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Posted: 9/18/2021 4:58:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2021 4:59:19 PM EDT
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Yep orders are shut off and it’s all 2-3k over.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:00:23 PM EDT
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Fuck Chyna.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:00:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:00:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm being told, nothing can be ordered. Any new car on the lot is 2k to 3k over MSRP. In fact, I know a gentleman who just bought a 21 GMC crew cab 4x4 for very slightly under MSRP-factory incentives, at a dealership about an hour from me. Had one for a similar deal even closer to us, but he thought about it too long and it was sold before he decided to get it |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:01:42 PM EDT
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Poor people buy new cars
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:02:04 PM EDT
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That's the deal homie
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:02:46 PM EDT
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I ordered a Mustang (the car not SUV) beginning of August, should have it by end of Oct. with 2k off MSRP.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:03:40 PM EDT
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Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. I caved and paid because we needed to replace a car ASAP. I felt abused.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:05:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:06:43 PM EDT
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My brother in law just put a deposit on a 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium due to be here the first week of October. He originally wanted a TRD Pro but they're not taking orders for that model.
No negotiation and he paid MSRP. Used car prices are insane so it's better to go the new car route in this day and age. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it I think its bullshit too, Im willing to wait for an ordered car with my choice of color and trim level, its a sold unit with no cost to the dealer, profit some but dont rape me. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think its bullshit too, Im willing to wait for an ordered car with my choice of color and trim level, its a sold unit with no cost to the dealer, profit some but dont rape me. What car? |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:09:37 PM EDT
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Your dealer sucks, find a new one.
What are you trying to order/buy? |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:10:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it Agreed! dealerships are just taking advantage of people |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:12:12 PM EDT
[#16]
You can order a F150.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:12:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed! dealerships are just taking advantage of people It sucks though. It's also going to get worse before it gets better, especially if evergrande collapses on top of everything else. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:15:35 PM EDT
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Bored, we just spec’d out a new truck to order.
MSRP. The edmunds target price is a hair above MSRP. Same truck a few years ago was invoice plus a hair. Including incentives a similar truck today is 10k more. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:17:51 PM EDT
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How long were you in a coma?
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:18:51 PM EDT
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Welcome to the supply chain
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Supply and demand. They can charge over MSRP, because if you don't buy it, the next guy in line will. It sucks though. It's also going to get worse before it gets better, especially if evergrande collapses on top of everything else. This is true, the dealers around me selling trucks at MSRP, it’s rare a truck sits on their lot a week. A coworker was trying to buy a GMC truck with the AT4 package in early summer and 2 times (with different dealers) had a deal made on trucks in transit to the dealership from the manufacturer just waiting on the truck to come in to sign paperwork and pick it up. Both times there was someone on the lot when the trucks were unloaded and they bought it on the spot. Second time he had even offered to put a deposit on the truck, explaining to the salesman what happened at the first dealership, salesman assured him there was no need, he’d make sure the truck was marked sold in their system. Truck came in and was unloaded on a Sunday, when that salesman was off… The dealers charging 2-5k over MSRP, are sitting on them a little longer, but the upside is they have more than 2-4 new trucks on the lot, and because of that get more traffic… |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:19:48 PM EDT
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Just bought a Tacoma SR for msrp and a decent trade in allowance. Msrp is pretty standard for Tacoma’s, at least in this area. Truck will be in sometime next week.
I think I looked at every new and used Taco in Iowa. Paid a bit more than I wanted to but these damn things just don’t depreciate. I ran across 2011 SR with 267,000 miles on it and they were asking $15k and I suspect they’ll get it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:20:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:21:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Look nationwide, then fly and buy.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it Lol! You living under a rock? Most auto manufacturers have shutdown plants for weeks at a time due to chip shortage. They can’t build cars. The manufacturers would LOVE to sell more cars. But they can’t, because they can’t make them. The chip shortage will last thru all of next CY. I have multi million projects with Cisco and lead times are now 6-8 months. Supply/demand. How do it work? |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:25:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. I caved and paid because we needed to replace a car ASAP. I felt abused. On this doll show us where the bad man touched you?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:31:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed! dealerships are just taking advantage of people Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it Agreed! dealerships are just taking advantage of people I don’t sell cars, but I was selling new boats. Why in the fuck would a dealership drop the price if they don’t have to? Don’t want to pay the price? Fine by me. I’ll sell it in 20 min to the next person that walks in the door. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:32:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it So do they hide all their inventory at another location so customers can't see it? |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:32:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it So do they hide all their inventory at another location so customers can't see it? |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:33:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t sell cars, but I was selling new boats. Why in the fuck would a dealership drop the price if they don’t have to? Don’t want to pay the price? Fine by me. I’ll sell it in 20 min to the next person that walks in the door. So, you admit you are taking advantage of your loyal customers because you can. Thank you for your confession |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:36:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Had my truck serviced yesterday at the dealership, I asked where all the new vehicles were, he told me they may have one.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:... you’re at the wrong dealership. Pretty much anything can be ordered... Maybe not, this is the time of year that new models are announced and the assembly line is switching over. There are black out periods for ordering new cars. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:38:33 PM EDT
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New jeep wranglers are able to order for 5-8% under invoice at some dealers.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:39:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, you admit you are taking advantage of your loyal customers because you can. Thank you for your confession Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t sell cars, but I was selling new boats. Why in the fuck would a dealership drop the price if they don’t have to? Don’t want to pay the price? Fine by me. I’ll sell it in 20 min to the next person that walks in the door. So, you admit you are taking advantage of your loyal customers because you can. Thank you for your confession Lol. Yeah, let me give you a hell of a deal on this new boat that’s in high demand while we can’t get anymore product for months/year. That’s real smart business! |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:41:59 PM EDT
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welcome to 2 years ago OP.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poor people buy new cars Yep. According to my driveway I'm Howard fucking Hughes 
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:43:53 PM EDT
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It would help if the OP at least told us what brand he's looking at
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:46:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So do they hide all their inventory at another location so customers can't see it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Went to pick out a new Toyota Highlander for the wife in June. Zero negotiation on price. Was told sticker or above is the norm due to low inventory. Ya that’s all fake as fuck. They are doing it because they can get away with it So do they hide all their inventory at another location so customers can't see it? on my way to an airport i drive by what used to be a dirt field that now has what looks like 1000 new cars on it. i no idea what it is, who owns it, or why the cars are there. why so many of what look like brand new cars are sitting in a dirt lot in the middle of no where seems like a fairly valid question. my buddy thinks they're over filled at production plants and the cars can be driven but not yet fully done so they take them there, when the parts come in take them back, finish them, then give them to dealers. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:47:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your dealer sucks, find a new one. What are you trying to order/buy? 2022 Nissan Pathfinder |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:54:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:55:33 PM EDT
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I had visited 6 dealerships. All but one virtually laughed in my face regarding not paying the market adjustment fee. They have sold 7 suvs, and the sales manager flat told me all of those sold for 7k over sticker. Their market adjustment fee was 10k.
It literally was like a lightswitch when i mentioned I wasnt paying MSRP. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:57:40 PM EDT
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My cousin just drove to Kentucky from St. Louis to buy his wife a Korean SUV at MSRP. Any dealer around her was at least $5k over.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 5:59:25 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted: I'm being told, nothing can be ordered. Any new car on the lot is 2k to 3k over MSRP. People don’t think the fascist Biden economy be like it is, but it is. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 6:00:01 PM EDT
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In this thread supply/demand will be learned.
Not ammo supply/demand has been going on for years and somehow this is a new thing. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 6:00:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, you admit you are taking advantage of your loyal customers because you can. Thank you for your confession Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t sell cars, but I was selling new boats. Why in the fuck would a dealership drop the price if they don’t have to? Don’t want to pay the price? Fine by me. I’ll sell it in 20 min to the next person that walks in the door. So, you admit you are taking advantage of your loyal customers because you can. Thank you for your confession Loyal customers? 
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Posted: 9/18/2021 6:00:55 PM EDT
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If the car manufacturers are all doing like Ford with their trucks and are making them and parking them awaiting “chips” the market will be flooded with new cars in the not to distant future. Hold on to your current car for now.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 6:03:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My brother in law just put a deposit on a 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium due to be here the first week of October. He originally wanted a TRD Pro but they're not taking orders for that model. No negotiation and he paid MSRP. Used car prices are insane so it's better to go the new car route in this day and age. I’ve been looking for this exact vehicle and all the dealers around say minimum $5k above msrp. They can choke on it and I’ll keep driving my Nissan Pathfinder with 230k miles on it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 6:03:54 PM EDT
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Go to a different dealer OP. You can certainly order a car. I'd do it today. There are 3-6 months of orders already in front of you. You should get yours early next year.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 6:04:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the car manufacturers are all doing like Ford with their trucks and are making them and parking them awaiting “chips” the market will be flooded with new cars in the not to distant future. Hold on to your current car for now. Negative. The chip shortage will at least last all CY 2022. Likely into half CY 2023. It’s a double crunch. Demand spike up, supply spike down. What the fuck do you think that does to price? |
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Posted: 9/18/2021 6:04:36 PM EDT
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FPNI again
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