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Posted: 10/8/2021 1:05:55 AM EDT
If anyone here has ever been entertained, enlightened or just appreciates what Dugan Ashley has done, watch this video.

Link Posted: 10/8/2021 1:31:14 AM EDT
[#1]
Dude has made me laugh so hard - keep fighting, I hope someone who knows MS can help medically.
I found this  https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-dugan-ashley-with-multiple-sclerosis-expenses

He's 35 years old damn.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 1:35:36 AM EDT
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I would think he could have a VA advocate step in and get him to a facility that could nail this down. I do not have expertise in this. I just use the VA myself. I think we have members who are advocates or work for service orginizations and I hope they see this.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 1:39:25 AM EDT
[#3]
Poor guy.

I wouldn’t wish that on anyone
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 1:41:00 AM EDT
[#4]
BUMP.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 1:47:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/8/2021 1:52:56 AM EDT
[#6]
I was wondering about him over that last couple of weeks. Damn hard video to watch. Funds and prayers sent. Thanks for all the laughs Doug, Best wishes.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:02:51 AM EDT
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@DocBach if you're still around.

I also emailed Jonathan (Dugan) with some resources.  No idea if he'll qualify, but it's a direction to check.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:06:48 AM EDT
[#8]
Good Lord. Sending funds.

Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:09:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Great American. I'll help with what I can to help him spend as much time as he can with his kids.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:09:53 AM EDT
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Does the VA not refer patients to specialists outside of the system?

I came down with a case of vertigo for a few days and it was absolutely miserable. I couldn't even sit up in bed. Dealing with that alone, everyday
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:15:05 AM EDT
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I came down with a case of vertigo for a few days and it was absolutely miserable. I couldn't even sit up in bed. Dealing with that alone, everyday
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depends on the doctor, and place. but ive watched the VA neglect people to death.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:15:36 AM EDT
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When Dugan disappeared and then came back briefly, I heard he was suffering.  But seeing him like that and with only VA to rely on.  Damn, that is harsh.  Donated.

Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:33:09 AM EDT
[#13]
bumping and subscribing.

His videos were comic genius, and it's really sad that he is suffering.

What unfinished project was he talking about, CL-20? He was developing some kind of tannerite for commercial sale?
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:39:25 AM EDT
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bumping and subscribing.

His videos were comic genius, and it's really sad that he is suffering.

What unfinished project was he talking about, CL-20? He was developing some kind of tannerite for commercial sale?
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And donated; the number to beat to be a top donor now is anything >$180, according to the page.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:45:54 AM EDT
[#15]
Horrible. He can go to an outside specialist on the VA dime. I hope that his family can figure that out.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:47:16 AM EDT
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A veteran neighbor of mine went through the same bs ms stuff with the VA Dugan is.

I have no comments that would allow me to be a site member any longer.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:47:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:54:59 AM EDT
[#18]
Bump
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 2:58:27 AM EDT
[#19]
Damn, a loss for words. Really makes a fella think. We need to try and keep this near the top gents.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 3:24:48 AM EDT
[#20]
damn.  I loved watching his videos back in the day. so sad.  
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 3:24:58 AM EDT
[#21]
double
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 3:34:56 AM EDT
[#22]
Is that the legit go fund me?  Just want to make sure before I hit the button.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 7:44:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Bump for the day crew.

Guys we can do better than this.

I also suggest a slight title edit, some people may not know who Dugan Ashley is, but they will know CARNIKON.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 7:47:10 AM EDT
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Yeah, also interested in whether or not this GFM is legit. Can’t help but feel terrible for the guy, just goes to show how quickly life can turn to shit.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 7:55:19 AM EDT
[#25]
I still love you Dugan
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:03:29 AM EDT
[#26]
Thanks for posting this OP.

Love you Dugan.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:03:53 AM EDT
[#27]
Thats why you have to love the time on earth you have while you have it.  Maybe the he stressed himself too much with all the worry about the state of the country.  I wish him well, he was a funny ass dude back in the day.

Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:10:26 AM EDT
[#28]
I don't know if anyone else has dealt with MS either personally or through loved ones, but W.N.P Barbellion's story is worth a read, or if not his entire book/diary, just read about how he came to learn his diagnosis, and started writing intending for publication.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:13:24 AM EDT
[#29]
Damn
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:32:46 AM EDT
[#30]
MS is fuckin scary. My Aunt has it, but has learned over the years how to keep her symptoms under control.

Cognitive decline is definitely something that scares the shit outta me, but I hope he gets a little bit of relief soon.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:34:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:35:31 AM EDT
[#32]
All of you guys are awesome. WRT the go fund me, i don’t know the legitimacy. I emailed Dugan to find out the best Avenue for financial support, if he’s even open to that option.

Bump and let’s keep this one on page one!
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:36:34 AM EDT
[#33]
This is so fucked up.

Such an amazingly talented guy.

Fuck ms.

In for whatever I can do to help.

Weed apparently really helps my FIL with MS. Helps with the side effects of medication at least.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:38:12 AM EDT
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Yeah, also interested in whether or not this GFM is legit. Can’t help but feel terrible for the guy, just goes to show how quickly life can turn to shit.
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Yeah, also interested in whether or not this GFM is legit. Can’t help but feel terrible for the guy, just goes to show how quickly life can turn to shit.


The guys is a comedy genius so hard to watch him like that.

I’d be up for a few bucks for this
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:47:13 AM EDT
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bumping and subscribing.

His videos were comic genius, and it's really sad that he is suffering.

What unfinished project was he talking about, CL-20? He was developing some kind of tannerite for commercial sale?
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No. Think DIY/commonly available materials. Think about the trajectory this country is on.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:51:00 AM EDT
[#36]
Whose our VA expert here that I've seen post before?
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:53:50 AM EDT
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A veteran neighbor of mine went through the same bs ms stuff with the VA Dugan is.

I have no comments that would allow me to be a site member any longer.
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A veteran neighbor of mine went through the same bs ms stuff with the VA Dugan is.

I have no comments that would allow me to be a site member any longer.



FYI…

People with multiple sclerosis can qualify for Medicare coverage before age 65 if Social Security determines that they are permanently disabled and they have received Social Security disability benefits for 24 months. People with MS will also be eligible for Medicare when they reach age 65 if they receive Social Security or Railroad Retirement benefits. Individuals who retire early, and decide to receive Social Security retirement benefits at age 62, must still wait until they are 65 to receive Medicare.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:53:58 AM EDT
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Damn.  I don't know any specialists but damn.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:55:31 AM EDT
[#39]
I am talking with my father in law now. He has considerable experience with ms treatments.

Trying to figure out if there is someone we can direct him to.

Hard to tell what he’s saying. Can someone pm me his email address?
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:56:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Bump, that is horrible, the VA is terrible organization.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:56:22 AM EDT
[#41]
Tough watch, donation given.

I've MS myself for about 15 years now, very thankfully I have had a very mild case, no new lesions in over a decade and I am more or less fine right now with the medication I am on. Looks like he has had a really bad case to be in that rough of shape after a little over a decade.


Staff please make this a pinned thread if possible
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 8:59:52 AM EDT
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Trying to figure out if there is someone we can direct him to.

Hard to tell what he’s saying. Can someone pm me his email address?
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It’s in the description of the video

[email protected]
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:00:57 AM EDT
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God bless him.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:01:24 AM EDT
[#44]
If he has the relapsing remitting form of MS (which I think he said he did?), then he can still live out the rest of his life. Now I'm not saying every day is easy, but it doesn't need to be the end.

My uncle has Progressive MS (the worse of the two evils), and while he's certainly not able to get around as well as he did 15 years ago, he's still alive and in fact is going on a cruise next week. He has bad days, but also has good days.

My aunt's boyfriend also has MS and is in a wheelchair, but the dude wakes up every day with a smile and lives life to the fullest extend he's able to.

Obviously, not everyone's case is the same, but MS isn't a death sentence.

Attitude is a huge part of it. That seems to be the hardest part of the battle from what I've seen.

Everyone is different of course.

I do think Dugan should take care of his emotional state as much as his physical one. I hope he gets the help he needs - not just for his vertigo and cognitive issues, but his emotional state of mind as well.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:03:16 AM EDT
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Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:06:20 AM EDT
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Good guy.  Bump.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:17:45 AM EDT
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No. Think DIY/commonly available materials. Think about the trajectory this country is on.
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bumping and subscribing.

His videos were comic genius, and it's really sad that he is suffering.

What unfinished project was he talking about, CL-20? He was developing some kind of tannerite for commercial sale?


No. Think DIY/commonly available materials. Think about the trajectory this country is on.

CL-20 is a secondary high explosive with a det velocity faster than RDX and HMX.  It is also much more impact sensitive than HMX and RDX which is why we don't use it.  It is credited as being developed at China Lake, hence the CL and is one of the last things I would recommend DIYers experiment with at home.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:21:46 AM EDT
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CL-20 is a secondary high explosive with a det velocity faster than RDX and HMX.  It is also much more impact sensitive than HMX and RDX which is why we don't use it.  It is credited as being developed at China Lake, hence the CL and is one of the last things I would recommend DIYers experiment with at home.
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bumping and subscribing.

His videos were comic genius, and it's really sad that he is suffering.

What unfinished project was he talking about, CL-20? He was developing some kind of tannerite for commercial sale?


No. Think DIY/commonly available materials. Think about the trajectory this country is on.

CL-20 is a secondary high explosive with a det velocity faster than RDX and HMX.  It is also much more impact sensitive than HMX and RDX which is why we don't use it.  It is credited as being developed at China Lake, hence the CL and is one of the last things I would recommend DIYers experiment with at home.


I’m not going to argue with you. I’d link to the relevant video, but it was on DLive and he nuked all of those videos. I’m also not saying he was going to do a DIY on that exact compound. He was researching different things.

ETA: He just wanted to teach people how to make demo because the knowledge could be useful during tyrannical times. There was no financial incentive.
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:23:15 AM EDT
[#49]
Damn I didnt know

Thats awful

That dudes hilarious
Link Posted: 10/8/2021 9:37:20 AM EDT
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Hold an AK is genius level entertainment. Dugan will get a donation from myself.
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