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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:19:56 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:21:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: I agree. Russians / FSB are master of deceptive, unethical, and shady practices. "Kompromat" - or compromising information - is one of the FSB's favorite weapons to coerce targets. The "kompromat" can be real, or fabricated. Imagine the FSB managed to locate a recording of Musk saying a racist word, or a comment that could be construed as racist? (he is, after all, born and raised in South Africa, so it's not implausible). Imagine the FSB fabricated the recording (does not matter either way), it would: - potentially sink Tesla's sales in the US and Europe, costing him billions. What if the FSB located (or fabricated) evidence of an affair by Musk? Point is: there are many ways the FSB could have gotten to Musk. I also find his recent comments quite odd, and implausible. But FSB blackmail? That makes sense. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By Yobro512: Please. What exact power does Russia have over elon musk. They've been enemies with spacex for 20 years and Spacex and musk has absolutely dunked on them over and over in the last 7 years. I am really curious as to why he tried to promote such a heavily Russian biased peace plan I agree. Russians / FSB are master of deceptive, unethical, and shady practices. "Kompromat" - or compromising information - is one of the FSB's favorite weapons to coerce targets. The "kompromat" can be real, or fabricated. Imagine the FSB managed to locate a recording of Musk saying a racist word, or a comment that could be construed as racist? (he is, after all, born and raised in South Africa, so it's not implausible). Imagine the FSB fabricated the recording (does not matter either way), it would: - potentially sink Tesla's sales in the US and Europe, costing him billions. What if the FSB located (or fabricated) evidence of an affair by Musk? Point is: there are many ways the FSB could have gotten to Musk. I also find his recent comments quite odd, and implausible. But FSB blackmail? That makes sense. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:22:16 PM EDT
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I made the mistake of reading a few “other” threads in GD. It’s kinda sad/embarrassing.
This thread is really the only reason I go here anymore |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:22:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: What does that even mean? Burning positions? Whatever commie is for “OPSEC violations” is my guess. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Attention mobik shoppers!
Now that they're apparently grabbing men off the streets (if not quite literally) in Moscow and St Petersburg, I guess we'll find out soon how strongly he really controls the populace. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:24:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Anybody listen to Joe Pags ? Was sitting outside listening to his show and he had an interview with Jeffrey Addicott. Anybody know if this Addicott is a legit guy ? He claimed the Ukrainian army has 100,000 dead, Russia is going to roll on the country in November once the Winter freeze is in, Zelensky and the entire Ukrainian .gov is more corrupt than the Russians, China or the US blew up the Nordstream pipeline and it's all about Taiwan getting invaded by China. Ukraine has run out of people to defend itself and Russia invaded with its national guard and the real take over is happening this Winter. Basically said Zelensky is a crook and is looking to cash out because everybody knows Ukraine is done and the MSM is covering up for what is really going on over there. I hope somebody here can find the interview and post it up, because for me it was a big 'WTF am I listening too ?' JFC ! Pags is another low info conservatard Tucker Carlson ass kisser. The same way the crackpot paytriot right talk show hosts kiss Alex Jones' ass and spreads his bullshit to move up in the internet "independent news" world, Pags does the same with Cucker. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:25:14 PM EDT
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i've lurked here for years, finally made an account just to point out how obvious (or oblivious) some of you are. hope you're paid well.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:26:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:29:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Photographic: I made the mistake of reading a few “other” threads in GD. It’s kinda sad/embarrassing. This thread is really the only reason I go here anymore I actually quit this place for probably two years, but came back because I knew there would be a Ukraine thread just like this one. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Himars4days: i've lurked here for years, finally made an account just to point out how obvious (or oblivious) some of you are. hope you're paid well. Alexi Joneskov's shortwave broadcast starts in 30 minutes. Shouldn't you be getting your tinfoil hat on and be tuning in? |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:29:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:30:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfDxLh5WYAAOz8W?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Pretty spry for dead fellas. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:32:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Alexi Joneskov's shortwave broadcast starts in 30 minutes. Shouldn't you be getting your tinfoil hat on and be tuning in? The username made me read that the other way, but who knows… |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:32:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Himars4days: i've lurked here for years, finally made an account just to point out how obvious (or oblivious) some of you are. hope you're paid well. This war is fucking with my income. Are you hiring? What are the benefits. Welcome to the site HIMARS! 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Alexi Joneskov's shortwave broadcast starts in 30 minutes. Shouldn't you be getting your tinfoil hat on and be tuning in? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Himars4days: i've lurked here for years, finally made an account just to point out how obvious (or oblivious) some of you are. hope you're paid well. Alexi Joneskov's shortwave broadcast starts in 30 minutes. Shouldn't you be getting your tinfoil hat on and be tuning in? 4840 is the frequency, Kenneth. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:37:19 PM EDT
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What has Ukraine been doing for the last 8 years?
Why does the rest of the world (mainly us) have to supply them with so many weapons and munitions? I get that they don't have some of the more advanced stuff, but they don't have the ability to arm themselves with small arms and ammunition? |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Himars4days: i've lurked here for years, finally made an account just to point out how obvious (or oblivious) some of you are. hope you're paid well.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:39:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: To be clear, you're worried about the quality of information In the GD Russia/UKR thread? Stable door status: closed This thread has been a one-note shitshow since February, where gatekeeping Ukiebros only want to hear one point of view. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By absael: Where do you find this stuff? This is your second post today of comically bad information. I'm kind of hoping that no one posts it; at least not in this thread... IMO we don't need to dilute news and worthwhile thoughts on the war with this kind of crap. Witless opinions like his are a dime a dozen. To be clear, you're worried about the quality of information In the GD Russia/UKR thread? Stable door status: closed This thread has been a one-note shitshow since February, where gatekeeping Ukiebros only want to hear one point of view. You’re free to peddle your “Ukrainian Nazi kill list of Children” nonsense…. But when someone calls you a literal dumb ass and you storm off that isn’t “gatekeeping”. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Photographic: I made the mistake of reading a few "other" threads in GD. It's kinda sad/embarrassing. This thread is really the only reason I go here anymore |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:43:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Alexi Joneskov's shortwave broadcast starts in 30 minutes. Shouldn't you be getting your tinfoil hat on and be tuning in? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Himars4days: i've lurked here for years, finally made an account just to point out how obvious (or oblivious) some of you are. hope you're paid well. Alexi Joneskov's shortwave broadcast starts in 30 minutes. Shouldn't you be getting your tinfoil hat on and be tuning in? |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:44:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:46:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ratchet27: What has Ukraine been doing for the last 8 years? Why does the rest of the world (mainly us) have to supply them with so many weapons and munitions? I get that they don't have some of the more advanced stuff, but they don't have the ability to arm themselves with small arms and ammunition? They’ve been training and getting more advanced weapons. It just wasn’t enough, just like how the Ukraine Russia war has used a significant amount of the USA’s stockpile and it’s not a world war. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Yeah, provide credible sources. How dare we want some credibility.  If it's such a shit show, you know where the door is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By absael: Where do you find this stuff? This is your second post today of comically bad information. I'm kind of hoping that no one posts it; at least not in this thread... IMO we don't need to dilute news and worthwhile thoughts on the war with this kind of crap. Witless opinions like his are a dime a dozen. To be clear, you're worried about the quality of information In the GD Russia/UKR thread? Stable door status: closed This thread has been a one-note shitshow since February, where gatekeeping Ukiebros only want to hear one point of view. Yeah, provide credible sources. How dare we want some credibility. If it's such a shit show, you know where the door is. It seems like today there has been an influx of people who want to come in and take a dump on the dining room table and act surprised when they get called out on it. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:46:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Fucking animals. People complaining about Russians getting dehumanized need to see this shit. Their behavior is what's dehumanized them. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:49:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: I actually quit this place for probably two years, but came back because I knew there would be a Ukraine thread just like this one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By Photographic: I made the mistake of reading a few “other” threads in GD. It’s kinda sad/embarrassing. This thread is really the only reason I go here anymore I actually quit this place for probably two years, but came back because I knew there would be a Ukraine thread just like this one. The news on major events, and the speed at which new things come out is pretty amazing- aside from wading through obvious BS. It takes 3-4 days to start seeing things I read here become available on other news outlets. If it wasn’t for that, I’d have permanently quit a long time ago. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:51:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ratchet27: What has Ukraine been doing for the last 8 years? Why does the rest of the world (mainly us) have to supply them with so many weapons and munitions? I get that they don't have some of the more advanced stuff, but they don't have the ability to arm themselves with small arms and ammunition? As I understand it, Obama arm twisted them into destroying most of their stocks. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:53:57 PM EDT
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Mud.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:54:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jman1984: Sounds like people really believe that Ukraine put Musk on a hit list. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jman1984: Originally Posted By Photographic: I made the mistake of reading a few "other" threads in GD. It's kinda sad/embarrassing. This thread is really the only reason I go here anymore It ranks up there with some of the dumber shit I’ve seen posted about other topics. But, I guess the kill list is the flavor of the weekend. Globohomo and bio labs are so blasé and stale at this point |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:57:15 PM EDT
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In Irkutsk, at school No. 14, a Z-banner was posted with a map of Russia with annexed Belarus.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:57:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jman1984: Judging by the username I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he is talking about the Russian bots. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jman1984: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Himars4days: i've lurked here for years, finally made an account just to point out how obvious (or oblivious) some of you are. hope you're paid well. Alexi Joneskov's shortwave broadcast starts in 30 minutes. Shouldn't you be getting your tinfoil hat on and be tuning in? Well, if that's the case he should have been more clear. ARFCOM is a mess on Ukraine outside of this thread and the pro-Russian "conservatives" on the other threads constantly trash this one. I figured this was a new guy taking a shot. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 9:59:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jman1984: Sounds like people really believe that Ukraine put Musk on a hit list. To me no I don't think Ukraine has an official government "hit list". That site is not exactly good for the perception of the Ukranian side however. Even this doesn't matter, every side has extremes, but it's no secret Ukraine had been having some... poor diplomatic incidents in their recent handling of Musk. That's the story to me, like him or not it probably doesn't do you any favors to piss off the guy supplying you with Starlink. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:00:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ratchet27: What has Ukraine been doing for the last 8 years? Why does the rest of the world (mainly us) have to supply them with so many weapons and munitions? I get that they don't have some of the more advanced stuff, but they don't have the ability to arm themselves with small arms and ammunition? Russia's military is one of the largest in the world, even after staggering losses. Ukraine hasn't been able to afford the latest stuff and have been fighting a war against Russian backed separatists for years. A lot of their stocks were stolen or destroyed by the fighting over that time frame. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:01:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:  Let it be so. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/B160A576-2109-4F80-9AC7-AC6E9AA85D20-2563221.jpg Funny, they even misspelled “Берлин”! Kinda explains why they suck so much as a fighting force. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:01:11 PM EDT
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OSINT in the first person. Ukraine’s armed forces have outsourced parts of the kill chain to civilians.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:03:21 PM EDT
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Critical infrastructure hit in Belgorod.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker: As I understand it, Obama arm twisted them into destroying most of their stocks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker: Originally Posted By Ratchet27: What has Ukraine been doing for the last 8 years? Why does the rest of the world (mainly us) have to supply them with so many weapons and munitions? I get that they don't have some of the more advanced stuff, but they don't have the ability to arm themselves with small arms and ammunition? As I understand it, Obama arm twisted them into destroying most of their stocks. True. I detailed this months ago. Before Obama became president, then Sen. Obama traveled to Ukraine with Moscow frequent flyer RINO Sen. Dick Lugar and bribed them to get rid of millions of surplus small arms and billions of rounds of ammunition. This was a Kremlin directive for years and part of a plan that Yanukovych implemented when he and Paul Manafort "won" the election from pro- USA Ukrainian president Yuschenko. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:05:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Well, if that's the case he should have been more clear. ARFCOM is a mess on Ukraine outside of this thread and the pro-Russian "conservatives" on the other threads constantly trash this one. I figured this was a new guy taking a shot. You're the only one who took it that way, good job trolling a new guy on his first post cause he wasn't enthusiastic enough in being anti Russian. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:05:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Anybody listen to Joe Pags ? Was sitting outside listening to his show and he had an interview with Jeffrey Addicott. Anybody know if this Addicott is a legit guy ? He claimed the Ukrainian army has 100,000 dead, Russia is going to roll on the country in November once the Winter freeze is in, Zelensky and the entire Ukrainian .gov is more corrupt than the Russians, China or the US blew up the Nordstream pipeline and it's all about Taiwan getting invaded by China. Ukraine has run out of people to defend itself and Russia invaded with its national guard and the real take over is happening this Winter. Basically said Zelensky is a crook and is looking to cash out because everybody knows Ukraine is done and the MSM is covering up for what is really going on over there. I hope somebody here can find the interview and post it up, because for me it was a big 'WTF am I listening too ?' JFC ! Anything is possible, but I'm calling Bullshit! If the VDV and the 1st Guards Tank Army got decimated (or more) by a force that was 70% undertrained/underequipped reservists, I cannot imagine that a bunch of underequipped Orc draftees with two weeks or less of training are going to magically do better against a much better-equipped and motivated force led by hardened combat veterans: where even the Uke FNG's with no military background had more pub/Gasthaus/Bar time during intensive training regimes lasting multiple weeks in the UK, Germany, and Poland than the mobniks have in total effective military training, and using really old equipment, are going to do that well. As an example, in the Korean Conflict, the total Chinese number of dead/DOW was somewhere north of 1million Chinese soldiers: in addition to well over 1million North Korean combat deaths. In contrast the "UN" forces (including ROK soldiers) combat deaths (including ROK) after the Chinese intervention were somewhere in the neighborhood of 259,000. And this was with both sides using mostly WWII-era tech, with combat-experienced leadership on both sides.. Trying the "Chinese Liberation" model against a motivated and seasoned enemy with modern tech will have the same outcome as a WWII Japanese Banzai charge, except with nowhere near the initial effectiveness. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:05:57 PM EDT
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Run or die.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:06:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: To be clear, you're worried about the quality of information In the GD Russia/UKR thread? Stable door status: closed This thread has been a one-note shitshow since February, where gatekeeping Ukiebros only want to hear one point of view. Dude, if your username phonetically references your ancestry, your only beef with anyone Ukrainian or a Ukiefan should be over the border in the Carpathians - and that was set by the Russians and a Democratic administration, not a bunch or Ukrainian nationalists. Go read of some of Jozki's family history stuff and then think if the Russians have been able to reform themselves in the last 70 years. The answer to that is no. And that was communism's second go at Hungary. To be clear, I am here to see recent status updates, and this is way better than the media on either the right or left. For everyone else, my apologies for any contribution to thread drift. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:06:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Will GD be along shortly to say that she’s a deep state plant and they “don’t care”? |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:07:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ratchet27: What has Ukraine been doing for the last 8 years? Why does the rest of the world (mainly us) have to supply them with so many weapons and munitions? I get that they don't have some of the more advanced stuff, but they don't have the ability to arm themselves with small arms and ammunition?   Why Ukraine Special Ops Use This Bullpup. The Malyuk. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: To be clear, you're worried about the quality of information In the GD Russia/UKR thread? Stable door status: closed This thread has been a one-note shitshow since February, where gatekeeping Ukiebros only want to hear one point of view. Retarded people spouting nonsense is not an opposing viewpoint. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Whatever commie is for “OPSEC violations” is my guess. This is correct. Autotranslate doesn't handle slang expressions well. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:14:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Fucking animals. People complaining about Russians getting dehumanized need to see this shit. Their behavior is what's dehumanized them. And they've been doing it for centuries. For one small example, look up "holodomor". People call Hitler a mass murderer, but he's small potatoes compared to the Russians. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:14:49 PM EDT
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Some kind of artillery impact purportedly in Bakhmut.
Tight group, I’m assuming a western system?
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:15:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: In Irkutsk, at school No. 14, a Z-banner was posted with a map of Russia with annexed Belarus. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/57CD8E5D-ABFE-493C-8BDD-669DD83C190C-2563276.jpg https://t.me/groupzarya/19392 Freudian slip? It pretty much is save for the formalities? |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:15:04 PM EDT
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More dope on background. Good read.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 10:17:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex9661: This is correct. Autotranslate doesn't handle slang expressions well. Thank you sir, and may I reiterate you translators are invaluable. |
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