack, been at work not sure if posted
Also seems Kyiv is getting bombed right now, not sure if it's being picked up in the livestreams |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:45:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Nice drive by! A little splash back, but mostly peaceful.
Note to self. Going bald can be an advantage |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: I'm seeing more avenues to Russia losing / being forced to withdrawal. Supply line collapse: Sure, the big convoy is coming through without getting attacked, but they need resupply everywhere. a couple giant slow convoys cannot satisfy their logistical needs. Troop morale collapse: they're conservatively at 2% KIA in five days, and might have literally walked into this expecting a training mission. At what point do the Russian troops break? Unrest at home forcing Russia's hand: stock market started crashing and was frozen, runs on banks, exchange rate plummeting, loss of trade threatening to implode their economy and ruin their already meager quality of life. How long until the protests get bigger and more aggressive? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By BlueSetter: I hope Ukraine Decimates the Russian forces. That said, do we now completely discount US intel? From the start they’ve said this will be an overwhelming win for Russia. If we do discount our own intel services, how screwed are we? I mean, if we got this so wrong, and Afghanistan so wrong, are we the incompetent ones? Russia is almost certainly still going to "win" - in the sense that the math/numbers haven't changed, and nobody in the West is willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine for losing. They will eventually destroy the Ukraine military, and they will eventually take the cities. But, the WAY they are winning is obviously not what they had planned, and this whole thing is blowing up in Putin's face. I'm seeing more avenues to Russia losing / being forced to withdrawal. Supply line collapse: Sure, the big convoy is coming through without getting attacked, but they need resupply everywhere. a couple giant slow convoys cannot satisfy their logistical needs. Troop morale collapse: they're conservatively at 2% KIA in five days, and might have literally walked into this expecting a training mission. At what point do the Russian troops break? Unrest at home forcing Russia's hand: stock market started crashing and was frozen, runs on banks, exchange rate plummeting, loss of trade threatening to implode their economy and ruin their already meager quality of life. How long until the protests get bigger and more aggressive? Unless there is a coup in the Kremlin or something, I'm not sure how Russia can lose this one. But, ask Pyrrhus about winning but losing. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Could you imagine a bunch of Ukrainian refugees being sent to government housing in any major US city?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Drsalee: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Family in Hungary, near the Ukrainian border, are getting nervous. Seeing lots of refugees and lots of military aircraft flying around. I think this mess is FAR from over... Even if Putin takes Ukraine he has already said he plans to take more. I don’t think those refugees will be allowed in the USA……….too white. Could you imagine a bunch of Ukrainian refugees being sent to government housing in any major US city?? Kinda makes me want the conflict to continue. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:45:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Nice drive by! A little splash back, but mostly peaceful.
Hopefully people are paying attention to this kind of stuff and learning very quickly. Ukranians already have the guts. Add some tactics and this kind of thing could be really useful. For one thing, corked bottles of fuel are fairly safe, it only takes 1 actually burning. A second car could have showered that armored vehicle with bottles. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:45:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: I'm not sure she meant the "New World Order" quite like we think of it... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By et_slowpoke:
I'm not sure she meant the "New World Order" quite like we think of it... Don’t crush the Q-Tards dreams man. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Russia said it has total air supremacy, I doubt they are faking it due to the helicopter and SU-35 videos posted in the past few hours. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By Action45: Yeah, their Air Force must be decimated. It’s the only explanation Russia said it has total air supremacy, I doubt they are faking it due to the helicopter and SU-35 videos posted in the past few hours. That seems improbable. With the AWACS and E-8 JOINT Stars feeding intel, the UKRs can knock them out of the sky at will (one would think). |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:46:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Even if Putin takes Ukraine he has already said he plans to take more. After seeing how much they've struggled in Ukraine I don't think Russia would stand a chance against a modern military....take his threat of nukes off the table and I think NATO would wipe them out in a week. <--- Not a military strategist 
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:46:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RSM]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: If true, I fear they are fucked. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By Action45: Yeah, their Air Force must be decimated. It’s the only explanation Russia said it has total air supremacy, I doubt they are faking it due to the helicopter and SU-35 videos posted in the past few hours. If true, I fear they are fucked. State dept says not true. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:46:30 PM EDT
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Think the Ukrainians can get a perst4 for me lol
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:47:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Hopefully people are paying attention to this kind of stuff and learning very quickly. Ukranians already have the guts. Add some tactics and this kind of thing could be really useful. For one thing, corked bottles of fuel are fairly safe, it only takes 1 actually burning. A second car could have showered that armored vehicle with bottles. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:47:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aswrg7:
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:47:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: I'm seeing more avenues to Russia losing / being forced to withdrawal. Supply line collapse: Sure, the big convoy is coming through without getting attacked, but they need resupply everywhere. a couple giant slow convoys cannot satisfy their logistical needs. Troop morale collapse: they're conservatively at 2% KIA in five days, and might have literally walked into this expecting a training mission. At what point do the Russian troops break? Unrest at home forcing Russia's hand: stock market started crashing and was frozen, runs on banks, exchange rate plummeting, loss of trade threatening to implode their economy and ruin their already meager quality of life. How long until the protests get bigger and more aggressive? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By BlueSetter: I hope Ukraine Decimates the Russian forces. That said, do we now completely discount US intel? From the start they’ve said this will be an overwhelming win for Russia. If we do discount our own intel services, how screwed are we? I mean, if we got this so wrong, and Afghanistan so wrong, are we the incompetent ones? Russia is almost certainly still going to "win" - in the sense that the math/numbers haven't changed, and nobody in the West is willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine for losing. They will eventually destroy the Ukraine military, and they will eventually take the cities. But, the WAY they are winning is obviously not what they had planned, and this whole thing is blowing up in Putin's face. I'm seeing more avenues to Russia losing / being forced to withdrawal. Supply line collapse: Sure, the big convoy is coming through without getting attacked, but they need resupply everywhere. a couple giant slow convoys cannot satisfy their logistical needs. Troop morale collapse: they're conservatively at 2% KIA in five days, and might have literally walked into this expecting a training mission. At what point do the Russian troops break? Unrest at home forcing Russia's hand: stock market started crashing and was frozen, runs on banks, exchange rate plummeting, loss of trade threatening to implode their economy and ruin their already meager quality of life. How long until the protests get bigger and more aggressive? I definitely HOPE I am wrong. But seeing a Russian convoy sitting unmolested for days, and just getting bigger, is a very bad sign. Seeing Ukrainian formations potentially getting encircled is a very bad sign. Seeing Russia beginning to use cluster munitions in urban areas is a very bad sign. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:47:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drsalee: Kinda makes me want the conflict to continue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drsalee: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Drsalee: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Family in Hungary, near the Ukrainian border, are getting nervous. Seeing lots of refugees and lots of military aircraft flying around. I think this mess is FAR from over... Even if Putin takes Ukraine he has already said he plans to take more. I don’t think those refugees will be allowed in the USA……….too white. Could you imagine a bunch of Ukrainian refugees being sent to government housing in any major US city?? Kinda makes me want the conflict to continue. They have better odds against Putin. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:48:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbutspry: Russia has widespread use of satellite reception for TV. That reception includes CNN International. The idea that Russians are cut off from outside news sources is not true. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbutspry: Originally Posted By BlueSetter: Originally Posted By outofbattery: This is stupidity. Give me a fact about Putin,Russia and this war and we will debate it. The caveat is that “globalists,Soros,globohomo” can not enter the conversation. A lie made to manipulate and purposely lead astray is not an opinion,it is propaganda, What sickens me as a post-Soviet who grew with a rebirthed,growing nation that is now one of the most free in the world is that so many “conservative patriots” prefer tyrannical despots to liberty and the only reason why is because “huh huh the EU is woke fags,Putin is so based” and it is absolutely moronic. Fact, Putin practices extreme censorship of all media outlets. Fact, censorship has no place in free society. Russia has widespread use of satellite reception for TV. That reception includes CNN International. The idea that Russians are cut off from outside news sources is not true. A lot of people don't get CNN though, and most that get their news from TV watch state sponsored stuff. I highly doubt that currently CNN is able to be viewed, but probably possible with workarounds. It's not on "standard" channels for sure. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:48:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Colt653]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Where is the Ukrainian airforce? Attack drones? That column should be slaughtered by now nothin a WWII P-47 can't handle  
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: You want Mossad hunting you to the ends of the earth? Because thats how you get Mossad to hunt you to the ends of the earth. Yeah, that has the potential for things to get a whole lot uglier. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:48:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drsalee: I don’t think those refugees will be allowed in the USA……….too white. Not racists, just realistic. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:49:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: *Yawn* Ditch the panties, dudette. You're worried about chips while your liberal buddies have outsourced that shit for years. Grow a fucking pair already. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By J-Dam: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By 07Commander: Jesus. When is the US just gonna say fuck it, grow a set of balls, and get in there. The Air Force can handle it by themselves. When are you heading over? You're late. *Yawn* No US troops, though.. Putin is already blaming us, and put the Nuke crew on alert. You think us staying out of it is gonna matter? My hope is that Potato has ours on alert as well. Putin has been using that for 30 years. It's his default line. It's bait. And, yes, staying out of it does matter. I have zero desire to send US soldiers over there to fight and die. I'm all for them killing as many Russians as they can, but I'm not for us sending our men and women over there. Besides, we have China to worry about. Strategically, Taiwan is exponentially more valuable. If we lose it, then China gets control of the chip market for the next decade. But, I hear that they're taking volunteers in Ukraine.  *Yawn* Ditch the panties, dudette. You're worried about chips while your liberal buddies have outsourced that shit for years. Grow a fucking pair already. Yeah. That's what I thought. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:49:26 PM EDT
[#28]
All the drone strikes I see are hitting buks first.
Are they doing that for the secondary carnage, or because the Ukrainians have air assets like frogfoots to hit these convoys? That convoy had got to get decimated |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Nice drive by! A little splash back, but mostly peaceful.
Literal ride or die partner right there. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:49:37 PM EDT
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Air raid siren
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:50:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Hopefully people are paying attention to this kind of stuff and learning very quickly. Ukranians already have the guts. Add some tactics and this kind of thing could be really useful. For one thing, corked bottles of fuel are fairly safe, it only takes 1 actually burning. A second car could have showered that armored vehicle with bottles. Never thought about that, one danger bottle followed by a volley of sealed would be pretty devastating i would think. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:50:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nutro: @Tboy You good? And WildBill. I can't remember his name. @Easterner also. Stay safe. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:50:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: That's actually not a bad idea. Covid entirely aside a hefty but non-lethal dose of radiation doesn't do the immune system any favors. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By Billybob2002: Originally Posted By realwar: Biden administration is mocked for updating its nuclear attack guidelines to include SOCIAL DISTANCING and mask wearing https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/28/17/54755825-10560335-READ_The_full_government_guidance_on_what_to_do_in_the_event_of_-a-143_1646070352086.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/28/17/54755837-10560335-image-a-146_1646070352103.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/28/17/54755831-10560335-image-a-147_1646070352118.jpg More Dumb to mock. Survive a nuclear attack to only die from covid pneumonia. Oof! That's actually not a bad idea. Covid entirely aside a hefty but non-lethal dose of radiation doesn't do the immune system any favors. The problem with shelters is they're going to be really small compared to the number of people wanting in. 6ft separation means tons of people can't come in. If you're in a shelter for a week or 3 personal hygiene will be non-existent and you'll be living in each others filth. How many do you think will have working toilets? You're looking at the very minimal risk of covid vs certain death if you stay outside. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:50:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: You really believe that Putin had no idea Ukraine had re-armed themselves?? You can't truly believe that. I'm sure someone in thw Kremlin tried to tell him that. I'm also sure he refused to listen. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:50:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: Bigger take away. If your pay check is worth $0 and you're getting paid to fight. What are you fighting for? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ih784: Not racists, just realistic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ih784: Originally Posted By Drsalee: I don’t think those refugees will be allowed in the USA……….too white. Not racists, just realistic. Would you rather stay and fight for your home, or have your family moved to the projects in East Baltimore? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:51:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rhinodo99: Air raid siren Feed? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: That's actually not a bad idea. Covid entirely aside a hefty but non-lethal dose of radiation doesn't do the immune system any favors. Well thats BS, we all know Radiations is not real, neither are birds or the moon landing!
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:51:42 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Nice drive by! A little splash back, but mostly peaceful.
Blonde chick getting ballsy! Good for her! |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:51:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: That cat is out the bag. UKR comes out on top and the people will keep their arms. UKR comes out under a Russian thumb and the people will use them as long as they need too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Since citizens/Territorial Defense units will be a large part of what happens in the next 24 hours, I am posting this answer I gave on another thread since many gun news sites are making errors in their reporting: True. Zelensky did not want to make it easier to buy guns last year when the Ukrainian Gun Owners Association put legislation to the Rada (Parliament). Even though he decided to pass out AKs, understand that all of those citizens became a member of the Territorial Defense and the serial numbers are registered to them, while they are a civilian militia, they are also considered to be Ukrainian Armed Forces. But no provision has been made to relax gun laws and that's what most the gun news sites are getting wrong. Ukrainians have been able to own MSRs and hi-cap mags for decades so nothing has changed. This article is really good with info: President Zelenskyy: Open Up Ukrainian Gun Ownership!Ukraine Has Had Eight Years to Prepare the Population Against a Nation Which Has Persecuted it for Hundreds of Years, Yet Zelenskyy Refuses to Cut the Red Tape on Firearms Ownership That cat is out the bag. UKR comes out on top and the people will keep their arms. UKR comes out under a Russian thumb and the people will use them as long as they need too. Yep. Even if Zelenskii doesn’t want to liberalize gun ownership after this, there will so many guns distributed/left lying around on the battlefield by dead/wounded/surrendered troops that any gun control laws will become somewhat irrelevant. People might need to hide what they have, but lots of people are going to get/stay strapped just in case. I personally know a guy in Norway whose family still has an MP40 lying in a closet that was looted when the German occupation troops left. Just in case the war wasn’t as over as everybody thought it was. Illegal guns leftover from the war are very much still a thing 80 years after the fact. I refer to it as the dirty little secret of European gun control. Also important to remember is that the EU will likely make Ukraine have some baseline of gun control to be a part of the EU, Schengen Zone, or European Economic Area. They have made Switzerland change their laws several times on the latter two bases. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak:
Wagner are most likely the ones dressing as civilians and as UKR soldiers. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:52:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/book_large/public/9781921825545_FC.jpg?itok=MfPmSj9x 20 years in and we're right on track. Russia collapses trying to rebuild Soviet Union. Japan rearms. Next Up into the 2050's - Poland and Turkey become superpowers as Russia, German and France decline. Germany tries to rearm. War with Poland. China collapses and breaks up. US has Civil War / War with Mexico. He wrote a book in the 80s called 'the Coming War with Japan.' He was wrong then too. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fox2008: After seeing how much they've struggled in Ukraine I don't think Russia would stand a chance against a modern military....take his threat of nukes off the table and I think NATO would wipe them out in a week. <--- Not a military strategist Not just NATO, I think Poland could defeat them. I think the big IF is the Ukraine logistics getting the missiles and gear to where it is needed. If they can do that I don't see how Russia can win. I also would bet that Ukraine has better situational awareness that the Russians do. If they can push that down to the tactical or theatre level that would be such a force multiplier that if they get resupply it is almost a forgone Russia defeat. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:52:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: @CTAC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220227-155643_Instagram_jpg-2295373.JPG Use this to listen, pick a SDR near Eastern Europe http://rx.linkfanel.net/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By CTAC: @mancow- How often are you picking up traffic on comms? Been on for an hour and haven't found hardly anything. I do see what appears to be a lot of jamming on the waterfall. @CTAC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220227-155643_Instagram_jpg-2295373.JPG Use this to listen, pick a SDR near Eastern Europe http://rx.linkfanel.net/ Thanks. A link I just found interesting regarding Russian radio......... Monitoring Airwaves During Ukrainian Conflict |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:53:05 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Unless there is a coup in the Kremlin or something, I'm not sure how Russia can lose this one. But, ask Pyrrhus about winning but losing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Originally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By BlueSetter: I hope Ukraine Decimates the Russian forces. That said, do we now completely discount US intel? From the start they’ve said this will be an overwhelming win for Russia. If we do discount our own intel services, how screwed are we? I mean, if we got this so wrong, and Afghanistan so wrong, are we the incompetent ones? Russia is almost certainly still going to "win" - in the sense that the math/numbers haven't changed, and nobody in the West is willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine for losing. They will eventually destroy the Ukraine military, and they will eventually take the cities. But, the WAY they are winning is obviously not what they had planned, and this whole thing is blowing up in Putin's face. I'm seeing more avenues to Russia losing / being forced to withdrawal. Supply line collapse: Sure, the big convoy is coming through without getting attacked, but they need resupply everywhere. a couple giant slow convoys cannot satisfy their logistical needs. Troop morale collapse: they're conservatively at 2% KIA in five days, and might have literally walked into this expecting a training mission. At what point do the Russian troops break? Unrest at home forcing Russia's hand: stock market started crashing and was frozen, runs on banks, exchange rate plummeting, loss of trade threatening to implode their economy and ruin their already meager quality of life. How long until the protests get bigger and more aggressive? Unless there is a coup in the Kremlin or something, I'm not sure how Russia can lose this one. But, ask Pyrrhus about winning but losing. This is my guess to how it unfolds. Praying for that coup though. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:53:07 PM EDT
[#46]
I'm wondering why that column remains unmolested, given that we know that Ukraine has drones. If they still have operational plans with guns, they could have a field day. So much weirdness about this whole thing so far.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:53:34 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris: I'm sure someone in thw Kremlin tried to tell him that. I'm also sure he refused to listen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: You really believe that Putin had no idea Ukraine had re-armed themselves?? You can't truly believe that. I'm sure someone in thw Kremlin tried to tell him that. I'm also sure he refused to listen. People choose to forget that Russia is a major cyber threat to even the most advanced tech companies in this world. Their physical army might be shit, but Intelligence isn't something that they lack. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:53:40 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SolidState: Lol drive-by molotov attack, been at work not sure if posted
Also seems Kyiv is getting bombed right now, not sure if it's being picked up in the livestreams So she definitely caught on fire a little at the end there  Also top post pointed out it appeared to be getting towed ny a tractor unless it was just suspiciously stuck in traffic. Possible blue on recently-turned-green there just for more comedic value?
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:53:48 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Russia is almost certainly still going to "win" - in the sense that the math/numbers haven't changed, and nobody in the West is willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine for losing. They will eventually destroy the Ukraine military, and they will eventually take the cities. But, the WAY they are winning is obviously not what they had planned, and this whole thing is blowing up in Putin's face. Define "win". Putin is going to have to deal with an insurgency in Ukraine for years to come. Any puppet regime he puts in power will be weak and unstable. Meanwhile, NATO powers will be sneaking NLAWS, Javelins, MANPADS, rifles, and ammo to Ukrainian partisans for years to come. Putin has won himself a quagmire. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:53:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SolidState]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Feed?  Failed To Load Title Not hearing them now though. Been off and on, reportedly they got hit a couple of times earlier, according twitters. |
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