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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:40:23 PM EDT
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Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:40:31 PM EDT
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Turn around. Drive home, pick up rifle, kill Russians…
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:41:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:

It’s an extremely insensitive explosion.
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:
Originally Posted By ALostKey:
So when the ruskie armor, which is covered in ERA, gets hit with molotovs, what happens to the ERA? does it burn and turn the vehicle into a ruskie Dutch oven?

It’s an extremely insensitive explosion.



I'm wondering if it will deflagrate and burn like a road flare
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:41:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JamesP81:


They are the very best on earth at gaslighting and sowing confusion.
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Yep. Russian IO absolutely works.


They are the very best on earth at gaslighting and sowing confusion.
We just lived through two years of that right here in the good ol' US of A.  

Trust nothing.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:42:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Ukraine’s Civilians Take Up Arms Against Russia’s Invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifhD-ZGChr8


Volunteers queue to join Ukrainian army

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This guy speaks almost perfect English
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:42:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TripleC:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.
Chemical weapons?
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:43:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:


Interesting tweet from Rubio
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This coupled with the reports of TOS-1 moving through Ukraine is...unsettling
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:43:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FrankyRay:
Former Miss Grand Ukraine joins fight against Russian invasion

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/2BD22B16-801A-4D76-BC06-1EB33A69113B_jpe-2294472.JPG




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Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:44:24 PM EDT
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I’m sure these were posted earlier, but just in case



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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Chemical weapons?
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.
Chemical weapons?


I think more of thermobaric and/or just general shelling of civilian areas, especially in Kyiv.
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The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.
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Say, whatever happened to that 24 years old American French Foreign Legion veteran who volunteered in Ukraine?
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Whoa
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Originally Posted By Javak:
Say, whatever happened to that 24 years old American French Foreign Legion veteran who volunteered in Ukraine?
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.deaded.  ?
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:47:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.


Could be SIGINT or something too, but your point stands. Very interesting.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:47:37 PM EDT
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I think US, and as a result, Rubio, has intelligence that military/ground leaders morale is low, Putin/higher command are frustrated, so they are appealing to the military on the ground to just surrender/stop while they may already be thinking it. Wanting them to really think long and hard about the actions Putin has or will request to terminate citizens.
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Well that's a bit ominous.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:48:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TripleC:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.



What does not happen?
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:48:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrGoodkat:
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Whoa


Been done B4

Nuremberg trials....biatches

This time Russia v. World

Not going to end well.  Never whole world against you.  

Remember Mussolini hanging, Vlad?
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/8FA8EFBB-E5D8-4334-A2E6-8B8679EC7D2C_jpe-2294520.JPG

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He wont be the last.....guaranteed
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Whoa

Yeah, things like this make it hard to go to sleep
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:50:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:



What does not happen?
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Its a jump to conclusions, but there have been reports of Russian TOS-1A thermobaric MLRS systems staging around one or more major population centers. Good way to cook all the women and children hiding in bomb shelters and the subways.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:50:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.
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Theres more to unpack than that I think.  Him mentioning Putins only 2 years away from dying (on average) ties in again with his earlier tweet that "his problem now is different & significant" in regards to Putin
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:



What does not happen?
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:
Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.



What does not happen?
Russian higher ups going "FUCK IT!" and hitting Kiev with thermobaric weapons or tactical nukes, killing millions of civilians in what would definitely be a war crime.
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The Canada thing vanished like a fart in the wind.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:50:31 PM EDT
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Ukraine Invasion: Ukrainians prepare to defend Kyiv
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Originally Posted By TripleC:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.


Not sure what he is referring to. Could be any number of things. It could be some sort of false flag event using chemicals in a weak attempt to get the home front and the troops on board. It could be he's alluding to some sort of plan to use chems/bio/tactical nukes. Or it could simply be about shelling and bombing civilian occupied areas.

That said, thus far the Russians have actually been much less ruthless than they are typically known for. Sure, they have killed civilians, hit civilian occupied buildings and shot some civilians from what I've heard. But they actually have seemed to go out of their way not to intentionally target stuff like that. Compare this to what they did in Aleppo or Grozny and you'll see what I mean. So I'm not sure they are planning something dastardly like a bio/chem/nuke attack against Ukraine. But I am sure they will start to use more heavy handed tactics if they don't start having more success.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:51:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NunyaBidness:
Uhhh is that why they lost at least two plane loads of their best paratroopers doing some fucking dumbass Market Garden re-enactment in an AO where they don't have air superiority and is teeming with stingers?
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Same here, I'm not buying the whole 'send in the conscripts with bad equipment first' thing.
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.

Yup.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:51:30 PM EDT
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Could Zelensky win the Nobel peace prize if Ukraine kicks Russias ass and Putin get clapped?
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:



What does not happen?
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:
Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.



What does not happen?



TOS-1 heavy flamethrower, capable of vaporizing human bodies, near Ukrainian border, footage shows
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:51:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:



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Little Marco tracks down Russian commanders and charge them with war crimes? lol
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:51:57 PM EDT
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Rubio seems to build on his tweets. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s talking about orders to use the thermobaric weapons in residential areas in Kyiv.

No way they are taking Kyiv without committing war crimes against the people.
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Welp....if they follow which some are absolutely going to do,  we're going to see just how much NATO can stomach.  Lots of turns of events already and I wouldn't expect that to change.  Some of the most Eastern NATO allies might very well say enough is enough and move on their own if they can't get NATO to jump.

Before anyone says anything about this tweet; cuz it happens every time one is posted from him;  he's been spot on for the last 3 days.
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Originally Posted By Tuco22:

Well that's a bit ominous.
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Originally Posted By Tuco22:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Well that's a bit ominous.
Yea not a warm fuzzy.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:52:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Means that Russia may drop bombs tonight.
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What does that even mean
Means that Russia may drop bombs tonight.


Those bomber have been active every night. They do t fly into Ukraine but launch cruise missiles over Russia. They don’t come near the border.
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I am startin to find myself more and more here......
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/8FA8EFBB-E5D8-4334-A2E6-8B8679EC7D2C_jpe-2294520.JPG

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"suicide" or actual suicide I wonder
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Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Its a jump to conclusions, but there have been reports of Russian TOS-1A thermobaric MLRS systems staging around one or more major population centers. Good way to cook all the women and children hiding in bomb shelters and the subways.
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Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Originally Posted By AROKIE:



What does not happen?
Its a jump to conclusions, but there have been reports of Russian TOS-1A thermobaric MLRS systems staging around one or more major population centers. Good way to cook all the women and children hiding in bomb shelters and the subways.



The ghost of Kyiv will multiply 100X.  

Maybe also a new ghost of Minsk.
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Eh... why would you hold back your main force? If you want it over quick you follow your doctrine to a T not pussy foot around like a bunch of retards.
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You use the first 48 hours to exhaust the defenders physically and deplete their supply of most effective anti-tank munitions. Then, the 1st Guards Tank Army does the Thunder Run to Kiev. That is not the way we would do it, but the Russians ain't us. In this scenario, the next 36 hours are fairly decisive. Either the attacking force can't get through the clutter on the battlefield in good order for the breakthrough because of the efforts of the defenders, or they make a breakthrough and Ukraine has to try and reform a defense east of Lviv to maintain control of some territory, protect the supply route from Poland, and possibly gather forces for counter attack.
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Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:


Expend all the enemies munitions and gain ground until you hit walls of resistance that require the big boys. It makes sense unfortunately. Also very likely Russia over estimated their own capability and thought they might accomplish their goals with the JV squad, I think this is indicated by the failed airborne ops.
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Come on.. Putin isnt an idiot neither are the generals.  Theres no scenario where its a good idea to prolong a battle.  You take out every single cache, base, etc that you can and you quickly take territory.  Holding back only serves to harden the enemy. VDV is some of the best troops Russia has.
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What does not happen?
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

Fuck...

Let us hope this does not happen.



What does not happen?

War crimes. You know, like intentionally killing civilians en masse? Those thermobarics basically have war crimes written on them if fired into a large city
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 11:53:46 PM EDT
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The 4'10" on the left gets a little gun
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Originally Posted By FrankyRay:
Former Miss Grand Ukraine joins fight against Russian invasion

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/2BD22B16-801A-4D76-BC06-1EB33A69113B_jpe-2294472.JPG




*Awkward silence....................


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/546602/UkraineArmedCivilians_03_jpg-2294522.JPG
The 4'10" on the left gets a little gun



I like the angry one on the far right.
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:


Could be SIGINT or something too, but your point stands. Very interesting.
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.


Could be SIGINT or something too, but your point stands. Very interesting.

Doesn't matter where the intel came from.  What matters is what they think, and if they think there's a mole, they'll start eating each other.
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:
Originally Posted By 4thbreak:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.


Except wouldn't he be compromising, or at least narrowing down his source?
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Originally Posted By Parabellum08:


I just checked my copy of the book. The political officer that Ramius kills in Chapter One is indeed Putin .

IIRC the doctor was Petrov.
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Originally Posted By Parabellum08:


Political Officer of the Red October.

No, that was Putridov.
Actually I think it was Petrov.


I just checked my copy of the book. The political officer that Ramius kills in Chapter One is indeed Putin .

IIRC the doctor was Petrov.

Thanks. Been a while since I read it last. My favorite was the guy (book) the Russian observer the deepsea driver twisted into "kepitan Kagonobitch" when they were getting the dial that was marked Kazny Oktyaber from the seafloor.
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I said in the beginning this feels orchestrated. From the very top including the US.

The response of the Ukrainian people is fucking amazing. And hopefully they can shock the world.

But don’t be fooled. We got Russia to take the bait and fight us in a proxy war. Ukrainian has American politicians, intel and various forms of support. Questions here if we are providing intel. Of course we are, but not in rapid response to an organic event.

I really feel for the people of Russia. All these sanctions and financial leverage moves are going to hurt them. There’s a difference between fuck Russia and fuck the common Russian. Those thousands of anti war Russian protestors are going to get fucked. So are we, so are common people around the globe. They have gotten the shit end of the stick for over 100 years since the Bolshevik revolution. So has Ukraine. And now they are at war with each other. They are about to get it again.

It’s good to see Putin fail at what he thinks he’s so fucking good at. But when he does and becomes former president of Russia, it will be under a progressive democrat US administration.

Despite the miracle Ukraine appears to be pulling off. We aren’t going to enjoy the “never let a crisis go to waste.” Phase of all this.

Remember this thread. Because we’re all about to become deranged Putin supporters that don’t deserve to breathe US air in democrat controlled America. The narrative is so fast because this was all orchestrated.

Like Covid, the last election, every significant thing that has happened in the last 30 years.

Carry on.
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:

Theres more to unpack than that I think.  Him mentioning Putins only 2 years away from dying (on average) ties in again with his earlier tweet that "his problem now is different & significant" in regards to Putin
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:

The real purpose of this tweet is to tell the Russians we have a source inside the highest echelons of their military command.  That would scare them far more than any supposed war crimes tribunal. It sows suspicion and mistrust among the Russian General Staff.

Theres more to unpack than that I think.  Him mentioning Putins only 2 years away from dying (on average) ties in again with his earlier tweet that "his problem now is different & significant" in regards to Putin


And this
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