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Posted: 1/4/2021 10:46:55 PM EDT
I just wanted to share some info that may be useful.  My wife got me some night vision bino's for Christmas and I have been really impressed with them.  They are from Creative XP, called the Glass Owl Pro.
Look them up, they have good ratings, almost 800 5 star reviews.  I thought they were going to be some cheesy gimmick but wow, these things work great and can be had for $299.
I have used them around my farm and watched cows and coyotes walking thru the pasture at almost 400 yards.  At 200 yards I watched pigs eating the hay right along with the cows.  The clarity was surprising, I could see them clear enough that I saw the spots on the pigs and saw that one sow had big full teats hanging down.
They are certainly worth their price IMO and cheap enough to buy as an extra set if you already have night vision.

https://creative-xp.com/products/creativexp-digital-night-vision-binoculars-for-100-darkness-save-photos-videos-with-audio
 


YouTube review showing it in action

Link Posted: 1/4/2021 10:53:51 PM EDT
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Neat little IR camera. I would be curious if it's always shining the IR illuminator? Also wonder how they compare to sionyx? Thanks for sharing!
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 11:15:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/4/2021 11:20:39 PM EDT
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#SomethingDifferent | Budget Night Vision That Works?! | Nightfox Swift Digital Nightvision Review
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 11:23:01 PM EDT
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No, you can shut the IR off.  It has 3 settings for the IR.
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 11:26:47 PM EDT
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Sub’d.

Always in the market for new toys.
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 11:27:06 PM EDT
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Tag for info.
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 11:45:25 PM EDT
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I want to hunt rats at night with it and a IR lasered air rifle...
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 9:08:46 AM EDT
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shameless bump
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 11:52:37 PM EDT
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I thought this would get more replies...
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 10:40:19 PM EDT
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 I'm kinda interested in them myself.................especially the first ones
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 10:44:53 PM EDT
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 I'm kinda interested in them myself.................especially the first ones


Wrong demographic, everyone around here is rolling in the Lambos with the supermodel wife and are unable to discuss vision of the poors.

I am really curious, I have been watching some of the low light cameras used on drones and they have gotten very, very good at night.
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 10:50:49 PM EDT
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They take SD cards - have you tried taking photos with them?
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 11:02:01 PM EDT
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This is one of the questions I want to know the answer to also.
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 11:28:54 PM EDT
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No I have not but there are YouTube reviews showing it.  I am having too much fun playing with them but will get around to popping a card in and taking pics/video.  
As well as they work, I see no reason the recording portion wouldnt work.
Spotted a skunk across my front yard in pitch black,  Could see it very clearly walking around.
These work better than the shitty NV I had in the Army back in 1986, although thats not saying much.
If I can find a scope that works as well as these budget binos, I would put NV on several rifles.
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 11:35:29 PM EDT
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I just bought a set on Amazon because of this thread. They have a coupon for $22 off...
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 11:37:25 PM EDT
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fwiw, I thought the Sony were currently the leader in the filterless CCD world.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 12:12:16 AM EDT
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I just wanted to share some info that may be useful.  My wife got me some night vision bino's for Christmas and I have been really impressed with them.  They are from Creative XP, called the Glass Owl Pro.
Look them up, they have good ratings, almost 800 5 star reviews.  I thought they were going to be some cheesy gimmick but wow, these things work great and can be had for $299.
I have used them around my farm and watched cows and coyotes walking thru the pasture at almost 400 yards.  At 200 yards I watched pigs eating the hay right along with the cows.  The clarity was surprising, I could see them clear enough that I saw the spots on the pigs and saw that one sow had big full teats hanging down.
They are certainly worth their price IMO and cheap enough to buy as an extra set if you already have night vision.

https://creative-xp.com/products/creativexp-digital-night-vision-binoculars-for-100-darkness-save-photos-videos-with-audio
 
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That video looks pretty good for a digital. IDK if it's worth $300 tho
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 12:18:22 AM EDT
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I’ve got one of the SiOnyx...tagged for interest.
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The one my buddy has isn't bad other than the depth perception issue it gave me.

Using it statically or for recording doing stuff with nods it was pretty nice

Owning the nice stuff comparatively its not awful for a fraction of the price
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 12:27:18 AM EDT
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The one my buddy has isn't bad other than the depth perception issue it gave me.

Using it statically or for recording doing stuff with nods it was pretty nice

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Seems reasonable for taking video. I haven't found any recording solution for the PVS14 that didn't bug the fuck outta me.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 1:36:09 AM EDT
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Thanks OP.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 9:30:49 AM EDT
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Cool.  I need something like this.  

I really enjoy the night vision air rifle rat killing idea too.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 3:36:56 PM EDT
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Which of these is the better of the two? Unfortunately I ain’t rolling in a Lamborghini, and want one until I can save up for a PVS-14 or something similar
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 3:52:51 PM EDT
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sure they look good in the video, but there is a TON of ambient light.  go outside the city and see how it performs when there isn't any moon.

reminds me of the Call of Duty goggles that came with MW2.

i'm not saying they are bad, but just be aware of its (many) limitations.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 4:02:30 PM EDT
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sure they look good in the video, but there is a TON of ambient light.  go outside the city and see how it performs when there isn't any moon.

reminds me of the Call of Duty goggles that came with MW2.

i'm not saying they are bad, but just be aware of its (many) limitations.
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I live on a farm in rural SW OK, there is no ambient light, none.  Like I said, I stood in my back yard and watched the cows walking thru the pasture at about 400 yards, could see them pretty damn good.
The first night I had them outside with my wife, I walked away from her and into some timber and tried to hide behind a tree in total darkness.  She had the binos and just laughed at me, saying she could see me.  I stuck my head out from around the tree and asked her how clear did I appear, she said she could see the white hair in my beard contrasted against the few brown hairs  Damn woman, she didnt have to get that personal.

I am not trying to convince anyone that these are better than some $5K-$10K set of NV, I am just saying that for $300 these work pretty damn well and are cheap enough to not break the bank.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 5:22:27 PM EDT
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sure they look good in the video, but there is a TON of ambient light.  go outside the city and see how it performs when there isn't any moon.

reminds me of the Call of Duty goggles that came with MW2.

i'm not saying they are bad, but just be aware of its (many) limitations.
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In the videos posted they are filming in the country in a dark ass area...or indoors with no light
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 7:28:36 PM EDT
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In the videos posted they are filming in the country in a dark ass area...or indoors with no light
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And yet, not one of the videos posted doesn't have an affiliate link... Hmmm...
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 7:32:15 PM EDT
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ANd in this video... Do you see that shadow from what looks like a wood pile?

And the deer's eyes reflecting the light?

I'm not saying it's no artificial light... But it sure doesn't look like there's no artificial light.

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Link Posted: 1/8/2021 7:32:32 PM EDT
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Wow those look.. really shitty!
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 8:08:54 PM EDT
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sure they look good in the video, but there is a TON of ambient light.  go outside the city and see how it performs when there isn't any moon.

reminds me of the Call of Duty goggles that came with MW2.

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Lol I have those Mod 2 COD goggles

Most assuredly there is a great deal of IR being used in the videos. Same with the Aurora, it looks great with shitloads of IR.

Nothing beats the real deal in the dark.
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Nothing like constructive, well-informed commentary.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 9:00:49 PM EDT
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ANd in this video... Do you see that shadow from what looks like a wood pile?

And the deer's eyes reflecting the light?

I'm not saying it's no artificial light... But it sure doesn't look like there's no artificial light.

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By artificial light are you talking about IR or visible spectrum?
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 9:19:21 PM EDT
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ANd in this video... Do you see that shadow from what looks like a wood pile?

And the deer's eyes reflecting the light?

I'm not saying it's no artificial light... But it sure doesn't look like there's no artificial light.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/307805/Screenshot_from_2021-01-08_18-30-46_png-1770319.JPG

By artificial light are you talking about IR or visible spectrum?


That a ton of IR light.
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That a ton of IR light.
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ANd in this video... Do you see that shadow from what looks like a wood pile?

And the deer's eyes reflecting the light?

I'm not saying it's no artificial light... But it sure doesn't look like there's no artificial light.

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By artificial light are you talking about IR or visible spectrum?


That a ton of IR light.

Um its digital i needs lots of IR

no one is saying it doesn't.
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 12:23:22 AM EDT
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Now the question is which ir laser to use it with
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 1:06:53 AM EDT
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Thanks OP. You mention you’re in SW OK, I’m South-Central. I ordered a pair, going to see how they work scanning for hogs. At least sound pretty handy to have around the house anyway. Regards
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 1:12:26 AM EDT
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*laughs in DTNVG*
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Well sure. Nobody in this thread comparing the two, but why not have both and high-end thermal to go with it
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 1:47:32 AM EDT
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Well sure. Nobody in this thread comparing the two, but why not have both and high-end thermal to go with it
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Well sure. Nobody in this thread comparing the two, but why not have both and high-end thermal to go with it






Thermal is very useful.  


I have a few digital nv units.  They are neat and plenty useful.  But my PVS14 is amazing.

That said.  A DNV setup beats nothing at all.  Just remember that IR illuminator is a nice beacon for me to find with my PVS14.  
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 2:56:28 AM EDT
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I have heard that the NightFox Cape is a good product for the price, don't take it from me though as I have never tried it myself.
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In the videos posted they are filming in the country in a dark ass area...or indoors with no light
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Um its digital i needs lots of IR

no one is saying it doesn't.


I quoted it for you so you can see it.
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 8:47:17 AM EDT
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They make these elk look like a coyote.

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Link Posted: 1/9/2021 8:48:25 AM EDT
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Thanks OP

I'm on a budget, that unfortunately, is getting tighter.

May be able to swing these, at least get in the game.
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 9:01:29 AM EDT
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I own the creative XP binos OP is showing

In low moon darkness, with the IR light provided, you'll get about 200 meters at night out of them.  

Theyre grainy to be expected but pretty clear

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This is me at 100 yards in darkness where you couldn't navigate without a flashlight or nods
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 9:14:56 AM EDT
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I went with the SiOnyx camera. Digital night vision will eventually pass analog but it’s not there yet.
The nice part about the SiOnyx is you can helmet mount it pretty easily since it will take many of the mounts for night vision proper.

You need a little ambient light or IR for a close to gen 3 experience so not ideal for true operators but otherwise it’s great. I’m in the suburbs and not Iraq so I’ll take it
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I just got this exact unit under another brand for $130.  Checkout out 704 Tactical on YT, he did a review and may still have a discount code.
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 10:35:04 AM EDT
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It is common to feel the need to justify spending large amounts of money.

A guy who bought a JPE rifle will tell you your PSA is garbage and useless.

Someone with 10k dollars in nvg can't recognize that for 300 bucks,  a casual user can have something that does enough for them.

I'm told over and over I need a Mazak 250k machining center when  a 25k dollar Tormach does what I need.

I dont need an F350 to pull my John boat.

I have a decent pvs7. I'd buy a 14 when I see the right deal. I will also look into the OPs suggestion and may get one of those or similar, too.
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no one is saying it doesn't.


I quoted it for you so you can see it.

Burn was obviously talking about ambient light in the first post.

If you're looking for pigs, they dont have passive  nods to take counted measures.

If you're hunting animals who might also have wizard eyes, yes...spend the money on the real deal. Anybody in such a venture would already know and understand that difference.
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Burn was obviously talking about ambient light in the first post.

If you're looking for pigs, they dont have passive  nods to take counted measures.

If you're hunting animals who might also have wizard eyes, yes...spend the money on the real deal. Anybody in such a venture would already know and understand that difference.
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Especially animals with wizard eyes and are capable of shooting back.
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Burn was obviously talking about ambient light in the first post.

If you're looking for pigs, they dont have passive  nods to take counted measures.

If you're hunting animals who might also have wizard eyes, yes...spend the money on the real deal. Anybody in such a venture would already know and understand that difference.

Especially animals with wizard eyes and are capable of shooting back.

It would be funny, if things actually go to shit and there's a bunch of people with IR illum devices showing everybody else with the same stuff, where they are.
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