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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:16:00 PM EDT
I am assuming that only 100 are qualified to win this every year?
If so, how tough was the competition? 
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:19:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: I am assuming that only 100 are qualified to win this every year? If so, how tough was the competition? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0642/7853/products/presidents_hundred_class_a_tab_69527_grande.jpeg?v=1411160908W |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:19:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: I am assuming that only 100 are qualified to win this every year? If so, how tough was the competition? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0642/7853/products/presidents_hundred_class_a_tab_69527_grande.jpeg?v=1411160908 I've been wanting to go for the "governor's 40" ( I'm natguard)....if that goes well I'll move on to the 100. Not sure how it works. Was supposed to go to small arms instructors course a year or so ago and orders got cancelled |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:21:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Twitchy: Win? Win/earn/wear...You know what I mean. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:24:11 PM EDT
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Less than 100 per year are awarded the tab. A lot of the top 100 are previous awardees, and I believe a portion are civilians as well. Not sure if they count to the 100 too.
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:26:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugger_ag: Less than 100 per year are awarded the tab. A lot of the top 100 are previous awardees, and I believe a portion are civilians as well. Not sure if they count to the 100 too. I would imagine they are quite uncommon then on US Army uniforms in the wild. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:27:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: I am assuming that only 100 are qualified to win this every year? If so, how tough was the competition? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0642/7853/products/presidents_hundred_class_a_tab_69527_grande.jpeg?v=1411160908 I know at least one member has. I'm pretty sure he actually won too. But he likely isn't in GD. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:29:50 PM EDT
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I got close in 2003... missed by 2 points.
We have several P100 guys here. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:30:43 PM EDT
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We have at least 3 members here. Hold on...
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:31:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aq_1980: I know at least one member has. I'm pretty sure he actually won too. But he likely isn't in GD. I wiki'd it and it looks like all branches can wear it but no mention of USMC being included? |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:31:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:32:54 PM EDT
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The guy we had as our instructor for SAFES at Perry, a few years back, had one.
Dude knew his shit. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:33:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: I wiki'd it and it looks like all branches can wear it but no mention of USMC being included? The guy I'm referring to was AMU. Marines can't wear it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:34:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aq_1980: The guy I'm referring to was AMU. Marines can't wear it. I wonder why that is? It said USN can wear it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:35:35 PM EDT
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@airsix
@sgthoskins |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:37:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: I wonder why that is? It said USN can wear it. It took an epic amount of pressure to get name tags on the Marine utilities. Not many "other" awards are allowed. And that is a civilian organization awarding it. Granted, that may have changed. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:37:37 PM EDT
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The president’s 100 match is open to anyone who wants to enter, and is generally 1000+ shooters. Course of fire is 10 shots standing Slow fire (10 minutes) at 200 yards, 10 shots prone rapid fire (10 shots in 70 seconds including a magazine change), and 10 shots prone slow fire at 600 yards. Top 100 scores get the award.
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:39:50 PM EDT
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Didn't know this existed. Glad I do now.
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:41:58 PM EDT
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When I did it, there were more like 2K shooters (2006), CMP week is a great time but I would not have been in the President's 1000. OH in Aug is about 100F and humid as hell
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:42:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erud: The president’s 100 match is open to anyone who wants to enter, and is generally 1000+ shooters. Course of fire is 10 shots standing Slow fire (10 minutes) at 200 yards, 10 shots prone rapid fire (10 shots in 70 seconds including a magazine change), and 10 shots prone slow fire at 600 yards. Top 100 scores get the award. OK, so let's say you are US Army and wish to attend, do you just apply or are there pre-qualifying events to weed out people that have no business there? |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:42:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Didn't know this existed. Glad I do now. What's really cool is that both military and civilians shoot at the same time. I think it's awesome military guys get that patch to wear on their uniform. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Didn't know this existed. Glad I do now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Didn't know this existed. Glad I do now. Yeah, and here's the odd part.. The tab is the highest in order of precedence on the uniform, above Ranger tab, SF tab and Sapper tab. The President's Hundred Tab is one of four permanent individual skill/marksmanship tabs (as compared to a badge) authorized for wear by the U.S. Army. In order of precedence on the uniform, they are the President's Hundred Tab, the Special Forces Tab, the Ranger Tab, and the Sapper Tab. Only three may be worn at one time.[2] |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:46:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: What's really cool is that both military and civilians shoot at the same time. I think it's awesome military guys get that patch to wear on their uniform. I think so too...I would have been all over that if I served. It can't be an easy award. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: I think so too...I would have been all over that if I served. It can't be an easy award. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: What's really cool is that both military and civilians shoot at the same time. I think it's awesome military guys get that patch to wear on their uniform. I think so too...I would have been all over that if I served. It can't be an easy award. No, not at all. When you're that good it's basically X Rings vs 10 rings, and sometimes it's really close. Two years ago a guy shot it clean (All Xs) which had never been done before. https://thecmp.org/green-marks-perfect-score-during-2018-national-trophy-rifle-presidents-100-event/ |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:51:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Yeah, and here's the odd part.. The tab is the highest in order of precedence on the uniform, above Ranger tab, SF tab and Sapper tab. That's the old 670-1. The new regulation has the P100 tab treated as a separate category so it will fall below those in precedence. Oh for those who asked about screening, anyone can register and compete, civilian, military, etc. If you want to get paid to go on a service team, that's a different story. I first earned mine in 1990 as a civilian, and then later in the military. Outside of the AMU it's not an award you see very often, although I get more questions about my Ram's Head than the tab on my uniform by far lol. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XxSLASHERxX: I got close in 2003... missed by 2 points. We have several P100 guys here. Damn..., now I don't feel so bad about once missing it by 5 points. Rapid prone got me. 2 X, then the reload followed by a super nice and tight High Master group of 8 - - - all in the 9 Ring. 
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:55:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: OK, so let's say you are US Army and wish to attend, do you just apply or are there pre-qualifying events to weed out people that have no business there? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Originally Posted By erud: The president’s 100 match is open to anyone who wants to enter, and is generally 1000+ shooters. Course of fire is 10 shots standing Slow fire (10 minutes) at 200 yards, 10 shots prone rapid fire (10 shots in 70 seconds including a magazine change), and 10 shots prone slow fire at 600 yards. Top 100 scores get the award. OK, so let's say you are US Army and wish to attend, do you just apply or are there pre-qualifying events to weed out people that have no business there? Nope, just send in your entry. No one has to qualify, military or civilian. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:57:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheFaz: That's the old 670-1. The new regulation has the P100 tab treated as a separate category so it will fall below those in precedence. Oh for those who asked about screening, anyone can register and compete, civilian, military, etc. If you want to get paid to go on a service team, that's a different story. I first earned mine in 1990 as a civilian, and then later in the military. Outside of the AMU it's not an award you see very often, although I get more questions about my Ram's Head than the tab on my uniform by far lol. Interesting...If you had earned the award previous to your service, would the tab be worn retroactively? In other words, you earned yours in 1990 and say you enlisted in 1992, would you already be allowed to wear the tab since you had earned it already if you provided documentation as such? |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:59:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Interesting...If you had earned the award previous to your service, would the tab be worn retroactively? In other words, you earned yours in 1990 and say you enlisted in 1992, would you already be allowed to wear the tab since you had earned it already if you provided documentation as such? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Originally Posted By TheFaz: That's the old 670-1. The new regulation has the P100 tab treated as a separate category so it will fall below those in precedence. Oh for those who asked about screening, anyone can register and compete, civilian, military, etc. If you want to get paid to go on a service team, that's a different story. I first earned mine in 1990 as a civilian, and then later in the military. Outside of the AMU it's not an award you see very often, although I get more questions about my Ram's Head than the tab on my uniform by far lol. Interesting...If you had earned the award previous to your service, would the tab be worn retroactively? In other words, you earned yours in 1990 and say you enlisted in 1992, would you already be allowed to wear the tab since you had earned it already if you provided documentation as such? Do you get to wear the tab indefinitely, or only for the year you earned it? |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:59:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: I think so too...I would have been all over that if I served. It can't be an easy award. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: What's really cool is that both military and civilians shoot at the same time. I think it's awesome military guys get that patch to wear on their uniform. I think so too...I would have been all over that if I served. It can't be an easy award. It is about 80% civilian, Camp Perry is an interesting place. It was a German POW camp I believe, the little cinderblock buildings that use to house them are turned into "Vendor's Row" so its a good week to go shopping as well. It is a demanding hobby, about 3 years into shooting National Match my GF at the time staged an intervention for me to try to convince me to stop, I was spending more time shooting, reloading, and traveling every weekend to matches than I was spending at work. I moved out shortly after. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Do you get to wear the tab indefinitely, or only for the year you earned it? Once earned one time, it is a permanent award that you will wear your entire career. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: No, not at all. When you're that good it's basically X Rings vs 10 rings, and sometimes it's really close. Two years ago a guy shot it clean (All Xs) which had never been done before. https://thecmp.org/green-marks-perfect-score-during-2018-national-trophy-rifle-presidents-100-event/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Sevensteps: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: What's really cool is that both military and civilians shoot at the same time. I think it's awesome military guys get that patch to wear on their uniform. I think so too...I would have been all over that if I served. It can't be an easy award. No, not at all. When you're that good it's basically X Rings vs 10 rings, and sometimes it's really close. Two years ago a guy shot it clean (All Xs) which had never been done before. https://thecmp.org/green-marks-perfect-score-during-2018-national-trophy-rifle-presidents-100-event/ Green is a machine. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:04:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Once earned one time, it is a permanent award that you will wear your entire career. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevensteps: Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Do you get to wear the tab indefinitely, or only for the year you earned it? Once earned one time, it is a permanent award that you will wear your entire career. Right on. I'm glad such a contest and award exists. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:05:14 PM EDT
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104th... by one x. Xs matter.
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:07:17 PM EDT
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I go up to camp perry yearly.
It’s incredible to watch some of these people shoot. The amount of “good” shooters there are in the US is incredible. And I am not one of them. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:07:45 PM EDT
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Every patriotic American should make the Camp Perry pilgrimage, and participate in the National Trophy Matches where you will walk in the Valley of Kings following the footsteps of some of the greatest patriot riflemen in history.
You don’t have to win for it to be a priceless experience. If you have a desire, but are hesitant because you fear you won’t measure up, don’t worry about it. I will give you my formula. If you’re willing to do the work I guarantee results you can be proud of. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:09:42 PM EDT
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I doubt I was ever good enough, never made the effort to compete. No way I could come close now, nothing more depressing for a shooter than to lose ones ability to clearly focus on that front site.
As mentioned, we have multiple members here who have it, at least one with it in his avatar. Decades ago, I earned the "Governor's 12" in the Missouri National Guard, but that is significantly easier to pull off. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:11:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Win? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am assuming that only 100 are qualified to win this every year? If so, how tough was the competition? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0642/7853/products/presidents_hundred_class_a_tab_69527_grande.jpeg?v=1411160908W In this case yes, "win" is also correct very impressive accomplishment |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: I doubt I was ever good enough, never made the effort to compete. No way I could come close now, nothing more depressing for a shooter than to lose ones ability to clearly focus on that front site. As mentioned, we have multiple members here who have it, at least one with it in his avatar. Decades ago, I earned the "Governor's 12" in the Missouri National Guard, but that is significantly easier to pull off. In all fairness to you though, you already have "The Arfcom 100" four star tab. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: No, not at all. When you're that good it's basically X Rings vs 10 rings, and sometimes it's really close. Two years ago a guy shot it clean (All Xs) which had never been done before. https://thecmp.org/green-marks-perfect-score-during-2018-national-trophy-rifle-presidents-100-event/ Clean, yes. All Xs, no. 400-20x Three times there have been 300’s shot before the shoot off, Ty Cooper AMU and Jared Perry civ, both did it the same year. And of course Brandon Green AMU as mentioned above. For others that don’t know The shoot off is the top 20 finishers after 30 shots, brought back to the 600 yard line, with 50 seconds exposure of the target each time for an additional 10 rounds. And there are never any sighters. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: I doubt I was ever good enough, never made the effort to compete. No way I could come close now, nothing more depressing for a shooter than to lose ones ability to clearly focus on that front site. As mentioned, we have multiple members here who have it, at least one with it in his avatar. Decades ago, I earned the "Governor's 12" in the Missouri National Guard, but that is significantly easier to pull off. Great news! You can use a scope now!  And yes, regional championships aren't that difficult. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:17:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheFaz: That's the old 670-1. The new regulation has the P100 tab treated as a separate category so it will fall below those in precedence. Oh for those who asked about screening, anyone can register and compete, civilian, military, etc. If you want to get paid to go on a service team, that's a different story. I first earned mine in 1990 as a civilian, and then later in the military. Outside of the AMU it's not an award you see very often, although I get more questions about my Ram's Head than the tab on my uniform by far lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheFaz: Originally Posted By Sevensteps: Yeah, and here's the odd part.. The tab is the highest in order of precedence on the uniform, above Ranger tab, SF tab and Sapper tab. That's the old 670-1. The new regulation has the P100 tab treated as a separate category so it will fall below those in precedence. Oh for those who asked about screening, anyone can register and compete, civilian, military, etc. If you want to get paid to go on a service team, that's a different story. I first earned mine in 1990 as a civilian, and then later in the military. Outside of the AMU it's not an award you see very often, although I get more questions about my Ram's Head than the tab on my uniform by far lol. Did the Army finally make that official vs the NG? I did both summer and winter for it in the early 90s but never could wear it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:19:29 PM EDT
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IIRC, theres a pistol course and a rifle course., top 100 from each.
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:23:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @airsix @sgthoskins Is Strom on here? Hooks unfortunately passed. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:26:23 PM EDT
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I believe @sgthoskins has.
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:26:25 PM EDT
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I’ve made the President’s Match at the NPSC a couple of times. (See Avatar)
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:29:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheFaz: That's the old 670-1. The new regulation has the P100 tab treated as a separate category so it will fall below those in precedence. Oh for those who asked about screening, anyone can register and compete, civilian, military, etc. If you want to get paid to go on a service team, that's a different story. I first earned mine in 1990 as a civilian, and then later in the military. Outside of the AMU it's not an award you see very often, although I get more questions about my Ram's Head than the tab on my uniform by far lol. Is your name Mark? And yeah, the rams head confuses people. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:31:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ramairthree: Did the Army finally make that official vs the NG? I did both summer and winter for it in the early 90s but never could wear it. Ram's Head is still a NG only award, and your state has to authorize it. Thus why you don't see it very often. I've had people ask me about whether you have to earn the President's Hundred every year as some seem to think you should. My current reply is to ask whether they think you should have to go back to Ranger school every year to keep that tab..that usually ends it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:33:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Is your name Mark? And yeah, the rams head confuses people. Yep Joe it's me, I just never post. Hope your enjoying sunny California, it snowed here yesterday! |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:35:54 PM EDT
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OP I have never met anyone who has earned that tab. & I've known Army snipers & AMU,I've been to many state championships.
you should ask again in the competition forum. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheFaz: I've had people ask me about whether you have to earn the President's Hundred every year as some seem to think you should. My current reply is to ask whether they think you should have to go back to Ranger school every year to keep that tab..that usually ends it.  Perfect response! |
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