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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:53:42 PM EDT
Found info for a registered brand for my grandfather's farm in Colorado dated 1931 is there any way to find address of farm associated with the brand registration? I have been trying to find info on old family farm.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:57:49 PM EDT
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https://ag.colorado.gov/brands
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Posted: 7/22/2021 10:44:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/22/2021 10:44:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://ag.colorado.gov/brands https://ag.colorado.gov/brands You might be able to find this book -  I'll bet you'll need to dig through the county plat books, but that is narrowed since you know to look around Brighton and have a date. https://data-adcogov.opendata.arcgis.com/ This page has tax records for 1931. I couldn't open the document on my phone, so it might include records in sales only. Still worth a look - https://apps.adcogov.org/TreasurersHistoricalDocuments/Documents.aspx The current brand book for Colorado only includes brands with up to date assessment and taxes. . |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 10:57:24 PM EDT
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Old deed records from Adams county is about the only way. Brands were tied to the name and land,etc. Not the other way around. Address' etc. easily shifted around.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 11:02:12 PM EDT
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In Texas, the county keeps brand registration books. The pages I photographed from my county's book have mailing addresses - but good luck getting those translated into modern street address. Most are either PO boxes or box numbers on the mail route. At best, you might get a road number, but then you are back to a box number on that road. Rural street addresses really did not become a thing until the 991 mandates - and that was probably in the 1990's.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 11:44:16 PM EDT
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How do you read that brand?
Seven H Bar? |
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Posted: 7/23/2021 12:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The current brand book for Colorado only includes brands with up to date assessment and taxes. . |
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Posted: 7/23/2021 1:04:10 PM EDT
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Brands are not explicitly tied to locations (beyond a mailing address) since then and now a rancher may have cattle in multiple locations, which may change depending on season or other factors.
You're going to have much better luck working through the county via deeds or plat maps. |
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Posted: 7/23/2021 6:47:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you read that brand? Seven H Bar? Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you read that brand? Seven H Bar? I always wondered about the naming conventions. Bar this, Circle that... This post caused me to do a bit of googling... "Brands are read from left to right, from the top down or from the outside to the inside. If a letter or symbol is made backwards from its normal position, it's read as a reverse. A letter partially over on its face or back is said to be tumbling. If a letter lies horizontally on its face or back, it is called lazy." "The "Bar" in a ranch name, most often indicates that they have registered quarter horses with bloodlines tracing back to the legendary stallion named Three Bars." Animal welfare concerns Both hot and freeze branding produces thermal injury to the skin, but hot-iron branding creates more inflammation and pain than does freeze branding. Although alternative methods of identification such as ear tags are suggested, the practice is still common worldwide. |
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Posted: 7/23/2021 8:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old deed records from Adams county is about the only way. Brands were tied to the name and land,etc. Not the other way around. Address' etc. easily shifted around. Seems to me to be a fairly daunting task to show up with just a name and a general year to find a name on a deed for property. But would be worth a shot just for entertainment value. |
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Posted: 7/23/2021 8:02:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well thats unfortunate, I had hoped there would some sort of master historical record. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The current brand book for Colorado only includes brands with up to date assessment and taxes. . There probably is a record of the brands for each year. The brand registration has the book and page, so call someone at the state ag office and beg for help, finding the book will take the most time. You'll find the location quicker by scanning the old plat books at the courthouse. Literally scan the maps on each page in the Brighton region. The old address might have changed, especially in the Denver metro region. The brand could have been transferred later, too. A typical plat -  There is also an image of one on the book cover above. . |
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Posted: 7/23/2021 8:08:34 PM EDT
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fwiw, the - is pretty common on cattle ranches around me and has nothing to do with horses. My brands are rafter C, rafter C bar, and U bar. I also have 4 other brands on cattle that I have purchased running around. I really need to get out my log book and recall what they are. My neightbor Jim called me this morning, missing a cow. I saw a J - which may or may not be his (looks like it is probably not - I have purchased from them before, just did not think I had any of their cows (about 4 ranches sell at their auction), but I guess I have one.
My branding irons were stolen at some point over the years - wife wants me to replace them, so guess that is on the to do list. Replace and get the vet to nitrogen brand my cows for easier ID (I have angus, nitrogen will leave a white brand on a black cow - damn easy to read). |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 9:58:24 PM EDT
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@AeroE
@GrantS Found an old newspaper clipping that I think describes farms location, is the description here still how I could determine the location via county maps?  |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:04:21 PM EDT
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Those coordinates are still valid and in use today. Many map apps will let you search by range, township, section.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:14:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:15:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those coordinates are still valid and in use today. Many map apps will let you search by range, township, section. I just paid the dues for a brand my grandpa hadn’t kept current. Hit me up OP, I think my mom just bought a new brand book a month ago. Edit: if you call the Department of Ag they may be able to help you too. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/97614/5BD87A29-85EA-4653-B421-E6E1A3FCD872_jpe-2062672.JPG The land described as the eastern half of the square labeled 18 |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:18:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:19:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any particular map product you used to pull that up? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/97614/5BD87A29-85EA-4653-B421-E6E1A3FCD872_jpe-2062672.JPG The land described as the eastern half of the square labeled 18 https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=019dd6f39fda4d3b811abfab0878b63b |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:31:46 PM EDT
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Based on your image and the way that description reads, I'm not sure how much of the right hand side of section 18 that 320 acres would be it is all houses now for the most part.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:33:00 PM EDT
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That half of the section would be 320 acres
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:48:46 PM EDT
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The entire eastern half of 18 is 320 acres. 18 is the section. The section is 640 acres. Therefore as listed in the description, the land described is the eastern half of section 18 which would be 320 acres. It’s the red area that you and I both outlined, you more accurately, on the map. It would appear that they’re already houses being built on the southern part of that half with more houses being built in the middle. I don’t know how old that image is so very possible that the entire thing is house is now, or at least the lower 2/3’s of that 320 acres
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Posted: 8/22/2021 10:55:52 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info and assist.
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Posted: 8/23/2021 6:03:13 PM EDT
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Found it via newspaper clipping of root reason hey left the farm, sad they lost the farm that way, but typical of the times.
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Posted: 8/23/2021 6:27:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to me to be a fairly daunting task to show up with just a name and a general year to find a name on a deed for property. But would be worth a shot just for entertainment value. The Grantor Grantee index is for just this purpose, to reference a deed book/page from a date and the name of the person buying and the person selling a particular property. The historical indexing system for land records in the US is byzantine and convoluted, but it worked in an age with no electronic data retrieval systems. Frankly, I find it amazing that it worked so well. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 10:59:27 PM EDT
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Pretty cool family history, OP.
Good luck in your search for even more. 
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