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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:17:09 PM EDT
Or have I just forgot how horrible the traction has always been. DD has 360 Horsepower and 380 Torque can tow 10,000 pounds, is 2wd and gets stuck if a wet piece of grass is within a 90 miles radius. It's fucking unbelievable, even with 1500 pounds in the bed the traction doesn't get much better. I do keep a 4x4 jeep in the driveway incase it might snow half a inch or something crazy.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:18:24 PM EDT
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Two wheel drive trucks are for women.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:19:16 PM EDT
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My FX4 gets pretty good all around traction in 2wd. What tires do you have?
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:19:46 PM EDT
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I had a Chevy 2wd with a 305 that with a few sand bags in the bed and decent tires would get me around fine in lousy upstate NY winters.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:19:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:22:18 PM EDT
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People used to put mud tires on the back for a reason.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:22:36 PM EDT
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Good tires weight in the bed and a light foot on the throttle sometimes works for snow. Mud is another story add hills and you're screwed
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:22:58 PM EDT
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Get one with a rear locker, not quite as useless.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:24:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:24:25 PM EDT
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All you have to do is turn off the traction control
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:24:28 PM EDT
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A lot more torque in todays trucks, but some of that should also be offset but more weight to on the tires to keep the traction going.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:26:57 PM EDT
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Even my cars are 4WD. You're doin it wrong OP.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:27:47 PM EDT
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I dunno if they're worse. Most of the 70's 2wd trucks my friends and I had in high school had nicknames like 'Ole Slippery.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:27:51 PM EDT
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2WD with an open diff = 1WD delivering power to whichever side has less traction. It’s great for dry pavement but I won’t make the mistake of purchasing another one.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:28:05 PM EDT
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Its because they are light as hell now compared to a couple decades ago
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:28:08 PM EDT
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You would be amazed what a set of snow tires or snow rated ATs would do for traction.
I would never have another 2wd truck again though. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:28:43 PM EDT
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Good tires makes a huge difference.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:28:56 PM EDT
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Even base model pickups have more power than we dreamed of in most instances back in the 60s and 70s. Add some weight to the back and use good tires and even 2wd will do some amazing things. It's the poor workman who blames his tools.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:29:06 PM EDT
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A locker and good tires can solve many problems
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:30:18 PM EDT
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Learn throttle control? What type of tires are you running? My truck makes more power than yours in both hp and tq and when I lived in Colorado it spent most of its time in 2wd. Yes there were times it needed to be in 4wd but that was fairly infrequently even with all the snow.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:32:34 PM EDT
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I have Wildpeaks on my Tacoma and have no issues with 2wd.
Of course I can always pop it into 4 mode because I’m smart enough to know better. 
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:33:37 PM EDT
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Yes because people put 1000 tread wear rating, rock climbing tires on their vehicles. High UTQG means less grip and therefore less ability to gain traction.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:34:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good tires makes a huge difference. Usually this. When I got my truck, it had tires that looked like they belonged on some grandma's Buick. Got stuck in the grass of my own yard. New tires with better suited tread, and I haven't had any issues since. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:34:41 PM EDT
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No they've gotten a lot more power. My 1991 454ss pickup had 255hp and 94 f150 lightning was only rated at 240 hp.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:35:52 PM EDT
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No weight in back, drive wheel in back has never been anything but shit.
ETA: Mentioned light weight and more HP is real too. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even base model pickups have more power than we dreamed of in most instances back in the 60s and 70s. Add some weight to the back and use good tires and even 2wd will do some amazing things. It's the poor workman who blames his tools. Lol.no, I've been off roading for 25 years. I've navigated a rough trail or two. You can add 1500 pounds to the bed and I guarentee I could get further in a 2020 front wheel drive Ford Focus. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:42:05 PM EDT
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Chain 600 lbs of tractor suitcase weights in the back of the bed near the tailgate.
It will solve your problems and improve your ride. I have proof. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:43:05 PM EDT
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lockers are your friend. My first truck was 2wd, but it had a locker so it was true 2wd. Did just fine in snow, rain, and wet grass, everything but mud or a wet hill climb.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:43:16 PM EDT
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2wd rear/no lock is 1wd. Had a 67 Chev that would get stuck on a wet hanky. Buddy had a 72 with posi-track, and could drive across a muddy field.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:43:52 PM EDT
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My Hemi Ram with a limited slip is only "limited" to the tires. It's not as good as the TrueTrac in my Dakota but it's not bad. The traction control killing the engine is the main problem.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:44:11 PM EDT
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Back when they were the only option, people knew how to drive them.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:44:40 PM EDT
[#31]
You need better tires for your driving style, and a lighter foot in wet grass.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:44:46 PM EDT
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Many modern traction control systems were poorly designed.
Some, if any wheel slip is detected hit it activates the ABS (toyota) or kills power to the system (Kia). You'll quickly go nowhere if that's the case. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:45:54 PM EDT
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I have a 99 Chevy with a 4.8 2wd and the thing can’t stay on the road I have good tires and lots of weight ... still sucks .
* in snow |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:47:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its because they are light as hell now compared to a couple decades ago Today’s trucks are 10-15% heavier than their similarly configured counterparts from the mid-90s. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:48:10 PM EDT
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Modern tires are probably better on traction, but are often designed for quieter ride and lower rolling resistance which can make for worse non-dry traction
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:48:27 PM EDT
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Tires, tires, tires.
Crappy nanny traction control. Do you have an open diff? Good tires plus a mild lsd in the rear makes driving when slick easy. I usually turn my traction control off (down) in the winter. Physical lsd mo betta. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:52:00 PM EDT
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Need 4wd around here like you need mud tires.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:55:47 PM EDT
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2WD=1 wheel spinning on a slippery surface.
4WD=2 wheels spinning on a slippery surface. Without some sort of a locker, you are stuck. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:58:12 PM EDT
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My 2500 Yukon XL is RWD. Does just fine in snow and icy conditions. Nitto Duragrappler for tires.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:58:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back when they were the only option, people knew how to drive them. Yep, that's it pops. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:58:40 PM EDT
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Yep. Mine has an aluminum/plastic bed. F-150. When the road is wet at an intersection with the slightest grade, I can sit there and spin for as long as I like. Gotta let it idle from the start.
 I keep at least 100# of clay cat litter at the tail gate. It helps, a little. (Edit for bed material) |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:00:12 AM EDT
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G80 locker laughs in your direction. And 4wd too.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:00:21 AM EDT
[#43]
Get better tires. The ones you have are for low noise on the highway.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:01:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two wheel drive trucks are for women. He’s not wrong |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:05:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: Yep. Mine has a fiberglass bed. F-150. When the road is wet at an intersection with the slightest grade, I can sit there and spin for as long as I like. Gotta let it idle from the start. Towing makes it even worse, because you're pulling 100% of the weight, but only have ~15% of the weight helping you get traction. Trying to get started from a red light, going uphill on wet pavement, towing a few thousand pounds behind the truck... you'll wonder if you're going to have to put it in 4wd to get going or not.  I have ridge grapplers, they're fantastic on everything when it's dry, but once things get wet... it sure seems like they should do better than they do. In the snow, at least, the BFG KO2s do a *lot* better than my ridge grapplers. OP, you needz better tires and 4WD. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:08:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My FX4 gets pretty good all around traction in 2wd. What tires do you have? tires are everything, had a camero that would get stuck on wet grass untill changed the tires. My brother would say I go more places than people with 4x4 could go with my 2 wheel drive truck. Traction and momentum go a long way. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:10:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two wheel drive trucks are for women. I wouldn't let my wife drive a 2wd. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:13:48 AM EDT
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2WD trucks suck in the snow. Why you used to fill the bed with hay bales all winter.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:17:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back when they were the only option, people knew how to drive them. That and they also had a lower center of gravity with the 15" wheels. Just look at how high off the ground a bed/tailgate is now. Hell, a average height man could just reach over the side of the bed and get something. You almost need a stepstool now. My old Dodge was a whole lot more practical size wise than the F150 I have today.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:17:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many modern traction control systems were poorly designed. Some, if any wheel slip is detected hit it activates the ABS (toyota) or kills power to the system (Kia). You'll quickly go nowhere if that's the case. If by "activates the ABS", you mean "applies some braking to the wheel that's slipping" - That's a good thing for traction. Basically, it redistributes torque to the wheel that still has traction. (Gee, what does that sound like?) |
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