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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 12:35:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
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Posted: 10/20/2022 12:35:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: No kidding. do they still have the 40mm in service or have they disposed of them?. They would be perfect to set up around target cities and important Infrastructure Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Here's a big Twitter thread from Trent Telenko on air defense against Iranian drones: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1582823094766358529.html The TL;DR version: The cost of the missile systems being used to defend Ukraine from these drones is so much higher than the cost of the drones themselves that it's beneficial for the Russians and Iranians to keep pumping the drones into Ukrainian air space until something changes. The drones themselves are accurate and effective enough on target that they can't really be ignored, either. The solution he proposes is to position AA guns on the approaches to cities and key targets and to use missiles as a last line of defense. Sweden should donate as many Bofors 40mm as they can. Their 3P shells seem basically tailor made for drone swatting:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewaCdSW4ycNo kidding. do they still have the 40mm in service or have they disposed of them?. They would be perfect to set up around target cities and important Infrastructure The L70 has been the standard for decades, it's what everyone uses these days and it's the only one in production. The AC-130 is an odd duck in that it uses the old L60, and that's why parts and ammo is getting scarce. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 12:41:17 PM EDT
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Hmm released a missile could mean one fell off a spar
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Posted: 10/20/2022 12:49:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffg1MN2aYAA5gvK?format=jpg  Wooooooooooo! |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 12:59:15 PM EDT
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With the Su27 vs RJ incident, I can only see one option- WW3.
1) If it was an accident, then Russia now knows almost without a doubt that Western aircraft are at least two generations ahead of anything they have. Putin will go nuclear since it's his only leverage. 2) It was not an accident and Russia is trying to start WW3. They are going to continually escalate until NATO/West is provoked. For what reason, I can only imagine a global conspiracy since it's obvious they would be demolished and as a state, they have little to gain. Or it's coordinated with China to start WW3. Either way, not happy scenarios. Missiles don't just go off and launch themselves. It was either an order, or pilot error. Either way, doesn't really matter. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:00:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anono: With the Su27 vs RJ incident, I can only see one option- WW3. 1) If it was an accident, then Russia now knows almost without a doubt that Western aircraft are at least two generations ahead of anything they have. Putin will go nuclear since it's his only leverage. 2) It was not an accident and Russia is trying to start WW3. They are going to continually escalate until NATO/West is provoked. For what reason, I can only imagine a global conspiracy since it's obvious they would be demolished and as a state, they have little to gain. Or it's coordinated with China to start WW3. Either way, not happy scenarios. Missiles don't just go off and launch themselves. It was either an order, or pilot error. Either way, doesn't really matter. That's an interesting point. I'm sure their radio traffic has been analyzed by now. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Et2ss: The headline was no more 'blank check to Ukraine' if GOP captures House How does that translate to 'scale back'. To me that reads accountability That is good for both Ukraine and the US taxpayer. Stop whining Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Et2ss: Originally Posted By stgdz: Literally the lead of the republican party in the house is saying "we are going to scale back on Ukraine" and yet the Dems are the bad guys. The headline was no more 'blank check to Ukraine' if GOP captures House How does that translate to 'scale back'. To me that reads accountability That is good for both Ukraine and the US taxpayer. Stop whining Agreed. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:03:06 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for October 19th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-19 |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:04:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffahm52WQAIwF8W?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfahtdmWYAEXdIR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfahwdmXoAAOhM4?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 That is cool but unsettling at the same time. A few Bear bombers crashing into the Pacific wouldn't bother me one bit. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:08:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:08:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: That was Russia’s “first ones free” moment. Next one is going to cost them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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That was Russia’s “first ones free” moment. Next one is going to cost them. I've been amazed that the Brits have been flying over the Black Sea with their RC135s. We've been keeping ours over Poland and Romania according to ADS-B. I presumed the Brits must have had fighter escorts with theirs. I've been watching one of ours keeping an eye on Syria as well. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:08:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Seems Russian rule in Kherson is eroding.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: But why would it have anything to do with it? What’s the claim? Just that it crashed short of a runway? It’s just them saying “look! Even the super planes aren’t invincible” lol. One of the posts was that it was a birdstrike on an F-35 from the Netherlands. An awful lot of detail, and certainly relevant to European armament. It’s also probably entirely bullshit. Who knows. That’s why it’s here. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Billions of $$$ to expand infrastructure to handle more traffic, presuming the satellite links have enough additional capacity, at the moment, to handle a huge increase in ground up/down links. 400k subs now, at $100/mo on average means Starlink only generates about $500M/yr in direct revenue, while losing money on every dish it ships. And apparently there's $100M of unfunded free dishes and service going to Ukraine? Maybe if the UK agrees to build the Starlink ground links on their own dime? What does this have to do with the United Kingdom? |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:17:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:17:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By merick: So take heed county treasurer, school board, district attorney, and insurance commissioner want-a-be's. Ukraine victory is the only thing that matters.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By merick: Originally Posted By Capta: I promise I will be a single-issue voter this November for the first and probably only time in my life. Candidates should consider their position on Ukraine carefully. So take heed county treasurer, school board, district attorney, and insurance commissioner want-a-be's. Ukraine victory is the only thing that matters. Yeah: absolute statements like that usually lose their virtue when they're closely examined. Voting for a Democrat, who will spend 95% of his time damaging the US and 5% of his time helping Ukraine- just because a Republican says they want to scrutinize whatever percent of help we give Ukraine- seems unwise, overall. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:17:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I don't know shit about it either. Seems like a bunch of effort for something that might get done easier. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Yea, this isn't my area of experience but I put it out there for debate.  same here. Seems like a linear shaped charge wouldn't even been a blip on the richter scale |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:24:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: *Click* Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By merick: Originally Posted By Capta: Last time I checked country treasurers, school boards, district attorneys, and insurance commissioners didn’t control foreign policy. One issue!!1! Either they got a Ukraine flag on their social media or they're stooges for Pootin! *Click* He's just responding to the absolutist statement *YOU* made. Maybe you should consider clicking me. Or yourself. 
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:25:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: How about barrage balloons? At least in likely flight paths to cover some areas thin on AAA? beat But every Ukrainian kid should be flying large balloons on steel wires. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By GTLandser: If you were referring to 40mm Bofors guns, even the USAF had this problem more than 10 years ago; some AF procurement officer got an award because he managed to find some NOS 40mm barrels in arsenal storage in Greece--the AF was faced with finding old barrels for the AC-130 (whatever model) that had shot-out all of their 40mm barrels during GWOT. It is also part of the reason why the later models of AC-130 don't even have 40mm any more. That's a 5 line summary, there was more to it than that but you get the idea. As for the VADS...the electronics are more the issue than the hulls and guns, if in fact there are any sitting out in the desert at all. It would take a lot of money and time to get those things ready, to the point where I strongly suspect it would be better to find any in-service gun ADA system in NATO and trade those to Ukraine first. That is, if they had any to spare.  How about barrage balloons? At least in likely flight paths to cover some areas thin on AAA? beat But every Ukrainian kid should be flying large balloons on steel wires. i think they make some blimp drones. Had a friend who was contracted and went to the sandbox to work on them. Not sure of all their capabilities, but I wonder if something like that would work. If they had hellfires or something mounted on them. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:29:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:29:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GLHX2112]
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Guess I need to do some more research on how to properly link tweets. Drunk Russian soldier deserves better.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:32:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093:
Epic, in so many ways! Ukranians not only know how to kick some Russian ass, they know how to run a propaganda war. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:34:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dillydilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: That is cool but unsettling at the same time. A few Bear bombers crashing into the Pacific wouldn't bother me one bit. They’ve been doing this shit for years. Despite the current circumstances, this is nothing out of the ordinary. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGerman leadership really seems to be whoring out hard. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:36:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Illegible_Signature: I assumed they were using the ethnic region soldiers instead of actual Russians to hopefully avoid this, but looks like the trainwreck is coming. Unfortunately, not soon enough. They seem to be replacing their dead soldiers with kidnapped Ukrainian women and children though. This evacuation from Kherson for instance. Filtration camp and then a cattle car to the Far East. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Ok that's badass. Where's the freaking video?! |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:38:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Yeah: absolute statements like that usually lose their virtue when they're closely examined. Voting for a Democrat, who will spend 95% of his time damaging the US and 5% of his time helping Ukraine- just because a Republican says they want to scrutinize whatever percent of help we give Ukraine- seems unwise, overall. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:41:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: German leadership really seems to be whoring out hard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: German leadership really seems to be whoring out hard. I'm surprised he has lasted this long |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:43:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:43:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Yeah: absolute statements like that usually lose their virtue when they're closely examined. Voting for a Democrat, who will spend 95% of his time damaging the US and 5% of his time helping Ukraine- just because a Republican says they want to scrutinize whatever percent of help we give Ukraine- seems unwise, overall. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Originally Posted By merick: Originally Posted By Capta: I promise I will be a single-issue voter this November for the first and probably only time in my life. Candidates should consider their position on Ukraine carefully. So take heed county treasurer, school board, district attorney, and insurance commissioner want-a-be's. Ukraine victory is the only thing that matters. Yeah: absolute statements like that usually lose their virtue when they're closely examined. Voting for a Democrat, who will spend 95% of his time damaging the US and 5% of his time helping Ukraine- just because a Republican says they want to scrutinize whatever percent of help we give Ukraine- seems unwise, overall. Because the republicans have been the ONLY ONES voting against the aid packages while the Dems are lockstep in giving aid to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:45:15 PM EDT
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Hey almighty
Last page you had a hellfire ground launch post. What is the reason Ukraine has not been able to mount them to hinds or hips? Is it a targeting system specific for NATO helo's? |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:46:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Hey almighty Last page you had a hellfire ground launch post. What is the reason Ukraine has not been able to mount them to hinds or hips? Is it a targeting system specific for NATO helo's? Eastern block laser designator are in a different wave length band than NATO ones. On the ground you can just set up a tripod and designate, for an aircraft you will need some kind of stabilized mount |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:54:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Because the republicans have been the ONLY ONES voting against the aid packages while the Dems are lockstep in giving aid to Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Originally Posted By merick: Originally Posted By Capta: I promise I will be a single-issue voter this November for the first and probably only time in my life. Candidates should consider their position on Ukraine carefully. So take heed county treasurer, school board, district attorney, and insurance commissioner want-a-be's. Ukraine victory is the only thing that matters. Yeah: absolute statements like that usually lose their virtue when they're closely examined. Voting for a Democrat, who will spend 95% of his time damaging the US and 5% of his time helping Ukraine- just because a Republican says they want to scrutinize whatever percent of help we give Ukraine- seems unwise, overall. Because the republicans have been the ONLY ONES voting against the aid packages while the Dems are lockstep in giving aid to Ukraine. That should be an easy answer for just about any American, and if not you have to question their priorities. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:57:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: You'd vote for a gun banning, pro kid trans-ifying communist Democrat who puts #Ukraine on their Twitter over a pro 2nd Amendment, pro family American conservative who says they need more accountability over Ukrainian funding?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Originally Posted By Capta: I promise I will be a single-issue voter this November for the first and probably only time in my life. Candidates should consider their position on Ukraine carefully. You'd vote for a gun banning, pro kid trans-ifying communist Democrat who puts #Ukraine on their Twitter over a pro 2nd Amendment, pro family American conservative who says they need more accountability over Ukrainian funding? Well said...but brace yourself for a *click* response. 
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:59:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Hey almighty Last page you had a hellfire ground launch post. What is the reason Ukraine has not been able to mount them to hinds or hips? Is it a targeting system specific for NATO helo's? That could be part of the reason. R0N addressed it above, the system could need a specific laser designator, range is something like 8 to 11 kilometers. I'm guessing they had a compatible drone to lase a target at long range, or they use the one with the system. These aren't as small as regular ATGM setups.   |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 1:59:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:03:35 PM EDT
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The man from Pärnu (Estonia) who sent more than 30 cars to the war was awarded the Order of Ukraine
https://parnu.postimees.ee/7630785/sojatandrile-ule-30-auto-saatnud-parnumaalane-palvis-ukraina-ordeni Raimond Pärna, an entrepreneur operating in Tor municipality, who sent 35 SUVs, trucks and minibuses to the defenders of Ukraine to the Kharkiv area, was awarded an order for international cooperation from Ukraine. … After Pärn made an appeal at the beginning of the summer, in which they were asked to inform about all-terrain and other vehicles that could be sent to help the Ukrainians defending their homeland, 35 vehicles have gone from the parking lot of the Tor municipality company to Harkiv. The last two turned their noses towards the south yesterday morning, when the Ukrainians who were in the village here started driving home with them. Two more machines are waiting in the yard of the company in Sauga to collect a trailer full of cars. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:05:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:08:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:09:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:10:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:13:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:22:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Every ATGM in the Western world is getting a chance. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:22:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: What does this have to do with the United Kingdom? All of the service areas mentioned, affected by the cut undersea cable, are part of the UK. If they want starlink to replace their terrestrial infrastructure on short notice, they should probably kick in. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:29:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:46:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dillydilly]
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For those who understand Russian, this is a really good interview with a Russian soldier who recently surrendered.
 ??????? ? ?????? | @VolodymyrZolkin |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 2:48:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Seems Russian rule in Kherson is eroding.
Supplying semtex to local resistance and teaching them how to pack it in washing machines would make for some hilarious barge sinking videos in the future.... |
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