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Posted: 1/27/2021 7:02:08 PM EDT
The left's answer to ending homelessness has been trying to spend their way out of the problem and letting the homeless take over cities.

What kind of realistic solution would you have to fix homelessness in a city?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:03:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Feed the homeless to the hungry.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:04:18 PM EDT
[#2]
We've created a fucked up society, there will always be people who pass on it for one reason or another.
And we'll never be rid of junkies, humans just don't work that way.

The only legit homeless problem that falls to you to solve is if you find yourself homeless.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:04:41 PM EDT
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The left's answer to ending homelessness has been trying to spend their way out of the problem and letting the homeless take over cities.

What kind of realistic solution would you have to fix homelessness in a city?
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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:04:51 PM EDT
[#4]
My honest reply would violate several CoC provisions.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:05:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Without addressing addiction and mental illness first there is no fix.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:05:39 PM EDT
[#6]
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:05:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Fixing homelessness would have to mean "fixing" mental illness.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:06:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:06:37 PM EDT
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Arm the homeless and bus them to DC?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:06:38 PM EDT
[#10]
I would allow homeless camps, you know? Like gulag.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:06:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:06:52 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:07:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Open up nuthouses
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:07:35 PM EDT
[#14]
open up the asylums to have them committed
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:07:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Nazino Island
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:07:50 PM EDT
[#16]
Reinstate mental hospitals
Arrest vagrants and bums just drunk/high and sleeping on park benches.
Arrest them when they trespass and steal.

This will open up available beds and services for the small minority of truly homeless people who are temporarily down on their luck and need a helping hand to get back on track.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:08:06 PM EDT
[#17]
In a more serious reply, the issue isn't homelessness. The issue is mental health (and to a lesser extent, drug use.  Which is more often than not tied to the mental health issue)

the vast majority of homeless aren't that way because they couldn't pay the rent. They're homeless because they have mental health issues that prevent them from keeping a job or residence. And to deal with the mental health issue they self-medicate.

Figure out a way to force treatment on them and you'll solve a great deal of your homeless problem.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:08:38 PM EDT
[#18]
Bring back asylums. Use to be every town had one. Medication alone has been a failure. I’m not saying the severely mentally ill have to live at the asylum their whole life but inpatient mental health care essentially is non-existent these days. Last I checked Kentucky, with a population of around 4.5 million has less than 1000 public mental health beds.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:08:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Go watch the 2nd Purge OP.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:08:48 PM EDT
[#20]
psychiatric hospitals
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:08:48 PM EDT
[#21]
Legalize bum fighting
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:10:09 PM EDT
[#22]
In LA I'd get an old cruise ship and have them dry out / clean up and learn a trade.
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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:10:21 PM EDT
[#23]
Don't worry OP, we'll all be homeless soon!

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:10:55 PM EDT
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In a more serious reply, the issue isn't homelessness. The issue is mental health (and to a lesser extent, drug use.  Which is more often than not tied to the mental health issue)

the vast majority of homeless aren't that way because they couldn't pay the rent. They're homeless because they have mental health issues that prevent them from keeping a job or residence. And to deal with the mental health issue they self-medicate.

Figure out a way to force treatment on them and you'll solve a great deal of your homeless problem.
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The lefties used the civil rights violations angle to get the mental health facilities shuttered to begin with.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:11:10 PM EDT
[#25]
You can't, the problem lies with American society itself and how fucked up this country is.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:11:12 PM EDT
[#26]
It sure isn't decriminalizing meth!

Bring back sanitariums.

Quit feeding the wildlife.

Quit giving a pass to setting up tent cities.

Let nature sort it out.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:11:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Climate change
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:12:56 PM EDT
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Came to post this.  I first heard it from Ken Hamblin.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:13:38 PM EDT
[#29]
FPNI.

But seriously, I really believe that homelessness in this country is a choice. There are so many different groups, ranging from Christian to super woke, looking to help these people out with temporary housing, assistance, meals, help finding jobs, etc. but the issue is some people just don’t want the help. They want the freedom to continue to lay around and abuse drugs and alcohol and generally do whatever the F they want. So it just is what it is, you can’t even really help them because you can’t rehabilitate someone who doesn’t want help. Some people just want to get wasted until they die. Your choices are pretty much live with it, or lock them up, doesn’t matter how much money you toss at the problem.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:13:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Most homelessness is mental illness or addiction.  Re-open state mental institutions and treatment centers.  Mandatory commitments for being a danger to themselves and others.  This solves 90% of the problem.

For the remaining 10%- Cities get two zones: heavy industrial and everything else.  Allow mixed use commercial, light manufacturing, and residential of all types.  Greatly eliminate building codes and inspections, leave that up to lenders primarily.  Allow very small lots for people who want to start in tiny houses.  Do not allow excessive hookup, improvement, or permit fees.  Begin re-use of abandoned rail rights of ways which have been turned into bike or pedestrian trails, allow private companies to use them for private mass transit.  For example, in WA allow re-development of the old Milwaukee route to create highspeed rail.  Allow public land (such as national forest) to be developed along this route at stops such as Rattlesnake Lake, Snoqualmie Pass, Easton, Cle Elum, Ellensburg and further east.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:14:47 PM EDT
[#31]
This was refreshing after sparing with the libs on Nextdoor over the city buying hotels for the homeless.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/austin-city-council-considers-purchase-of-two-hotels-to-house-homeless/
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:14:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Some of them it is as I have been told by a few, their lifestyle choice.  

If the bleeding hearts would stop giving them money when they beg it would be a start.

The country though has to spend more on mental health for long-term subjects.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:15:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Step One: Outlaw Narcan

Step Two: Free Heroin
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:16:56 PM EDT
[#34]
Work camps like the CCC.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:17:01 PM EDT
[#35]
I just don't go to the city.

It's really that simple.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:17:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Rebuilding a shitload of looney bins would help... as well as solve several other problems.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:19:01 PM EDT
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Reinstate mental hospitals
Arrest vagrants and bums just drunk/high and sleeping on park benches.
Arrest them when they trespass and steal.

This will open up available beds and services for the small minority of truly homeless people who are temporarily down on their luck and need a helping hand to get back on track.
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I'm tempted to say that those "temporarily down on their luck" count for far more than most people would believe.

As for arresting the drunks/druggies: you still have to house them "humanely." A drunk tank isn't a humane way to house them. And the cost of taking them in, processing them, giving them medical attention, then releasing them is already astronomical.

This question (what to do with the homeless) is staggering in its implications. You first must decide who "the homeless" are. Are they the drunks staggering down the street? Or the mom of 2, trying to get into a shelter? Or (as one Arfcommer pointed out) are they the lady in a very nice car, who slept in her car on his cul-de-sac, and evidently got her shower in a local park or somewhat? Every one of them has his own story.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:19:28 PM EDT
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You should see the highway here on the way to Yosemite up in the Sierra mountains. Lots of tents popping up these days now too, they're everywhere shitting in the once pristine rivers and the cops don't do shit except continue on ticketing drivers. They only care about revenue collection.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:20:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Give everyone a house...
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:20:18 PM EDT
[#40]
Buy them all homes. Problem solved. Geez, sometimes you guys make things so complicated.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:20:37 PM EDT
[#41]
UBI
Raise the minimum wage.

Lol
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:20:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Ship them to Mexico
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:20:54 PM EDT
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Step Two: Free Heroin  Fentanyl
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FIFY
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:21:11 PM EDT
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Yes.  The OR decriminalization would make more sense if 1. every publicly paid effort wasn't made to resuscitate abusers, and 2. there was a tax plan on those drugs.  Everything else has a fee, where's the fees for the decriminalized drugs?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:21:57 PM EDT
[#45]
We need lunatic asylums and an easier method of involuntary commitment. But people don't want that, so the lunatics are roaming the streets. And yes, in 2021, not voting for democrats = lunatic.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:22:27 PM EDT
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You should see the highway here on the way to Yosemite up in the Sierra mountains. Lots of tents popping up these days now too, they're everywhere shitting in the once pristine rivers and the cops don't do shit except continue on ticketing drivers. They only care about revenue collection.
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I just don't go to the city.

It's really that simple.


You should see the highway here on the way to Yosemite up in the Sierra mountains. Lots of tents popping up these days now too, they're everywhere shitting in the once pristine rivers and the cops don't do shit except continue on ticketing drivers. They only care about revenue collection.


That's depressing. That's a beautiful wilderness. Surprising homeless would venture far from drugs and food.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:22:34 PM EDT
[#47]
Technically they are 'house-less'. They have made their 'home' where they be.

The solution? Enforce vagrancy laws and send them to the Socialist Democrats houses.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:22:45 PM EDT
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This was refreshing after sparing with the libs on Nextdoor over the city buying hotels for the homeless.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/austin-city-council-considers-purchase-of-two-hotels-to-house-homeless/
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That is a really great deal for the property owner that is surely losing his ass this year.  It’s a terrible deal for the taxpayers who will have to pay to have it torn down after it’s quickly destroyed.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:23:26 PM EDT
[#49]
You will never fix homelessness completely.

One way to help lower homelessness is to get the unemployment rate as low as possible while getting the workforce participation rate as high as possible.

The only way to do this is to stop importing uneducated 3rd worlders, stop unfair trade deals to the US, and eliminate our easily scammed welfare system so able bodied people have to work if they want to eat.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:23:54 PM EDT
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I'm tempted to say that those "temporarily down on their luck" count for far more than most people would believe.

As for arresting the drunks/druggies: you still have to house them "humanely." A drunk tank isn't a humane way to house them. And the cost of taking them in, processing them, giving them medical attention, then releasing them is already astronomical.

This question (what to do with the homeless) is staggering in its implications. You first must decide who "the homeless" are. Are they the drunks staggering down the street? Or the mom of 2, trying to get into a shelter? Or (as one Arfcommer pointed out) are they the lady in a very nice car, who slept in her car on his cul-de-sac, and evidently got her shower in a local park or somewhat? Every one of them has his own story.

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You’re housing them one way or the other.  Better to put most somewhere that they can’t ruin.
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