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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 7:43:40 AM EDT
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Drone shootdown over Odesa
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Posted: 10/22/2022 7:46:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Drone shootdown over Odesa
Nice! Looked like a MiG-29 likely using an AA-11 Archer. 80s tech but still one of the most capable IR missiles out there. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 7:54:44 AM EDT
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The path to perceived success in Russia- talk about infrastructure attacks in the national media and then do it, even if it doesn't actually do anything meaningful.
Ukrainian energy company Today, October 22, the Rashists carried out another missile attack on energy facilities of main networks in the western regions of Ukraine. The scale of damage is comparable or may exceed the consequences of the attack on October 10-12. https://t.me/Ukrenergo/1584 Presidential Office Deputy Another defiant attack by the occupiers on our infrastructure. The enemy continues to attack energy facilities in various regions of our country. As of now, 672,000 subscribers have been disconnected in Khmelnytskyi Oblast, 188,400 in Mykolaiv Oblast, 102,000 in Volyn Oblast, 242,000 in Cherkasy Oblast, 174,790 in Rivne Oblast, 61,913 in Kirovohrad Oblast, and 10,500 in Odesa Oblast. A total of 18 missiles were destroyed by air defense forces. Specialists immediately start repair work on the affected areas! There will be light! Don't forget about savings! https://t.me/tymoshenko_kyrylo/2408 - All five rockets flying on Kyiv in the first volley were shot down. Rovno, Lutsk, Khmelnitsky, Odessa and Kiev regions - arrivals and/or - the consequences of falling down missiles. Communication and light outages in the hit areas. We pay the price of freedom. And the Russian Federation compensates us for it: https://www.facebook.com/alexey.arestovich/posts/pfbid04TYdVooKBRpDoP1khSRDWqFZsjA5vkaq3ke6BKWupFVvQW8fBrZX4NiQpSiUHQaSl |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 7:57:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#4]
Kherson
The Orc checkpoint on the Island has disappeared - and the flag has appeared
 Two interpretations of the same event.
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:06:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: So how many himars does 8th army need? If 16 is enough to fuck up the Russian army, when would they need 400 because 384 just isn’t enough against the North Korean army? The US army GMLRS numbers are based on using them as a replacement for ‘dumb’ artillery. What we’ve seen in the Ukraine war is that the US needs to rethink how to use accurate long range firepower on the battlefield. The longer overall answer is that supplying weapons to Ukraine now keeps the Russians from supporting China in a war against the US. 16 launchers now means we don’t need to keep 100 in reserve in Western Europe ‘just in case the Russians attack.” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: Originally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By Capta: So why would we provide them to South Korea to help destroy one of our two strategic adversaries (China and its proxy NK) but not to Ukraine to destroy our other strategic adversary, Russia? I don't know if you're being intentionally dense or you're just not aware that we have US troops stationed in South Korea while we don't have US troops in Ukraine. We're not providing them to South Korea we're providing them to ourselves. It's not going to be South Koreans using those GMLRS, it's going to be 8th Army. So how many himars does 8th army need? If 16 is enough to fuck up the Russian army, when would they need 400 because 384 just isn’t enough against the North Korean army? The US army GMLRS numbers are based on using them as a replacement for ‘dumb’ artillery. What we’ve seen in the Ukraine war is that the US needs to rethink how to use accurate long range firepower on the battlefield. The longer overall answer is that supplying weapons to Ukraine now keeps the Russians from supporting China in a war against the US. 16 launchers now means we don’t need to keep 100 in reserve in Western Europe ‘just in case the Russians attack.” During the GWOT GMLRS and Excalibur we're used to mitigate civilian casualties. For peer and near peer conflict GMLRS numbers are mostly based on the target sets that Corps and Divisions will service. Basically they are the ground force’s long-range fire used to target tomorrow’s fight, while the tube artillery is meant for the close, continuous support of the maneuver elements and will use their Excalibur to hit targets that we have had the luxury of using air to service during the GWOT. What the Ukrainian war is showing us is 1) the Russians are not a credible conventional force, and the risk to their European neighbors was over rated, any training credible force could fight them to a stand still. 2) US doctrine to use fires to shape the battle field by hitting targets that effect tomorrow works. What the Ukrainians are doing with their missiles is what we do but they benefitting from fighting an incompetent military |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:10:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:24:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Kherson The Orc checkpoint on the Island has disappeared - and the flag has appeared
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffq8ENIWIAAYjKP?format=jpg&name=large Two interpretations of the same event.
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:25:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Wow... in 2022, a fresh new Stinger will cost you close to half a mil, up from $40k in 1988. The advertised price is like $200k each, but the program cost brings it up to that to pay for updating the design and restarting production. After the first batch is finished in 2025 or so, that might drop down to a quarter mil each, depending on quantities ordered and inflation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/exclusive-us-army-replenishes-stinger-missiles-after-ukraine-shipments-2022-05-27/ The advertised price is like $200k each, but the program cost brings it up to that to pay for updating the design and restarting production. After the first batch is finished in 2025 or so, that might drop down to a quarter mil each, depending on quantities ordered and inflation. To be honest, the stinger is pretty much considered obsolete, and going to be replaced by the Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (M-SHORAD) system by 2027, with large manufacturing orders for it. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:34:39 AM EDT
[#9]
I keep looking for an impossible UKE river crossing north of Kherson, throwing the Russians into a -serious- panic.
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:36:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Worse than Russian mumbo-jumbo... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: How many decoy MALD's and MALD-J's do you have available? Can I use older TALD's? What is the composition of the task group? Can I employ Active Jamming with EF-18's and HARM equipped groups to deter the enemies detection of and firing at the incoming cruise missiles? Am I limited to using Harpoons only? Or can I use LRASM's? Are there any US submarines in the area to make a coordinated attack? I have so many questions.  Worse than Russian mumbo-jumbo... lol, it's actually part of an equation that mission planners use to figure out how many anti ship cruise missiles or weapons should be employed against enemy surface ships. The point being is that equation can constantly change. If I can't use electronic counter measures, if I have no decoy systems, or Harms to employ, and only the anti ship missiles, I'll have use a crap ton of them to overwhelm the individual ships fire control systems to get enough through to destroy the ship. Take the Moscow for example. Before this war, it was assumed she would require 4 hits from Harpoons to destroy her. However, because of her missile systems CIWS, etc. if I wanted to overwhelm her to get those hits, I'd have to use a lot more than 4 missiles as she tries to shoot them down until what is left can impact her, perhaps over a dozen would be used. That's expensive. However, if she's being jammed, and cheap $30,000 decoys are used to fool the ships radars and waste time firing on false targets, I can get away with much less anti ship missiles being used. In the case of LRASM in the example above, I may only need one to do the job. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:37:00 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: , and the risk to their European neighbors was over rated, We can say now they conventionally aren't a threat to Europe cause they are getting ass kicked in Ukraine. Hindsight and all. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:38:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: What the Ukrainian war is showing us is 1) the Russians are not a credible conventional force, and the risk to their European neighbors was over rated, any training credible force could fight them to a stand still. 2) US doctrine to use fires to shape the battle field by hitting targets that effect tomorrow works. What the Ukrainians are doing with their missiles is what we do but they benefitting from fighting an incompetent military Spot on 
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:40:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: Well I’m going to the event tomorrow with James and Rip. I want to thank everyone for giving me such a good handle on everything. I wouldn’t have even known about the event if it weren’t for the posts here. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/A39F34B8-F289-4D19-80E2-CF72385192ED-2571640.jpg I plan to share what Gentlemanfarmer has been doing as well as the likes of Dillydilly’s family, M35ben…and others’ (sorry I can’t remember all the screen names) anecdotes (if I even get that kind of facetime outside of a selfie). I guess if anyone has anything in particular they’d like communicated I’ll try my best. I did exchange a couple messages with James and he liked what everyone has been doing in our little necks of the woods of course. ETA: @Almightytallest are you available to come? I can pick you up or meet you there. It would be another great arfcom coming together That's awesome to see, I would have been honored to attend if I could have made better plans, I'm sorry to have to decline this time. I'm taking care of my mother though today so I'd love to hear about your experience there when you find the time. You are too kind to offer me a ride into the city like that.
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:43:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Couple examples of UA training. The obstacle course is worth watching, obvious western influences.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:44:42 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taboot: From the comments of one of the tweets you posted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/186407/Screenshot_20221022-082025_Twitter-2571896.jpg Higher resolution glory: 
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:49:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:50:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: I meant to say yesterday…that's rather more strongly worded than usual  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian forces will likely attempt to blow up the dam at the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (HPP) to cover their withdrawal and to prevent Ukrainian forces from pursuing Russian forces deeper into Kherson Oblast. Russian forces will almost certainly blame Ukraine for the dam attack, as ISW has previously assessed.[11] Ukraine has no material interest in blowing the dam, which could flood 80 Ukrainian cities and displace hundreds of thousands of people while damaging Ukraine’s already-tenuous electricity supply. Russia, however, has every reason to attempt to provide cover to its retreating forces and to widen the Dnipro River, which Ukrainian forces would need to cross to continue their counteroffensive. Any claims that Russian forces would not blow the dam due to concerns for the water supply to Crimea are absurd. Crimea survived without access to the canal flowing from the Dnipro since Russia illegally invaded and annexed it in 2014 through the restoration of access following Russia’s invasion in February 2022. Russian officials have demonstrated their ability to indefinitely supply Crimea with water without access to the canal. Russian forces will try to hold eastern Kherson Oblast not for the water, but rather to provide a buffer zone that enables the defense of Crimea and prevents Ukrainian forces from getting into artillery range of the peninsula. Russian decisionmakers may believe that blowing the dam will enable them to retain that buffer zone. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned on October 21 that blowing the dam could cut water supplies to much of southern Ukraine and would pose a serious risk to the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP), which lies upstream of the dam.[12] The ZNPP relies on water from the Kakhovka reservoir to cool its facilities. I meant to say yesterday…that's rather more strongly worded than usual I was surpised to see that in the assessment too.
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:54:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By Taboot: From the comments of one of the tweets you posted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/186407/Screenshot_20221022-082025_Twitter-2571896.jpg Higher resolution glory: https://i.imgur.com/1sxHcD0.jpg I gotta admit, once I'm convinced something's legit, I may not even finish watching it. And as often as "don't read the comments" is the right answer...thanks (both) for taking one for the team there |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 8:54:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I think that NLAW failure was it being within the 20m arming range. The guy who quoted me the APS/Arena being successfully used said it was the first few days of the invasion, whereas that video I recall was the later Azovstal/Maripol stage. He's a guy I trust but would like to find confirmation. Whether APS systems actually work in combat is hugely relevant to the future of the tank and the ATGM. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: Every ATGM in the Western world is getting a chance. I think you know this already. No, all have worked, but anecdotally, - one video from an urban area (from an upper floor of a building) showed an NLAW fired downward onto a Russian T72; it struck the turret but did not “appear” to disable the tank as usual. Looks like the operator we too close to the tank (operator error) and the warhead may not have armed/detonated. - one Russian video showed Russians trying to use a Stugna-P on a Ukr truck. They missed. Operator error. Not every ATGM launch is filmed. So there is no way to know. Every system I’ve seen (there are a half dozen or so) has scored destructions of the T72 and other Russian tanks. I doubt the “Armata” would be any better against modern, western ATGMs. But we will probably never know since the Russians can’t make more than a handful. On another forum I'm a member on (a international mil weapons nerds forum) a german member said that some of the Russian tanks used in the very initial few days of the invasion had APS (active protection systems) which did prove effective at shooting down some RPG/AT/ATGM rounds. Can anyone here confirm that? Ah - the Arena system. Cannot confirm use and/or successful use in Ukraine. However - this is interesting: - the following Russian info-video happens to include the very same video i mentioned, where an ATGM (believe it’s an NLAW) is fired downward at fairly close range. (The Orcs even claim “fired by a Nazi from Azov”  ).The video implies that Arena was responsible for saving the tank:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXtq6-6eFQAGiven the Russian propensity to lie about almost everything, I have my doubts this was Arena. I think that NLAW failure was it being within the 20m arming range. The guy who quoted me the APS/Arena being successfully used said it was the first few days of the invasion, whereas that video I recall was the later Azovstal/Maripol stage. He's a guy I trust but would like to find confirmation. Whether APS systems actually work in combat is hugely relevant to the future of the tank and the ATGM. Here is video of Trophy APS in use on Merkava tanks.  Trophy "Windbreaker" - Operational Interceptions (2014) - Active Protection System |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:08:50 AM EDT
[#20]
I asked a few pages back but I didn't see a response so I'll give it another shot....
What part of the US is comparable to Ukrainian winter? Would it be like Kansas? Does the Black Sea make it closer to the lake effect weather of Ohio? Neither? |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:17:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: I asked a few pages back but I didn't see a response so I'll give it another shot.... What part of the US is comparable to Ukrainian winter? Would it be like Kansas? Does the Black Sea make it closer to the lake effect weather of Ohio? Neither? Possibly I noticed winter set in earlier and ended earlier. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:23:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: It's a large country so there is variation, but I've been there separate trips in end of November, end of December, and middle of March. In central eastern Ukraine was where I was, and I thought the weather was similar to what we have here in central Ohio. Possibly I noticed winter set in earlier and ended earlier. Thanks. I lived a good bit of my life in NE Ohio so def don't have to use my imagination much to picture that weather |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:24:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: I gotta admit, once I'm convinced something's legit, I may not even finish watching it. And as often as "don't read the comments" is the right answer...thanks (both) for taking one for the team there Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By Taboot: From the comments of one of the tweets you posted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/186407/Screenshot_20221022-082025_Twitter-2571896.jpg Higher resolution glory: https://i.imgur.com/1sxHcD0.jpg I gotta admit, once I'm convinced something's legit, I may not even finish watching it. And as often as "don't read the comments" is the right answer...thanks (both) for taking one for the team there  |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:35:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Thanks. I lived a good bit of my life in NE Ohio so def don't have to use my imagination much to picture that weather Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: It's a large country so there is variation, but I've been there separate trips in end of November, end of December, and middle of March. In central eastern Ukraine was where I was, and I thought the weather was similar to what we have here in central Ohio. Possibly I noticed winter set in earlier and ended earlier. Thanks. I lived a good bit of my life in NE Ohio so def don't have to use my imagination much to picture that weather   |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:35:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The point is that the weapon systems that we paid for are being used to do exactly what they are intended to do - destroy our strategic enemies and do so without us even lifting a finger. Destroying Russia as a strategic threat to the US and its allies is worth 100 times the price of what we’re spending. It’s interesting how the shills latch onto and then mutually reinforce when they think an issue has traction. Fortunately, shills are not making US policy decisions. I dont think anyone (I cannot speak for everyone including R0N) is arguing that we should NOT give them to Ukraine. Most of us, including me, think we should give the UA 50 HIMARS and ATACMS, F16's and Patriots. But some folks, who do have inside knowledge, ARE concerned with the US stocks of ordinance. I personally do not trust the Xiden admin to have the USA as their #1 priority, either because of malice or incompetence. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:57:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: So how many himars does 8th army need? If 16 is enough to fuck up the Russian army, when would they need 400 because 384 just isn’t enough against the North Korean army? The US army GMLRS numbers are based on using them as a replacement for ‘dumb’ artillery. What we’ve seen in the Ukraine war is that the US needs to rethink how to use accurate long range firepower on the battlefield. The longer overall answer is that supplying weapons to Ukraine now keeps the Russians from supporting China in a war against the US. 16 launchers now means we don’t need to keep 100 in reserve in Western Europe ‘just in case the Russians attack.” You may want to go back and reread the entire conversation between Capta and I from the beginning. All I've done was first correct him on his assertion that the Taiwan conflict would be solely a naval/air war and I stated that if a situation kicked off over Taiwan it's likely it would also kick off in Korea and involve Chinese reinforcements. Capta then took that as saying we'd need to arm the South Koreans which led to the comment you quoted. At no point in any of this have I said anything about either giving or not giving Ukraine HIMARS. I'm pretty sure I said I wasn't coming down on either side of this shitshow. If you can quote me anywhere where it seems to have been implied that we shouldn't give Ukraine anything I'd appreciate it because that wasn't the intent at all. Moving on to the rest of your post. The US hasn't been involved in a LSCO fight since 2003. I'm not a fires guy, I'm rotary wing attack aviation so I can't speak for whether or not we need to rethink our use of accurate long range fires. We do need to rethink our rotary wing aviation employment but that's a whole different story. All I know from having worked with the guys assigned with doing the counter battery and ground based SEAD/DEAD missions in Korea is that it's pretty much all HIMARS units doing it hence my response to Capta that we'd probably be using GMLRS if the balloon went up over Taiwan. Personally I'm glad we've supported Ukraine if for nothing else than (if we've done this smart) the amount of technical intelligence we've gotten on captured front line Russian air defense and radar systems alone would make the price worth it let alone the other strategic benefits. But pointing out that one guy failed to consider that if war breaks out over Taiwan it's not likely to remain solely on or around the island of Taiwan itself apparently makes me a shill. Neat. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 9:58:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: There is an extremely well-known problem with low-post count individuals wading in with pro-Russian talking points. I think a lot of SHILLS who have not participated in the last 2,000 pages of this thread have suddenly materialized, alleging that our national security is being critically compromised by handing Ukraine 16 HIMARS out of 400. That’s what I think. L-O-Fucking-L |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:02:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThank you |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:13:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Obama / Biden White House staff consulted - they determined ground war at final phase - this is your current NSC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYfvm-JLhPQQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Capta: Ergo, not one single round of 5.56 can be given to Ukraine because that last 5.56 round launched at the proper trajectory could’ve killed that one extra Chinese soldier that wins or loses the war. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/87D543F5-C33B-475C-95CD-45D86133DAC9-476.gif Obama / Biden White House staff consulted - they determined ground war at final phase - this is your current NSC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYfvm-JLhPQWell that was interesting… 7th Fleet in Japan, Guam & the Marianas preemptively attacked / destroyed at the outset of the war, and then command nodes / facilities in AK, CA, HI attacked as the war drags on. US fails to maintain air supremacy over Taiwan. China conducts an above surface nuclear test in the Pacific. The real surprise was hearing Rep. Sherrill (D-NJ) and others conclude that deterrence was cheaper than war. No shit? You just know the Chinese are wargaming the hell out of this future conflict every day and are concluding that a massive strike to cripple us on Day 1 is the most likely way to win. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:14:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/north-korea-artillery_n_58f631a4e4b0b9e9848eb990 https://warisboring.com/forget-nukes-for-a-minute-north-koreas-artillery-still-is-dangerous-as-hell/ https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/warisboring.com/images/170425215227-02-kim-jong-un-live-fire-drill-super-169-768x432.jpg Lots of guns there, not many rounds. I want to watch them feed that many guns that close together. It would be even more fun watching them blow up sitting that close. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:16:29 AM EDT
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 A surgeon in the field hospital of the LPR spoke about the wounds on the front line https://ria.ru/20221022/raneniya-1825840047.html Surgeon of the field hospital in the LPR: doctors are increasingly faced with arrow-shaped elements SVATOVO (LPR), Oct. 22 - RIA Novosti. RIA Novosti correspondents managed to visit a field hospital in the LPR and talk with surgeons who save the lives of wounded fighters every day, they told about the nature of the wounds. "We have recently encountered such striking elements as balls and arrow-shaped elements. They, despite their small size, cause very large damage inside the chest and abdominal cavities, "one of the doctors told RIA Novosti. According to the agency's interlocutor, such striking elements differ from ordinary fragments and have often begun to occur in the last two months. In a personal conversation with RIA Novosti, the wounded fighters suggest that they are hit with shrapnel shells, since the ammunition explodes in the air and the striking elements injure a large number of servicemen at once. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:17:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pivoproseem: I keep looking for an impossible UKE river crossing north of Kherson, throwing the Russians into a -serious- panic. It is definitely not impossible to see something like that. But it wouldn’t be a long term thing, enough to flank and cut northern gloc. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:22:34 AM EDT
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1533 22.10.2022 (Updated: 17:15 22.10.2022)
Residents of Kherson were urged to immediately cross to the left bank of the Dnieper https://ria.ru/20221022/kherson-1825913730.html MOSCOW, Oct. 22 — RIA Novosti. Residents of Kherson must urgently leave the city because of the threat of shelling and terrorist attacks, Reported local administration. The authorities stressed that the situation at the front remains tense. There is a possibility of massive strikes on Kherson, as well as sabotage. It is also specified that this applies to all units and ministries of civil administration. You can go to the left bank of the Dnieper from "Rechport", located on Odessa Square, 4. From there, river boats depart to the town of Aleshka. For all questions, the authorities urged to call the hotline: +7 800 301 99 99. Former Commander of the Joint Group of Forces in the Area of Military Operation Sergey Surovikin said that there is evidence of the possible use of prohibited methods of war by the Kiev regime in the area Kherson. In addition, it was about the preparation by Ukrainian troops of a massive missile strike on the dam of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station, as well as the shelling of the city indiscriminately. Moscow has spread in UNSC a letter calling for the prevention of destruction Kiev dams of The Kakhovka HPP. As noted by the permanent representative of Russia to the organization Vassily Nebenzia, this can lead to the death of thousands of people. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:24:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Thanks. I lived a good bit of my life in NE Ohio so def don't have to use my imagination much to picture that weather Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: It's a large country so there is variation, but I've been there separate trips in end of November, end of December, and middle of March. In central eastern Ukraine was where I was, and I thought the weather was similar to what we have here in central Ohio. Possibly I noticed winter set in earlier and ended earlier. Thanks. I lived a good bit of my life in NE Ohio so def don't have to use my imagination much to picture that weather Northern and central Ukraine (Kyiv had snow pack mid nov till early march) 2008,9,10. Around the coast in the south it’s more like New Jersey or Delaware. It’s cold and it snows but there isn’t constant snowpack. It’s much different. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:26:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Thanks. I lived a good bit of my life in NE Ohio so def don't have to use my imagination much to picture that weather Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: It's a large country so there is variation, but I've been there separate trips in end of November, end of December, and middle of March. In central eastern Ukraine was where I was, and I thought the weather was similar to what we have here in central Ohio. Possibly I noticed winter set in earlier and ended earlier. Thanks. I lived a good bit of my life in NE Ohio so def don't have to use my imagination much to picture that weather I’m in Ashtabula right now. Lived here for 2 years a long time ago. I definitely don’t miss the freezing cold wind off Lake Erie. But I can see why a lot of Ukrainians who immigrated settled here |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:28:44 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 307Patriot: WWIII is a decision away. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 307Patriot: Originally Posted By sq40: If Russia blows that damn, Ukraine needs to hit their desalination plants. WWIII is a decision away.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:29:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: This is tricky at the moment as NL is placing orders for arms at the very same producers the US uses. Due to our home grown hippies/communists trying to produce splody/murdery stuff here is quite diffucult due to red tape and al sorts of enviromental rules. Yeah, this is rubber meets the road realities. But we’ll have to wade thru it all to get to the other side. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:30:52 AM EDT
[#38]
Putin's troops moan that they have been issued with plastic paintball masks, children's gloves and rubber boots to fight on the front line of Russia's war with Ukraine
 Video Putin's troops moaned that they have been issued with plastic paintball masks, children's gloves and rubber boots to fight in Ukraine. Footage taken in Stavropol region in southern Russia reveals a man complaining about the pitiful resources he has for fighting, showing his paintball mask. The man said: 'Thank you for these warm gifts for mobilized fighters. 'They think we will be wandering around like Star Wars wearing this b*******t, with no aim and no goal.' More |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:33:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#39]
CO of the Georgian Legion
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:36:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gentlemanfarmer]
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First load of hard goods from the fundraiser went for delivery.
My wife was busy so I filled in for a pic. Those are my firearms and have nothing to do with the foundation I was just going to the range. Americans in Ukraine  Attached FileWe still have at least 40 boxes of mil clothing to ship and have to pick up 44 pairs of winter boots and 40  Attached Fileparkas from a GSA auction. Thanks guys, we went over budget but hey out fitting 200++ guys tip to bottom in winter gear, plus a lot of extra special order type stuff and gear donations (these bags) make for happy November to the guys in 3 units.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:36:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Kherson The Orc checkpoint on the Island has disappeared - and the flag has appeared
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffq8ENIWIAAYjKP?format=jpg&name=large Two interpretations of the same event.
Looks like Ukrainian partisans captured some ruskies at home in Kherson. Those Ukrainians are dressed like older civilians and thr younger ones using outdated uniforms so that tells me partisans are rounding up the left overs |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:40:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Well that was interesting… 7th Fleet in Japan, Guam & the Marianas preemptively attacked / destroyed at the outset of the war, and then command nodes / facilities in AK, CA, HI attacked as the war drags on. US fails to maintain air supremacy over Taiwan. China conducts an above surface nuclear test in the Pacific. The real surprise was hearing Rep. Sherrill (D-NJ) and others conclude that deterrence was cheaper than war. No shit? You just know the Chinese are wargaming the hell out of this future conflict every day and are concluding that a massive strike to cripple us on Day 1 is the most likely way to win. We need to preposition stocks and right size what will be needed. But I don’t have much confidence in this White House to follow thru on necessary steps. Did you catch the part about long war? |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:42:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmUJCbWYAA1P8m?format=jpg&name=medium
CO of the Georgian Legion
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfilV7WWIAoL8xQ?format=jpg&name=small
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffq8y45XEAIF1yI?format=jpg&name=small Dude holding the flag in that last picture looks like the guy who was reported killed a few posts up |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:44:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Dude holding the flag in that last picture looks like the guy who was reported killed a few posts up Good eye, that's him. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:47:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: I’m in Ashtabula right now. Lived here for 2 years a long time ago. I definitely don’t miss the freezing cold wind off Lake Erie. But I can see why a lot of Ukrainians who immigrated settled here From kindergarten to my early 20s we lived about 15 min from Youngstown. From traveling and spending most of the next 20yrs down south I absolutely miss and appreciate the huge Greek/Italian/Polish, etc influence on food. Best cold weather comfort food on earth. Hot sausage and peppers, cheeses....I'm so fucking tired of BBQ 
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Posted: 10/22/2022 10:58:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billy_Ringo: After the clip aired, Shaquille O'Neil and Barkley, two very prominent Hall of Famers, were visibly touched by the video and spoke for several minutes about the situation. Obviously not from a military/political standpoint--but on the humanistic side. O'Neil stated "I'll be writing them a check." Might be surprised at what the players and former players think. Shaq is a good dude. He could bring more attention to it as well |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 11:07:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: We need to preposition stocks and right size what will be needed. But I don’t have much confidence in this White House to follow thru on necessary steps. Did you catch the part about long war? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: Well that was interesting… 7th Fleet in Japan, Guam & the Marianas preemptively attacked / destroyed at the outset of the war, and then command nodes / facilities in AK, CA, HI attacked as the war drags on. US fails to maintain air supremacy over Taiwan. China conducts an above surface nuclear test in the Pacific. The real surprise was hearing Rep. Sherrill (D-NJ) and others conclude that deterrence was cheaper than war. No shit? You just know the Chinese are wargaming the hell out of this future conflict every day and are concluding that a massive strike to cripple us on Day 1 is the most likely way to win. We need to preposition stocks and right size what will be needed. But I don’t have much confidence in this White House to follow thru on necessary steps. Did you catch the part about long war? Sort of, and perhaps that’s another strategy available to the Communist Chinese; drag the war out and the American public will eventually demand a unilateral withdrawal. I don’t think it’s a viable COA though, in that America and our allies could inflict too much damage to the CCF getting to that tipping point. The Asian gal on the Red team was my favorite-seemed to be very authentic in the way she calculated and weighed her decisions. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 11:16:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: This is tricky at the moment as NL is placing orders for arms at the very same producers the US uses. Due to our home grown hippies/communists trying to produce splody/murdery stuff here is quite diffucult due to red tape and al sorts of enviromental rules. Reporter I’ve known since 2013 just had this article published https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-nato-united-states-business-government-and-politics-2cc634e38b50f43cfd1fb9a4e0412c4a  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 11:16:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2022 11:18:53 AM EDT
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