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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. View Quote Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Originally Posted By MouseBoy: The India abstention was shocking. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By daemon734: Originally Posted By et_slowpoke: That is the risk. I would be surprised if India trusts China on currency though. India is already phoning up China about it, and abstained in the UNSC's vote on the Russian invasion. The India abstention was shocking. It's not that shocking. Between 2016 and 2020 India accounted for almost a quarter of all military arms exports from Russia. India has billions of dollars invested into Russian weapons. They don't wanna lose that. |
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By cwm1150: Henry needs to ship them some Big Boy lever actions View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cwm1150: Originally Posted By BigB32: https://i.postimg.cc/W302Sg8V/135-EA631-15-A9-4-AE0-A5-F8-283528582-A7-C.png Henry needs to ship them some Big Boy lever actions 7.62x39 is ballistically similar to 3030. |
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Bad things happen in isolated instances in an armed populace, horrific things happen to a disarmed populace. 20th Century Democide https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
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Originally Posted By hondaciv: I'm still shocked that a country where 3/4 it's population drinks from the same puddle they shit in gets to vote on anything meaningful. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Winter War 2.0 The Ukrainians are outnumbered and outgunned just like the Finns were 83 years ago. I hope that (like the Finns), the Ukrainians make the Russians pay dearly for every inch of ground they advance. View Quote The weather has helped Ukraine greatly - off road movement appears to be very limited because of ground conditions. Russian units drive up a road, where they can be hit by anti-armor teams. The main difference between this and the British XXX Corps at Market-Garden, is that the Russians have more than one road to use, but still limits the force that can be brought to bear like the English did to the French at Agincourt, US to the Brits at Plattsburg in 1814, or the Brits to the Zulus at Roark's Drift, and so on. |
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"No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to congress a power to disarm the people." William Rawle
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com: What rifles are those VHS? View Quote https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/07/27/potd-ukrainian-special-operations-forces-with-the-fort-221/ |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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It seems like this would be an ideal time for Putin to announce that he has kicked the shit out of Ukraine for making noise about joining nato, and that now he is going to take his victorious heros back to Russia for some well earned parades and feasts.
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SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS
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Originally Posted By Cypher15: Does not seem like the Russians to go quiet along almost the entire front. Stopping to regroup gives up momentum even if it was slowing. Also alows enemy forces to regroup and dig in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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Originally Posted By hondaciv: I'm still shocked that a country where 3/4 it's population drinks from the same puddle they shit in gets to vote on anything meaningful. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: The India abstention was shocking. I'm still shocked that a country where 3/4 it's population drinks from the same puddle they shit in gets to vote on anything meaningful. Well you do have a way with words but can't say you are wrong. |
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God Bless Edward Snowden.
God Bless Ammon Bundy. quod est necessarium est licitum Interim call sign: Tiffany |
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: We didn't go to war with Russia when they flattened Aleppo or Grozny. We can't go to war with them if they do that somewhere in Ukraine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Cypher15: Not yet we cant but Russia intentionally using those TOS-1s on urban centers is not a 'do it yourself' conundrum. We didn't go to war with Russia when they flattened Aleppo or Grozny. We can't go to war with them if they do that somewhere in Ukraine. Why do I get the feeling that we'll see? I have a feeling Eastern Europe will get a say in it too |
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Originally Posted By Theodoric: Not really. They are a major Russian military hardware client and China is a major threat to them. Something like 65% if their military foreign purchases are Russian. They also have billions of dollars in trade and Russia is going to assist them with building about 20 nuclear power plants. View Quote Yeah, India has had close ties to Russia since Soviet times. |
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If anything this has been a good shake out of who is who and who their alliances are with.
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Originally Posted By Ghostmonkey: It's not that shocking. Between 2016 and 2020 India accounted for almost a quarter of all military arms exports from Russia. India has billions of dollars invested into Russian weapons. They don't wanna lose that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ghostmonkey: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By daemon734: Originally Posted By et_slowpoke: That is the risk. I would be surprised if India trusts China on currency though. India is already phoning up China about it, and abstained in the UNSC's vote on the Russian invasion. The India abstention was shocking. It's not that shocking. Between 2016 and 2020 India accounted for almost a quarter of all military arms exports from Russia. India has billions of dollars invested into Russian weapons. They don't wanna lose that. Yes, but the China-Russian-India love triangle looks like a goat F*** |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: It seems like this would be an ideal time for Putin to announce that he has kicked the shit out of Ukraine for making noise about joining nato, and that now he is going to take his victorious heros back to Russia for some well earned parades and feasts. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ar15joe: How do you KNOW those were their BEST paratroopers or that there were any people on board at all? View Quote It makes no sense to do otherwise. |
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Theodoric: Not really. They are a major Russian military hardware client and China is a major threat to them. Something like 65% if their military foreign purchases are Russian. They also have billions of dollars in trade and Russia is going to assist them with building about 20 nuclear power plants. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Theodoric: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By daemon734: Originally Posted By et_slowpoke: That is the risk. I would be surprised if India trusts China on currency though. India is already phoning up China about it, and abstained in the UNSC's vote on the Russian invasion. The India abstention was shocking. India has played both sides for a long-time and as you said they are a major purchaser of Russian military hardware. I believe they will come around if Russia seeks to tie itself closer to China as India's main fear is a strong China. Pakistan is up there as well, but India considers themselves superior to Pakistan. China is a peer and an enemy, and when Russia ditches India for China's warm embrace the Indians will flip. |
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
View Quote This is big news if true. |
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Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Almost seems like Russian is doing a major resupply or regroup. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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The FBI delenda est!
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Originally Posted By si6oart: I concur. Ominously quiet, like before a tornado or in the eye of a hurricane. View Quote With the stories about logistics issues and the timetable being off, my guess is an operational pause to resupply and move to a branch plan. We're already hearing about the axis of advance in the south shifting east towards Mariupol, so perhaps they are making changes up north as well? Given what appears to be the failure of their plan to quickly seize the capital via airborne operations, they might be shifting to an alternate plan of surrounding the city. That isn't an easy task and it requires time to get the armored forces moving in the right direction and with the necessary supplies and fire support to accomplish it. A 24 hour pause to consolidate and reorganize before resuming the offensive would make sense. We'll know soon enough. |
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Originally Posted By RainierV:
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Day 4
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wtf is up with this, is this propaganda of propaganda? twitter rn is like expecting filet mignon and getting one of those meat glue steaks eta: someone said it was the exercises before the invasion, which would make sense |
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"No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to congress a power to disarm the people." William Rawle
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Originally Posted By Jackal-FnM: Yuan HUGE flaw in your theory.... India and China being partners. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jackal-FnM: Yuan HUGE flaw in your theory.... India and China being partners. Not really. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56164154 https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-explores-setting-up-rupee-trade-accounts-with-russia-soften-sanctions-blow-2022-02-25/ Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Russia's economy is the size of Texas. I'll beleive it when I see it. $$$ is king. What size is the economy of Russia and China together? How big will western economies be when they get 60-90% of their energy imports pulled out from under them? |
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Originally Posted By Action45: I don’t like it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Action45: Originally Posted By Chokey:
I don’t like it. Yup. Gives me a bad feeling. Its too quiet. |
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“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com: What rifles are those VHS? View Quote Ukrainian version of a CTAR. I think it's called the Fort-221. Edit: The Fort-221 carbine used by Ukrainian Special Forces is a license-built copy of the Israeli CTAR-21 bullpup weapon with 15-inch barrel, but chambered in 5.45x39mm instead of the usual 5.56x45mm. The IPI Malyuk (“Baby”), also known as the Vulcan-M, and also made in Ukraine, is a nearly-identical copy of the Fort-221 or CTAR-21, with a 16.33-inch barrel, in either 5.45x39mm or 7.62x39mm models, adopted for service in 2016. The AK-74 in 5.45mm is also in use, as the nation’s standard, assault rifle, and its compact AKS-74U (often suppressed) variant is the Ukrainian Army’s standard carbine, used by Special Forces and vehicle crews. |
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Originally Posted By NunyaBidness: Or they are awaiting orders that aren't coming. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NunyaBidness: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By GS_mk2: Originally Posted By Action45: I don't like it. Hope so, but I’m worried. My fear is Russia is regrouping, resupplying, keeping their guys out in preparation for nasty weapons, then go full attack starting with indiscriminate weapons. |
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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS Fact is stranger than fiction -Mark Twain |
Originally Posted By Cypher15: Come on.. Putin isnt an idiot neither are the generals. Theres no scenario where its a good idea to prolong a battle. You take out every single cache, base, etc that you can and you quickly take territory. Holding back only serves to harden the enemy. VDV is some of the best troops Russia has. View Quote Yeah, you're right. Just trying to make sense of the chaos. The only thing that really synchs up is they truly believed they would have been able to effect a link up and are surprised at the resistance. |
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Nothing makes sense with this war. Nothing.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Putin: 1. retreats his forces and declares "victory." 2. Goes scorched Earth and starts bombing civilian targets indiscriminately. There's been little news come out and I can't find a ton of info on Reddit Europe's live thread. What I did find out: -Damage from Russian shelling at Kharkiv -significant battle at Povitroflotsky bridge in Kyiv I gotta head to bed, long day tomorrow. Maybe I'll wake up to 30 pages to read through, or maybe things stay quiet. Really odd feeling I have about this thing though. |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
TN, USA
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Originally Posted By AROKIE: First combat footage from. Russia I've seen View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By hondaciv:
First combat footage from. Russia I've seen I think its from the Azeri-Armenia conflict. |
Panem et Circenses
Since it cost a lot to win and even more to lose... |
Originally Posted By CTAC: Why do I get the feeling that we'll see? I have a feeling Eastern Europe will get a say in it too View Quote I’ve had a bad feeling about this conflict since we started hearing an invasion was imminent. Putin has to be nearly insane to have committed to this invasion to begin with. There were plenty of posters on here in this thread saying it would most likely be a quagmire for Russia and that he didn’t have near enough forces to take Ukraine. The fact that he’s crazy enough to have risked all of this for his country, makes me think he’s crazy enough to fire off a tactical nuke. His speech on Monday confirms he’s not right in the head. Maybe he’s dying of cancer or something. I think this is one of the scariest times for nukes to potentially be used since the Cuban missile crisis or the Able Archer exercise in the early 1980s. |
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Got my 45 on so I can rock on.
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Originally Posted By MBentz: This is big news if true. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MBentz: Originally Posted By hondaciv:
This is big news if true. It's strange. Macron claims he held a call with Lukashenko and that Lukashenko was giving the green light for nukes to be stationed there. According to TASS it's the opposite:
Ambiguity and confusion about who's stationing nuclear weapons and where isn't very comforting. Macron has tried to interject himself throughout this conflict and keeps coming out looking foolish. Has to be an intentional part of the information war, no? |
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God Bless Edward Snowden.
God Bless Ammon Bundy. quod est necessarium est licitum Interim call sign: Tiffany |
Ok it’s been more than 24 hours. Where’s a single verifiable current photo of proof that Ukraine downed 2 IL76? I want to believe! But the only photo I’ve seen of a down transport said “this is what a destroyed one looks like in this photo from 2014”. Hard to believe with all the tweets that we only have a cryptic Marco Rubio text only tweet, even in his position, as the most credible source that even one was downed let alone 2.
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Originally Posted By BigReb: Yup. Gives me a bad feeling. Its too quiet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigReb: Originally Posted By Action45: Originally Posted By Chokey:
I don’t like it. Yup. Gives me a bad feeling. Its too quiet. Out of gas. |
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