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Posted: 2/25/2021 7:16:10 PM EDT
"These aren't my pants" are now a legal defense.

Welcome to the clown show
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:20:00 PM EDT
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No one ever knows they have meth in their pocket... The meth fairy puts it there.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:21:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:21:32 PM EDT
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Is that an AR15 in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:22:28 PM EDT
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Holy shit. You haven't posted in 87 months and when you do it's a dupe
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:24:09 PM EDT
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It wasn't my intent to drill that third hole, someone else did and gave it to me.

Who? No idea.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:28:05 PM EDT
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It is a good decision.  

Strict liability possession crimes are ridiculous, and felony strict liability is an anathema to the US Constitution.

When it comes to drug possession crimes, the mens rea is knowingly in forty-eight states.  Well, forty-nine now.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:29:54 PM EDT
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A friend of a friend wigs out and drops his baggie in the back of your pickemup truck.  Then cops bust you and you go to prison for twenty years.  That's just super.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:33:53 PM EDT
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No one ever knows they have meth in their pocket... The meth fairy puts it there.

A friend of a friend wigs out and drops his baggie in the back of your pickemup truck.  Then cops bust you and you go to prison for twenty years.  That's just super.

The ends justify the means doper.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:36:13 PM EDT
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"Libertarians:"

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No one ever knows they have meth in their pocket... The meth fairy puts it there.

A friend of a friend wigs out and drops his baggie in the back of your pickemup truck.  Then cops bust you and you go to prison for twenty years.  That's just super.


Not be "friends" with meth heads?
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:39:20 PM EDT
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Should be no such thing as “felony drug possession” to begin with.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:41:20 PM EDT
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I look at the potential for abuse.  Like possession of kiddie porn. One minute of access to your computer and they can destroy your life, and there is nothing you can do about it.
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No one ever knows they have meth in their pocket... The meth fairy puts it there.

A friend of a friend wigs out and drops his baggie in the back of your pickemup truck.  Then cops bust you and you go to prison for twenty years.  That's just super.


I hate when that happens

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:43:08 PM EDT
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Is this where you tell us because it is about freedom.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:43:19 PM EDT
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you like your hookers with blow, brother?
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:44:01 PM EDT
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Gotta admit, from a constitutional perspective, I don't disagree.

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:45:04 PM EDT
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I swear, our State.

We need to pass a Bill that in order to hold any State, City, County Gov. Office, you need to pass an IQ Test and must be above 135. Beavis and Buttheads everywhere, especially the voters.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:46:21 PM EDT
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Good, Drugs should be legal. The war on drugs has taken more of our freedoms than anything else.
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I swear, our State.

We need to pass a Bill that in order to hold any State, City, County Gov. Office, you need to pass an IQ Test and must be above 135. Beavis and Buttheads everywhere, especially the voters.
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u-haul time, bud.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:47:32 PM EDT
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Yes it is.

You live your life (or overdose and die, as the case may be) as you see fit, just don’t let your actions impede on my ability to live mine.

Added Bonus: Billions saved in the failed war on drugs, abolish a federal agency (DEA), space in overcrowded jails for actual criminals, and Mexican cartels lose incentive to bring their shit across the border.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:48:16 PM EDT
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u-haul time, bud.
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I swear, our State.

We need to pass a Bill that in order to hold any State, City, County Gov. Office, you need to pass an IQ Test and must be above 135. Beavis and Buttheads everywhere, especially the voters.
u-haul time, bud.


I hear ya. Read Idaho (where I would go) was getting Californicated...argh!!!
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:48:48 PM EDT
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Is this where you tell us because it is about freedom.
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Is this where you tell us because it is about freedom.


Yes.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:50:56 PM EDT
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I hear ya. Read Idaho (where I would go) was getting Californicated...argh!!!
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don't move to idaho.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:50:57 PM EDT
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Agreed.

I don't have a problem with locking up criminals who are committing crimes under the influence or stealing stuff to support their habit, but locking someone up just because they have a chemical substance in their possession seems ludicrous to me.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:51:34 PM EDT
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lol
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u-haul time, bud.
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I swear, our State.

We need to pass a Bill that in order to hold any State, City, County Gov. Office, you need to pass an IQ Test and must be above 135. Beavis and Buttheads everywhere, especially the voters.
u-haul time, bud.

Yeah, move to Florida.

It's the only state left that has strict liability drug possession.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:59:25 PM EDT
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Yeah

I'd hate to get jacked up and go to prison for shit a asshole friend ditched on or in my property.  That shit does happen.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 8:00:04 PM EDT
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Good, good thing about criminals is they keep giving you chances to bust them.

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Link Posted: 2/25/2021 8:04:03 PM EDT
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Statists everywhere are shedding a tear.

Good ruling.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 8:05:14 PM EDT
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1. GD: "fucking liberals are letting thugs out of prison who are committing more crime, and not prosecuting criminals! They're destroying our country! Communist scum is causing the decline of western civilization!"

2. {Court issues rulings decriminalizing deviant behavior and restricting police ability to investigate and solve crimes}

3. GD: Hooray! Fewer laws and less police power = freedom! Hooray!

4. {Crime increases and societal decline accelerates}

5. Go to line 1 above
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 8:05:44 PM EDT
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Bingo.

Fuck people who want to use government power to criminalize the ownership of things - whether guns, drugs, books or whatever Big Brother decides you shouldn't be allowed to own.
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Link Posted: 2/25/2021 8:07:03 PM EDT
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Interesting to see the spectrum of response here.
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1. GD: "fucking liberals are letting thugs out of prison who are committing more crime, and not prosecuting criminals! They're destroying our country! Communist scum is causing the decline of western civilization!"

2. {Court issues rulings decriminalizing deviant behavior and restricting police ability to investigate and solve crimes}

3. GD: Hooray! Fewer laws and less police power = freedom! Hooray!

4. {Crime increases and societal decline accelerates}

5. Go to line 1 above
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Committing crimes while on drugs, because you are on drugs, or to get more drugs, are still punishable crimes.

Simply using and/or possessing drugs should not be.

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 10:36:11 PM EDT
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Great minds think alike
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 10:36:38 PM EDT
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I am guessing you don't have a daughter hooked on heroin or have had your house burglarized recently.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 10:40:00 PM EDT
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I don't have friends who have friends who have baggies.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 10:40:41 PM EDT
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Bingo.

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LOL.  Like anything besides drugs ever becomes more free to own.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 10:44:33 PM EDT
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I am loading one of the last loads out today from Wa to ID, we are outpacing the Kali's 4 to 1 in move in ratio currently.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 10:50:28 PM EDT
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There were many times that following an arrest and finding dope in someone's pocket, the arrested person would say something like "What is that, where did that come from?  I don't now whose pants these are, I just put them on after the party last night, it isn't my dope".    

However in all the years of taking people to jail,  I never once heard anyone say anything similar when I pulled a large wad of cash out of their pocket.  The dope was never theirs, but the money was always theirs..funny how that worked.
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I hate to break it to you, but it's getting a lot worse around here too (Idaho).  I'm always looking for an exit...I tend to believe Wyoming is safe because the cold and the wind will keep communists away.  Idaho has become a fucking beacon for commies to flock to.  

It's absolutely terrible.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:03:18 PM EDT
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That you know of.

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:11:22 PM EDT
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I am 100% in favor of anything that minimizes the power of the government to imprison a person for a victimless crime.  

Thought experiment...lets say i go out and buy 100 kilos of coke. I bring it home and put it in a box, and stick it on a shelf.
I am hurting no one.
It is hurting no one.
There are no victims.
Why the hell should that be a crime?
Simpy having physical control of something isnt a threat to anyone. Its not denying anyone else of their ability to enjoy liberty.

The government really ought to stay the fuck out of what happens behind closed doors among consenting adults.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:14:52 PM EDT
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The ends justify the means doper.
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No one ever knows they have meth in their pocket... The meth fairy puts it there.

A friend of a friend wigs out and drops his baggie in the back of your pickemup truck.  Then cops bust you and you go to prison for twenty years.  That's just super.

The ends justify the means doper.


Yes fuck dopers!.

Congrats drug warriors! Your efforts have eviserated the constitution, cause fuck dooe4s!.

Yall are true patriots.lol
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:16:19 PM EDT
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A fuckin'men!
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:19:14 PM EDT
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Bingo.

Fuck people who want to use government power to criminalize the ownership of things - whether guns, drugs, books or whatever Big Brother decides you shouldn’t be allowed to own.
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Bingo.

Fuck people who want to use government power to criminalize the ownership of things - whether guns, drugs, books or whatever Big Brother decides you shouldn’t be allowed to own.


Of course, you do know that this decision is tailored narrowly to apply strictly to drug possession & nothing else, right? This is even stated explicitly in the decision. So, possessing certain classes of icky guns - they're all icky- s still fair game for mala prohibita legislation, as far as this court is concerned.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:20:12 PM EDT
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Bingo.

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This.  I'm fucking sick of the 'I don't like this so it should be illegal' crowd.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:20:45 PM EDT
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Their state, their rules. Can they prohibit Narcan usage while they're at it? That combo might be the magic ticket to clean up Seattle.
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